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Caravan Owners; their care and maintenance...

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Rod Out Back - 09 Jul 2006 03:24 GMT
Folks,

Drove back from Rockhampton to home (near Longreach) yesterday, which
was about 7 hours of driving.  Pretty easy trip, in consideration.

Lots of caravans on the road, which is great when they know how to
drive them properly.   However, I had a frustrating little episode
yesterday arvo, and I thought gleefully of having fisticuffs with the
gent driving his way around Australia in his new Prado...

I was half-way between Jericho and Barcaldine, which is mostly VERY
open, wide & straight 2-lane highway.  Traffic coming the other was
very light.  I came up behind a 4.7m wide-load (there are a LOT of
them on the road at present), with pilot vehicles in front and behind.
By the time I arrived, the rear pilot vehicle was being followed by a
new Prado towing a caravan, and a little minivan like a small Hi-ace.
I am listening to the truck talking to the pilot vehicles on UHF
channel 40, and they are discussing how to get us around.  They had to
wait about 5 minutes till they cleared an upcoming floodway, and so I
was content to wait.  However, I did note that the Caravan was getting
a bit fidgetty with the delay. The truck was doing about 80kph.

Finally, the lead pilot vehicle(about 1.5kms in front) confers with
the truck, and they announce they are ready to let us through.  The
truck pulls over as far as it can to the left, and the rear pilot
vehicle indicates, and starts waving for us to go around. We can see
the road in front is clear for some kms, so it looks good to go. The
Prado/caravan  takes off like a startled rabbit, and gets up alongside
the rear of the truck, and then stays there! I suspect the driver
doesnt know how wide his van is, and thinks he will scrape it up the
side of the truck. The little minivan decides to stay out of it, and
so I start to follow the van.  The rear pilot vehicle is getting a bit
stressed about the delay, and both of us started getting showered with
gravel from the caravan... The caravan has started to get a bit
wobbly, which adds to the gravel being thrown up.

The prado finally inches forward at a snails pace, and takes some
minutes to pass the truck.  The comment is made on the UHF; "Ya gotta
love that caravan driver..". With much relief, I eventually pass the
truck, and get in behind the caravan in front.  I thank the truck
driver over the UHF, who says "No worries".

I come up behind the caravan to overtake him, and the gent has decided
to forget he's towing a van. He now has about 18 inches out in the
opposing lane. By this stage, I would REALLY like to be far, far away
from this gent, as I suspect the god of traffic accidents is hovering
over his right shoulder at present... I take a line just in-board of
the opposing guide-posts, check for no coming traffic, and put the
foot down.  As I overtake the Prado, I find the driver is yelling at
me.  From the 2-way radio, the comment is again made; " Ya just gotta
love that caravan driver"...

I get out of there(turbodiesel goes brroomm good), and come up behind
the lead Pilot vehicle.  Once it is clear to do so, he calls me to say
I can overtake.  I thanked him for his help, and I get the "No worries
mate" in reply. I then overtake and put the foot down to start putting
some distance between us.

Now, I know that I made the mistake of following the caravan in
overtaking the truck, but I did so because the rear pilot vehicle was
telling all 3 of us to do so(and the road was clear for a goodly
distance).  However, I kept thinking about the things the
Prado/caravan didnt do very well in the circumstances:

1).  He should have a UHF 2-way radio, and he should listen to it!  I
didnt see an antenna on the new Prado, which makes me wonder what
preparations he made to do the big trip... He certainly didnt show any
signs of hearing the truck talking to the pilot vehicles.

2).  He dithered when overtaking.  If he's driving a caravan without
knowing it's dimensions, he needs a good kicking.  Dithering when
overtaking is when things rapidly go pear-shaped for everyone.  Of all
the times to be decisive on the road, this would have to be one of the
most important. If he doesnt think it'll work, get out of there. Pull
up under a tree and have a cuppa. Give the truck an hours head-start,
and it will be quite a while before they encounter it again.
Again, he would have had a much easier time if he was able to talk to
the truck via UHF.

3).  Even when flustered, you still need to drive the bloody vehicle!
He forgot the van overhangs the lane if you drive near the centreline.
I live in the hope he isnt an airline pilot in his real job...

4). The trials and tribulations of driving a caravan isnt anyone
else's fault. Indeed, it is pretty darn difficult for other people to
negotiate a caravan if the driver isnt considering other people. There
are many, many caravan drivers who DO think about others, and they are
easy to negotiate past without any hassles. This gent wasnt one of
them.

   

All right; rant over.  Maybe I'm getting old & picky, but this annoyed
the crap out of me.  Apparently, it also annoyed the crap out of the
Prado driver as well...

P.S.  Hopping into my car in Rockhampton on Thursday, a Hi-ace van
pulls up beside me and the teenage passenger asks me if I want to buy
a stereo for my home?  I declined with a smile, and they speed off to
find someone who DOES want to spend a load of cash on a home theatre
that most likely has a 10/10 warranty (10 minutes or 10kms; whichever
comes first).
Apparently, they were working Rocky a month or so ago, and originate
from the Gold Coast. Police raided them last time, and found that
about half the vans contents were hot.
...I have to wonder why someone thinks this is a viable money-earner.
Surely, it would be more cost-effective to sell this gear in other
ways that dont cost heaps of money in fuel!

