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Garry Beattie - 16 Aug 2006 01:29 GMT
Hi Guys.

Now that they have just announced the new Gas subsidy I decided to go have
another look around for a 100 series Toyota Land Cruiser, this time though I
am looking at petrol models and convert it over to gas.

They certainly have dropped in price from a couple of months ago so now may
be a good time to buy.

I have found two locally that I like but I still think they may be a little
overpriced for what they are.

Any comments re pros or cons about the following.

1998 GXV V8 Petrol. 150k good condition, bull bar, side steps, towbar etc.
$29,000

2000 GXL 6Cyl Petrol. 134k Excellent condition. side steps and towbar but no
bull bar. $27,000

The 2000 model is very nice but I like the interior of the 1998 model. It
has a few extra's.

The V8 does worry me though. Anyone know what the consumption figures are
for either? I know the TD model gets around 9L per 100kms but they are
almost impossible to find.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Best regards

Garry
smack - 16 Aug 2006 04:53 GMT
You can have my 80 series for $14k

> Hi Guys.
>
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>
> Garry
smack - 16 Aug 2006 04:53 GMT
http://www.tassiecars.com.au/srchres.jsp?dlr=-1&veh=3&make=76&model=32&minpr=125
00&maxpr=-1&x=65&y=15


Tis the one in Sandford

> You can have my 80 series for $14k
>
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>>
>> Garry
smack - 16 Aug 2006 04:59 GMT
or
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/TOYOTA/LANDCRUISER/Tasmania/1957472.aspx

> http://www.tassiecars.com.au/srchres.jsp?dlr=-1&veh=3&make=76&model=32&minpr=125
00&maxpr=-1&x=65&y=15

>
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>>>
>>> Garry
Tsunami - 16 Aug 2006 19:52 GMT
> or

http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/TOYOTA/LANDCRUISER/Tasmania/1957472.aspx

http://www.tassiecars.com.au/srchres.jsp?dlr=-1&veh=3&make=76&model=32&minpr=125
00&maxpr=-1&x=65&y=15


> > Tis the one in Sandford
> >
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> >>>
> >>> Garry

What about "I want a 100 series" did you not get....... and not get 3 times?
smack - 17 Aug 2006 09:52 GMT
> What about "I want a 100 series" did you not get....... and not get 3
> times?

shhhhhhhhh
Tsunami - 17 Aug 2006 15:04 GMT
> > What about "I want a 100 series" did you not get....... and not get 3
> > times?
>
> shhhhhhhhh

Yeah OK it was worth a try
Garry Beattie - 17 Aug 2006 17:08 GMT
Oh well. I settled it once and for all yesterday.

I have gone with the 2000 model GXL 6cyl.

$17,000 changeover with the Prado as a trade.
I still think the price was a little high but the vehicle is in very good
condition and appears to have been well looked after.

It is now booked in for gas conversion on November 6 so hopefully everything
should be fine after that.

Garry
Scotty - 18 Aug 2006 00:23 GMT
> Oh well. I settled it once and for all yesterday.
>
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>
> Garry

OOOOHHHH NO you didnt go for that one did you!!!! Serious???

Just kidding, enjoy your new purchase and let us all know how the conversion
goes eh.  Its an issue that we will all be keen to hear about.
Garry Beattie - 18 Aug 2006 01:53 GMT
> OOOOHHHH NO you didnt go for that one did you!!!! Serious???
>
> Just kidding, enjoy your new purchase and let us all know how the
> conversion goes eh.  Its an issue that we will all be keen to hear about.

Thanks Scotty. Will do.

I pick it up later today after the fitting of the bull bar and the
electronic Anti Rust anodes.

Now all I need to do is figure out how to build another false floor and
storage area for it, but still being able to incorporate the back row of
seats!!

I don't think it will be possible some how.

Garry
Scotty - 18 Aug 2006 04:52 GMT
>> OOOOHHHH NO you didnt go for that one did you!!!! Serious???
>>
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>
> Garry

Send me a picture of what it looks like with the seats up will you.  May be
able to suggest something.
Garry Beattie - 18 Aug 2006 08:13 GMT
> Send me a picture of what it looks like with the seats up will you.  May
> be able to suggest something.

