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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / August 2006Simple question for landcruiser owners
Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I can mull around in my head). I have a 1986 Toyota Landcruiser Wagon with the 2H diesel engine. It is a 5 speed manual and what I am wondering is ; How much is a replacement clutch (fitted, etc) going to cost me roughly? Apparently there is no adjustment left in the clutch and so the next repair will be replacement of the unit. I just need to know if I hock my first or second born, or, if we need to breed a few more for a group price.. My guess is somewhere between $1000 and $1500 supplied and fitted - -also pays to fit a heavy duty clutch as it will last longer and take more abuse but it all depends on how many more years you are keeping the vehcile. Stevesub > Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type > questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > repair will be replacement of the unit. I just need to know if I hock my > first or second born, or, if we need to breed a few more for a group price.. > Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type > questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > first or second born, or, if we need to breed a few more for a group > price.. I don't have an 86 model Landcruiser but I do have an 85 model Nissan Patrol Turbo Diesel, and we replaced the clutch about 12 months ago with a heavy duty clutch. It cost us, just over $1,200 to have replaced. I would dare say a Landcruiser would cost about the same depending on which mechanic you choose. Best regards Garry >> Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type >> questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I can [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Garry $1200 !!!!!! sh.t, Id imagine that a non genuine clutch kit would set ya back,what, say $250 max. Thats $950 labour at $65hr, thats 14 hours for a clutch, Id say yourve been ripped off there Gary. Unless its a genuine Toyota unit which would maybe around $500ish (My last genuine purchase was a hiace clutch which cost $280) which would still leave 8 hours @ $85 dealer priceing. Hell, Id say thats one expensive job. > $1200 !!!!!! sh.t, Id imagine that a non genuine clutch kit would set ya > back,what, say $250 max. Thats $950 labour at $65hr, thats 14 hours for a > clutch, Id say yourve been ripped off there Gary. Unless its a genuine > Toyota unit which would maybe around $500ish (My last genuine purchase was > a hiace clutch which cost $280) which would still leave 8 hours @ $85 > dealer priceing. Hell, Id say thats one expensive job. I was a bit surprised too Scotty, and maybe your right. A mate of mine assured me that was about the correct price for a heavy duty clutch though. I really don't know so I have no idea if I was ripped off or not. I don't use that mechanic anymore either. Best regards Garry Clutch kit for HJ60 or HJ75 cruiser costs $235 on ebay - not sure how long it takes to fit it, but $1,000 labour seems a lot to me David PS the URL for that is http://cgi3.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=1864mike > >> Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type > >> questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I can [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > hiace clutch which cost $280) which would still leave 8 hours @ $85 dealer > priceing. Hell, Id say thats one expensive job. > Clutch kit for HJ60 or HJ75 cruiser costs $235 on ebay - not sure how long > it > takes to fit it, but $1,000 labour seems a lot to me > > David Keep in mind though that mine was an 85 Nissan Patrol 6cyl Turbo Diesel. It is one mother of a motor that, I have been told, was used in their tractors?? Perhaps the clutch for it is quite large??? Who knows!! Garry S/F a clutch for a Landcruiser is $1085 this is using a genuine Toyota clutch kit, allowing for a flywheel machine (no hope of parts wty without one) and labour and GST. $1085 is all up no more to pay. Has me a little stuffed why people think dealers are always going to be dearer than after market. Over the past few months I have won quiet a few major jobs quoting against non gen repairers based on price alone, when you add in im quoting genuine parts allot of these non gen repairers must be making a ton of profit. And yes I work for a Toyota dealer:) if anyone needs quotes or info yell out. > Now I know this is one of those "how long is a piece of string" type > questions but what I am after is a rough ballpark figure (something I can [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > first or second born, or, if we need to breed a few more for a group > price.. >S/F a clutch for a Landcruiser is $1085 > this is using a genuine Toyota clutch kit, allowing for a flywheel machine [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> first or second born, or, if we need to breed a few more for a group >> price.. For our older Landcruiser (95 model 75 series ute), the local Toyota dealership/repair shop usually quote us