 

Cheers,

Rod.....Out Back
D Walford - 09 Jul 2006 07:29 GMT
> Folks,
>
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> yesterday arvo, and I thought gleefully of having fisticuffs with the
> gent driving his way around Australia in his new Prado...

snipped........

Guess this a good time to warn you that my 78 yr old mother is heading
your way (Rocky for a while then to Anakie) towing her caravan:-)
Unlike you friend in the Prado she is very experienced towing the van
and has been up your way many many times.
I think this will be her last trip, she finally agrees she's getting too
old for such things:-)

Daryl
Barnsey - 09 Jul 2006 22:23 GMT
Rod, I had a similar experience in the Gulf a few weeks ago.

Between the Lynnd and Einasleigh is 70 Ks of VERY wide dirt road, but very
dusty and rough in some places.

About 30-40 Ks up the road near Carpentaria Downs Station, I caught up with
a caravan. No matter what I did, I couldn't get passed. I was bloody
furious. I had images of an altercation when I arrived at Einasleigh  I
tried the UHF, flashing my lights, blowing the horn, etc. The caravan was
doing speeds between 40 and 70 kph.  The road was wide enough to overtake,
if the van moved over and gave me a clear view (out of the dust)

I finally got passed about 15ks from Einasleigh. It turned out to be a woman
driving a Ford Exploder, with 3 kids jumping around in the back. She didn't
stop at Einasleigh and kept going towards Forsyth. It turned my 4 hour drive
into a 5 hour drive. Not happy.

I'm not sure if this was a case of pure bad manners or just pure ignorance.
I don't think she had any idea I was behind her. Either way, it's an example
of the sort of driving that causes accidents in the outback. Someone with
less patience would have overtaken her blinded by the dust, and hoped there
were no cars / trucks coming the other way.

So I agree with you with your advice to caravan owners. Get a UHF fitted if
you're travelling up this way, and be aware of road conditions, and
considerate to other drivers.

And if you're towing a van on a single lane road, such as the Gregory
Development Rd between Charters Towers and Mt Surprise, yes, you have to
move over to the gravel AS WELL for on coming traffic!!

Ah the granny season! Love it.
Tony Smith - 10 Jul 2006 02:34 GMT
> Rod, I had a similar experience in the Gulf a few weeks ago.

[weapon of mass snippage deployed]

> Ah the granny season! Love it.

But at least with you proceeding at reduced pace Barnsey, the local cow
population is safe from impact damage
Barnsey - 13 Jul 2006 18:16 GMT
>> Rod, I had a similar experience in the Gulf a few weeks ago.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> But at least with you proceeding at reduced pace Barnsey, the local cow
> population is safe from impact damage

I've modified my behaviour on outback trips to the Gulf since the "cow
incident"

As a joke, I used to hurl abuse at wandering stock on roads, when I had to
slow up and wait for the dumb creatures to realise that, out of the tens of
thousand of acres they had to wander about in, they decide to stand in the
middle of the only road within a 1,000K radius..

I don't believe in karma or any of that spooky sh.t, but these days, I wave
respectfully to them.

It's a plot.

The cows have psychic UHFs.

If I verbally abuse a cow at Einasleigh, there'll be a cow informed of my
bad manners 200ks south that will avenge the dishonour to the bovine
species.

They are willing to die for their honour. .

So now I just wave respectfully.

G'day cows!

No cows have harmed the Patrol since I adopted this attitude.
K00k Wrangler - 14 Jul 2006 01:26 GMT
> It's a plot.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> No cows have harmed the Patrol since I adopted this attitude.

Here's a prezzie for ya Barnsey:-

http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=7dc7cc3f-0070-4f19-a8c9
-cf57a63d01e1

Enjoy
K00k Wrangler - 14 Jul 2006 02:38 GMT
Barnsey (And anyone else interested) I stuffed the url.

Try this one:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F4A038B8762A3
C06
K00k Wrangler - 14 Jul 2006 02:39 GMT
> Barnsey (And anyone else interested) I stuffed the url.
>
> Try this one:
>
> http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F4A038B8762
> A3 C06

Bugger it!

Try this one

http://tinyurl.com/rqroh
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 14 Jul 2006 02:59 GMT
rooooted

> Bugger it!
>
> Try this one
>
> http://tinyurl.com/rqroh
Barnsey - 14 Jul 2006 04:01 GMT
> rooooted
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/rqroh

Dr Demento song..........cows with guns.

Think I've got that downloaded somewhere.
Garry Beattie - 14 Jul 2006 10:23 GMT
> Dr Demento song..........cows with guns.
>
> Think I've got that downloaded somewhere.

I also have it on file if anyone wants it emailed to them.
5meg in size.