Will do.

I just took delivery of it so now I going for a drive!!!!

Garry

PS Did you get the last photo's I sent to you re the false floor and storage
in the Prado?
Perusal - 18 Aug 2006 09:39 GMT
> > Send me a picture of what it looks like with the seats up will you.  May
> > be able to suggest something.
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> PS Did you get the last photo's I sent to you re the false floor and storage
> in the Prado?

Which electronic rust proof system are you using?

Perusal
Garry Beattie - 18 Aug 2006 13:20 GMT
> Which electronic rust proof system are you using?
>
> Perusal

They installed a 3 module 41 TASS Auto Saver System with 2 modules under the
bonnet and a 3rd in the rear of the car.

Hopefully it works!!!

Best regards

Garry
Perusal - 20 Aug 2006 00:12 GMT
> > Which electronic rust proof system are you using?
> >
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>
> Garry

I had a Couplertec installed a while back but didn't have that 4WD long
enough to see if it was working.

Perusal
Garry Beattie - 20 Aug 2006 00:56 GMT
> I had a Couplertec installed a while back but didn't have that 4WD long
> enough to see if it was working.
>
> Perusal

Hi

They seem to know what causes the rust to occur these days and so hopefully
the brainiacs have worked out how to counteract it.

They have given me a 5 year warranty for the car so if any rust starts to
appear they will fix it.

"Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Its off to the beach we go......!!!"

Now.... where were those rocks down at Rainbow Beach again?????

Garry
Perusal - 20 Aug 2006 10:25 GMT
> > I had a Couplertec installed a while back but didn't have that 4WD long
> > enough to see if it was working.
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>
> Garry

Yeah the Couplertec one was guaranteed for 10 years, but nicks in paint etc
won't be protected, and the underbody isn't painted so you still really need
to use a chem solution for that.  You also need to have it inspected once a
year to check it's working.  The anode type apparently assist near the
anodes but not over the whole car?  I dunno... there's a lot of info out
there and hard to work out which is bs and which isn't.

Perusal
Garry Beattie - 20 Aug 2006 23:48 GMT
> Yeah the Couplertec one was guaranteed for 10 years, but nicks in paint
> etc
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>
> Perusal

True. With regards to the annodes though, they said they normally fit 2
annodes, but because the Landcruiser is so big they wanted to fit 3 to it.

So your comments on the Annodes sond pretty well correct. Either that or it
is an even better con to sell 3 annodes instead of 2!!

Garry
Moike - 20 Aug 2006 03:20 GMT
>>Which electronic rust proof system are you using?
>>
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>
> Garry

This system?
http://www.autosaver.com.au/faq.htm#q1

Classic snake oil.

The combination of pseudo-science, vague claims and "Technical
certification" all point to something that is probably about as
effective as a magnetic fuel conditioner.

For $50 less than whatever you paid for this bit of black magic, I will
attach a piece of my 'magic tape' to any new vehicle and guarantee that
it won't rust through inside five years, provided the paint surface is
not damaged. (That's what this mob offer.)

Of their 'certification' authorities, the ones that I can identify do
not certify the efficacy of the product.  Patent Office only tests
originality of the claims made.  The others certify the electrical
safety etc of the product.

Sorry, you've been had.

Can I interest you in a sabre-tooth tiger repellant?

Moike
Garry Beattie - 20 Aug 2006 23:45 GMT
> For $50 less than whatever you paid for this bit of black magic, I will
> attach a piece of my 'magic tape' to any new vehicle and guarantee that it
> won't rust through inside five years, provided the paint surface is not
> damaged. (That's what this mob offer.)

Sorry, but your black tape does not have 3 little LED lights on it, 2 of
which flash!! So it would not look as impressive!!!

> Sorry, you've been had.
> Moike

Maybe, but time will tell I guess!!!

If I have been had, then there are a heck of a lot of other people being
taken as well as they seem to do a very good trade selling these items.
Perusal - 22 Aug 2006 21:57 GMT
> > For $50 less than whatever you paid for this bit of black magic, I will
> > attach a piece of my 'magic tape' to any new vehicle and guarantee that it
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> If I have been had, then there are a heck of a lot of other people being
> taken as well as they seem to do a very good trade selling these items.