non-genuine parts first, and genuine stuff second. In a couple of instances, they were fitting non-genuine stuff without asking me if I had a choice. ...Now, why would a Toyota place be quoting non-genuine by preference?? Mind you, a number of quotes recently have seen the Toyota parts very close to the same price as non-genuine, and so we fitted the Toyota branded items. ....For the 2005 79 series Landcruiser ute, they only quote me genuine, as it's still under warranty. ----------------- Cheers, Rod.....Out Back ================================================== For a selection of my pics from the past 12 months, visit the web site below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/ > Mind you, a number of quotes recently have seen the Toyota parts very > close to the same price as non-genuine, and so we fitted the Toyota > branded items. Perhaps Toyota have become the first of the car manufacturers who have finally worked out they are losing lots of $$ because they are not competing with their own market place for parts. Good on them too. It will probably take years for the others, such as Ford and Holden, to ever catch on. Greed tends to numb the brain!!!! Garry Maybe Garry, but I tend to doubt it - quote from local Toyota dealer to replace faulty cig lighter in my 4Runner was $185 ...and the thieving buggers add (or at least tried to) $10 on every bill for 'sundries' like cleaning rags etc (their words, not mine) David - who wouldn't let a dealer within sniffing distance of his credit card > Perhaps Toyota have become the first of the car manufacturers who have > finally worked out they are losing lots of $$ because they are not competing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Garry > Maybe Garry, but I tend to doubt it - quote from local Toyota dealer to > replace [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Garry Yeah, I got the Holden dealer to service me 06 Rodeo and the price was astronomical. Glad its a company car thats for sure. Sundries price was $25 and when I queried it they broke it down to rags, glues, lubricants (of which was already charged for in the service), and sealants. Now what on earth would you use anyof these apart from Rags to clean the oily hand prints off the front guards for? Every other workshop uses rags, glues, lube and sealants etc but they dont have to charge for it. The high $/hr rate is purely due to the big arse sign out front. No wonder people prefer not to use the dealers most of the time. They must stay alive due to fleet and people with to much money/No fricken idea Im sure. >> Maybe Garry, but I tend to doubt it - quote from local Toyota dealer to >> replace [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > must stay alive due to fleet and people with to much money/No fricken idea > Im sure. I did charge for sundries at one time but dropped it and added it to the labour, you would be suprised in a busy work shop how quick you can get through lubricants, brake fluid, wd40, lubesticks, silicone, loctite, grease, degreaser, anti sieze and others that I can't think of at the moment. Its really not practicle to charge for 200ml of gear oil, 25 ml of brake fluid, 40ml of power steering fluid, 5 mm of lube stick and an eye dropper of loctite etc, but the public clearly don't like to be charged for sundries. > I did charge for sundries at one time but dropped it and added it to the > labour, you would be suprised in a busy work shop how quick you can get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > eye dropper of loctite etc, but the public clearly don't like to be > charged for sundries. I think more to the point the public do not like to be ripped off, and because just about everyone has been ripped off many times over, people are starting to jack up about it. I don't mind paying for what I get, as long as I know what I am paying for. Garry I have no objection to apying for brake fluid etc, and it is not hard to calculate the cost of small quantities - I was a lube operator for a few years and had no hassle with that sort of thing, and had no complaints from customers for specified items. Re rags, lube stick, loctite and such, these are just the cost of doing business, and $10 or $25 per car is just ridiculous and requires a thieving bastard response. David > I did charge for sundries at one time but dropped it and added it to the > labour, you would be suprised in a busy work shop how quick you can get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > dropper of loctite etc, but the public clearly don't like to be charged for > sundries. > No wonder people prefer not to use the dealers most of the time. They > must stay alive due to fleet and people with to much money/No fricken idea > Im sure. Unfortunately that would include me!! (The No Fricken idea part, NOT the too much money bit!!!) But even idiots like me know when something is way over the top. Recently when I replaced the ignition key lock thingy on the Nissan Patrol, Nissan quoted me just on $400 for a new ignition lock. Repco sold it to me for $75. Garry |
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