Garry
Viviane - 10 Jul 2006 11:36 GMT
It's not just the outback.  Have you driven between Sydney & Bris on the
Pacific Goat track (sorry Highway) recently?  All those windy one lane each
way bits stuck behind caravans which then accelerate as soon as an
overtaking lane appears!  Just as infuriating as indicators in the city that
only work for right hand turns when the lights change and you're behind
them.

> Rod, I had a similar experience in the Gulf a few weeks ago.
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Ah the granny season! Love it.
The k00k Wrangler - 10 Jul 2006 13:32 GMT
> It's not just the outback.  Have you driven between Sydney & Bris on
> the Pacific Goat track (sorry Highway) recently?  All those windy one
> lane each way bits stuck behind caravans which then accelerate as
> soon as an overtaking lane appears!  Just as infuriating as
> indicators in the city that only work for right hand turns when the
> lights change and you're behind them.

I sincerely hope there is an extra warm corner of hell reserved for
those that speed up when the first passing lane or first opportunity to
pass appears.
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 11 Jul 2006 02:19 GMT
this goes without sayin my friend

> I sincerely hope there is an extra warm corner of hell reserved for
> those that speed up when the first passing lane or first opportunity to
> pass appears.
Viviane - 10 Jul 2006 11:36 GMT
What's the latest on the tree of knowledge at Barcaldine?

> Folks,
>
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>
> Rod.....Out Back
Rod Out Back - 10 Jul 2006 13:53 GMT
>What's the latest on the tree of knowledge at Barcaldine?
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Drove back from Rockhampton to home (near Longreach) yesterday, which
>> was about 7 hours of driving.  Pretty easy trip, in consideration.

The latest I read (in the local paper a few weeks ago) was that it
seems about 30 litres of raw Glysophate (Roundup) had been poured
around the base of the tree.  Predictions are that the tree is
definately going to die. They have tried to remove the contaminated
soil, but it was 2-3 weeks before the damage was noticed, so a fair
amount of it has probably been ingested into the tree. Regular
watering probably sped the process up.

I understand there are a number of successfull grafts from the tree
over the past 2-3 years, so they might have the option to grow one of
these as a replacement.

I read in the same paper that they dont actually know if this IS the
correct tree, but I suppose it symbolizes all they need in the tree
anyway.  

A pretty sad act, really.

Cheers,

Rod.....Out Back
Kev - 10 Jul 2006 21:35 GMT
>>What's the latest on the tree of knowledge at Barcaldine?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Rod.....Out Back

Arseholes

when we visited the Atherton Tablelands in 1980 some braindead fuckwits
had tried to burn down the "Curtain Fig", almost 1/4 of it was destroyed
before someone got to it and put the fire out

Kev
K00k Wrangler - 10 Jul 2006 23:08 GMT
> Arseholes
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kev

Agreed, but the poisoning of the "Tree of Knowledge" was most likely a
politically motivated act and not mere fuckwittedry.
Rod Out Back - 12 Jul 2006 03:52 GMT
>> Arseholes
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Agreed, but the poisoning of the "Tree of Knowledge" was most likely a
>politically motivated act and not mere fuckwittedry.

I dont think it's necessarrily AS political as you might think.  I
know there has been some friction with the amount of funding spent on
the Tree over the past 20 years, and that might have gotten some
locals off-side. I know there was a lot of bias in favour of promoting
the tree about 10-15 years ago, and it seems to have continued.  

The local union rep has made some announcements that it was a direct
attack on the Labour party, but there are possibly other explanations.
I cannot see any political party faithfull being stupid enough to
ignore the positive effect the tree has on the local tourist trade.
That ignorance makes it more the act of someone stupid enough to think
he's doing something smart. In my opinion, that puts him in the same
braindead fuckwit brigade that burned the Curtain Fig, and also burned
the tree south of Mt isa last year(cant remember the significance),
and damaged/destroyed the DIG tree on Cooper Creek.  

You never know; there might even be a club of people scoring points
for defacing national icons....      

Cheers,

Rod.....Out Back
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 11 Jul 2006 02:25 GMT
you called signor
:)

> Arseholes
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Kev
Perusal - 11 Jul 2006 10:34 GMT
> The latest I read (in the local paper a few weeks ago) was that it
> seems about 30 litres of raw Glysophate (Roundup) had been poured
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> A pretty sad act, really.

That's a real act of bastardry!  Are they seriously looking for those
responsible?

Perusal

> Cheers,
>
> Rod.....Out Back
Rod Out Back - 12 Jul 2006 03:40 GMT
>> The latest I read (in the local paper a few weeks ago) was that it
>> seems about 30 litres of raw Glysophate (Roundup) had been poured
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>
>> Rod.....Out Back

I think they are, but the trail would've been 3 weeks old by the time
they discovered it...

However, not that many people drive around with 30-odd litres of raw
glysophate in their vehicle when travelling, which might make it
easier to narrow the field of usual suspects.

Cheers,

Rod.....Out Back
 
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