Yes, you wouldn't have surf lifesaving clubs and mining co's spending $$ on
them either.

Perusal
Pisshead Pete - 23 Aug 2006 13:26 GMT
>> > For $50 less than whatever you paid for this bit of black magic, I will
>> > attach a piece of my 'magic tape' to any new vehicle and guarantee that
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>
> Perusal

But do they buy Hiclones too? Purchasing officers of large organisations are
a salesmans best friend.

Signature

Pete ....it only costs him _one_ long lunch!  
The journey IS the destination.

Scotty - 18 Aug 2006 12:04 GMT
>> Send me a picture of what it looks like with the seats up will you.  May
>> be able to suggest something.
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> PS Did you get the last photo's I sent to you re the false floor and
> storage in the Prado?

Yeah got em. They looked good except that you shouldve carpeted the insides
of the draw ends and side peices to make it look professional.  Do you have
any contact adhesive like griptight or anything? Or at least an air powered
staple gun anyway. Sorry am being finicky as I used to do that sh.t for a
living and like to see it done right.

Scotty
Garry Beattie - 18 Aug 2006 13:12 GMT
>> PS Did you get the last photo's I sent to you re the false floor and
>> storage in the Prado?
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>
> Scotty

I know what your saying as I thought the same thing myself. I did use my air
staple gun to stick the carpet down, with contact adhesive underneath it.
I was going to complete the insides with either black paint or carpet but
did not get around to it.

The Prado is now gone and I guess that will be the next owners problem to
finish it completely.

The Landcruiser is very nice to drive.

Best regards

Garry
Garry Beattie - 16 Aug 2006 06:42 GMT
> You can have my 80 series for $14k

Thanks. There are plenty of them up here for that price too, but I have my
heart set on a 100 series.

Best regards

Garry
Kev - 16 Aug 2006 11:30 GMT
> Hi Guys.
>
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>
> Garry

the couple of people I know with V8 100s say they get around 800klms
from the two tanks(140L approx)
and some say the very best they got was just on 900klms
so you could guess that 800 would be the very best you'll get on gas

also you have to factor in the rise in LPG prices and fitting costs that
will be inevitable because of this subsidy

over $25,000 for anything older than 6 years is a bit too much for
petrol models, I've seen the 6cyl GXLs going for under $20,000
you should be able to get at least 2004 model for around $30,000-$33,000
I don't know when the 5 speed auto was introduced but it may have been
around then

but do look around a bit more because those prices seem too high

Kev
Garry Beattie - 16 Aug 2006 11:47 GMT
> the couple of people I know with V8 100s say they get around 800klms from
> the two tanks(140L approx)
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>
> Kev

Thanks for the tip Kev.

I have noticed some 98 models on Car Point for as low as $17,000 but the
majority of 2000 models seem to be up around the $25,000 to $30,000.

Garry
Kev - 16 Aug 2006 13:03 GMT
>>the couple of people I know with V8 100s say they get around 800klms from
>>the two tanks(140L approx)
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>
> Garry

there wasn't much of a change between 98 till about 2004
they introduced the V8 and that's about it
then the next model came with a change in the 75 series as well and they
dropped the 4.5L six in the wagons, and introduced the 5 speed auto in I
think 2005 and changed the interior about the only difference visibly
was the tail lights had clear indicators
the last change was early this year, noticeable by the clear headlight
lenses, headlights no longer stacked vertically and LED rear tail/brake
and indicators(indicators moved to the top with reverse now in between
them and stop/tail) and the real chrome "V8" or "TDI" badges on the tailgate

I'd be looking for at least the second update model and possibly a 5
speed auto

with the way petrol prices are going and the scare mongering going on
about the dangers of LPG, hang out for another 6 months, you may see
prices drop a lot further, and look a bit further than up your way
Brisbane isn't that far to travel to save a couple of thousand $$$

Kev
Kev - 16 Aug 2006 13:16 GMT
> there wasn't much of a change between 98 till about 2004
> they introduced the V8 and that's about it
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> them and stop/tail) and the real chrome "V8" or "TDI" badges on the
> tailgate

And no I'm not a 100 series nut
a mate of mine is
he can't get enough info on them
he not long ago bought the new turbo diesel

Kev
Garry Beattie - 16 Aug 2006 16:53 GMT
> And no I'm not a 100 series nut
> a mate of mine is
> he can't get enough info on them
> he not long ago bought the new turbo diesel
>
> Kev

Yeah. The TD is still the way I would prefer to go but there are not that
many of them around and they are still fetching quite good $$.

I know we almost bought one 6 months ago for $25,000 (98 model, 250k) but
quite a few people told me it was overpriced and so I backed away from it.

I am not sure if I did the right thing or not, now!!

As far as travelling, I would not rule out driving to Sydney or Melbourne to
pick one up provided the quality was there and the price was worth the
hassle.

Best regards

Garry
Rocatanski - 16 Aug 2006 22:38 GMT
I have a 2000 TD and it is the best Cruiser I have owned, when I purchased
it in 2003 they were as scarce as rocking horse sh.t,.but a mate got one a
2004 from the SO.A. Gov auctions earlier this year and there seemed to be a
fair few around, it was a  manual, winch bar side steps etc for $45,000.

>> And no I'm not a 100 series nut
>> a mate of mine is
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>
> Garry
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 17 Aug 2006 14:11 GMT
yeahhhhhhh riiiiiiiite
lol

> And no I'm not a 100 series nut
>
> Kev
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 17 Aug 2006 14:11 GMT
gees id burn my toyota if it got less than 8kms/lt
hth

> the couple of people I know with V8 100s say they get around 800klms from
> the two tanks(140L approx)
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>
> Kev
Rocatanski - 16 Aug 2006 22:38 GMT
"Rocatanski" <clark_200NOSPAM@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:...
>I have a 2000 TD and it is the best Cruiser I have owned, when I purchased
>it in 2003 they were as scarce as rocking horse sh.t,.but a mate got one a
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>>
>> Garry
Rocatanski - 21 Aug 2006 05:54 GMT
Glad to see another happy 100 series owner.
God we are a great bunch.
> Hi Guys.
>
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>
> Garry
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 21 Aug 2006 07:27 GMT
omg  ya startin to sound like kev      lol

> Glad to see another happy 100 series owner.
> God we are a great bunch.
Rocatanski - 21 Aug 2006 08:40 GMT
sh.t someone shoot me.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
> omg  ya startin to sound like kev      lol
>
>> Glad to see another happy 100 series owner.
>> God we are a great bunch.
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 21 Aug 2006 08:52 GMT
lol

> sh.t someone shoot me.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Kev - 23 Aug 2006 13:12 GMT
> sh.t someone shoot me.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
could be worse
ya could be a happy lowrider 75 series owner

Kev
Figjam (AKA Biggus Dickus) - 24 Aug 2006 15:29 GMT
geees ya jus dont give up do ya

>> sh.t someone shoot me.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
> could be worse
> ya could be a happy lowrider 75 series owner
>
> Kev
Phred - 21 Aug 2006 12:05 GMT
>Hi Guys.
>
>Now that they have just announced the new Gas subsidy I decided to go have
>another look around for a 100 series Toyota Land Cruiser, this time though I
>am looking at petrol models and convert it over to gas.

Just make sure you never run out of fuel out in the sticks.

>They certainly have dropped in price from a couple of months ago so now may
>be a good time to buy.
[...]

Cheers, Phred.

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Garry Beattie - 21 Aug 2006 19:58 GMT
>>Hi Guys.
>>
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>
> Just make sure you never run out of fuel out in the sticks.

We still keep the 2 fuel tanks. So we should never have a problem finding
some sort of fuel to put into it!!

140L of petrol and 92L of Gas!

Maybe I will be driving around in a virtual time bomb???

Garry
Scotty - 22 Aug 2006 08:01 GMT
>>>Hi Guys.
>>>
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>
> Garry

Stuff the radio, CDs, IPod etc, they will steal your car for the fuels its
carrying!
 
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