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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / September 2006Rod outback re UHF
Well I just posted a reply to your query and then looked up the site about repeaters on the net. http://www.telstat.com.au/uhf_qld.htm lists Qld and infact all of Australia repeater channels. http://www.telstat.com.au/uhfworks.htm Gives you an idea how to set up your UHF to repeater mode. Anyway I am not very technical I just know we use it when we are out there. Good luck Kathy. >Well I just posted a reply to your query and then looked up the site about >repeaters on the net. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Good luck >Kathy. Kathy, Many thanks for the link to the repeater sites. Greatly appreciated. I leave about next Wednesday, but I starting to get psyched up already! Weird... ----------------- Cheers, Rod.....Out Back ================================================== For a selection of my pics from the past 12 months, visit the web site below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/ >> Well I just posted a reply to your query and then looked up the site about >> repeaters on the net. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I leave about next Wednesday, but I starting to get psyched up > already! Weird... Not really ,(Frankinferter said it so well "ANTICEEEPATIONNN" ) you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from Victoria all across Kinarvan area and has now headed out your way somewhere over the last several days , just great reception and like a radio phone , > ----------------- > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > visit the web site below: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rod_outback/ > you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do now > , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from Victoria > all across Kinarvan area and has now headed out your way somewhere over > the last several days , just great reception and like a radio phone , What would a ham radio cost these days and who sells them? Where do you enquire about the licence? Garry >> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do now >> , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from Victoria [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Garry you can pick up an hf set from a couple of hundred dollars , a grand will get an almost new set , vhf uhf from $60.00 for handhelds on e-bay Where are you and I will find a club close by or go to http://www.wia.org.au they only rep about 25% of the hams but they have uses. >>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.wia.org.au > they only rep about 25% of the hams but they have uses. HFs for only a few hundred? Where? >>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Where? Last Saturday I bought a 101 e and a 520 both for $200.00 if you want a ,obile they statrt about $400.00 used. Check ebay. Will all HF radio's operate on both the 2m and 40m bands, or do you require a different set for each? Garry > Will all HF radio's operate on both the 2m and 40m bands, or do you require > a different set for each? > > Garry Older sets you need one of each , sone if the new sets like the ft857d will do both. >>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Where? I bought my Alinco DX70TH for $600 does 30Khz-60Mhz RX and 1700Khz to 60 Mhz TX all modes, AM/FM/USB/LSB/CW 100watts on USB/LSB/CW and 70watts on AM/FM 100 programmable memory channels and it has a remote head fantstic radio for the price Kev >>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Kev Dos it come with one of those big fat aerials? I've always reckoned that gives you more bloke cred than pissy UHF ones. :-) Does anyone remember a thread 3-4 years ago about when I used my UHF in the Gulf and got onto the RACQ 120 K's away? Apparently it was impossible to do, so I was full of sh.t for claiming that I did. Anyway.........if HF's are as cheap as that, I think I'll invest in one. When I take the kids outback, I reckon it would be good "insurance". I know from when I worked in Nth west Qld, good communications were a matter of life and death sometimes. I'm assuming these rigs can contact the RFDS >>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > from when I worked in Nth west Qld, good communications were a matter of > life and death sometimes. I'm assuming these rigs can contact the RFDS They may operate on rfds, I don't believe it is normally legal to do so unless in an emergency , but for everything else very useful . you can find the odd Codan on ebay with rfds installed . if its a once-off trip you may be able to rent a satellite phone. My in-laws are off today for a couple of weeks in their camper and with the sat phone can emergency call from anywhere. Darren >>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > from when I worked in Nth west Qld, good communications were a matter of > life and death sometimes. I'm assuming these rigs can contact the RFDS > if its a once-off trip you may be able to rent a satellite phone. My > in-laws are off today for a couple of weeks in their camper and with the [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >> matter of life and death sometimes. I'm assuming these rigs can contact >> the RFDS I feel compelled to jump in at this stage. Not ALL satphone services are reliable. I could have died 20 times over waiting for Globalstar to get their act together. They advertise that you can jump tall buildings in a single bound but the truth is that their *service* is both unrelaible and their advertising misleading. Furthermore they ignore any correspondance on such matters. > I feel compelled to jump in at this stage. Not ALL satphone services are > reliable. I could have died 20 times over waiting for Globalstar to get > their act together. They advertise that you can jump tall buildings in a > single bound but the truth is that their *service* is both unrelaible and > their advertising misleading. Furthermore they ignore any correspondance > on such matters. Very interesting comments Jim, and thanks. As a boatie, most of us who plan on venturing out past the VHF limits often discuss the idea of Sat phone Vs HF. Sat phone always wins the argument hands down, but I have never heard anyone mention what you just did. That certainly throws a new angle on it for sure. How often does this happen? Garry >> I feel compelled to jump in at this stage. Not ALL satphone services are >> reliable. I could have died 20 times over waiting for Globalstar to get [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Garry Gary, just caught up on your post sorry. I have many posts elsewhere saying that others have had problems. But talking to the service providers it appears that it *might* be a coverage thing at the moment. What I do know is that the Ericson R290 phone is the main culprit, and that coverage is currently patchy at least in the north and west of Oz. My advice would be to "try before you buy" if at all possible. Hire or borrow one and use it where you normally need one. Cheers >>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >from when I worked in Nth west Qld, good communications were a matter of >life and death sometimes. I'm assuming these rigs can contact the RFDS Barnsey, We have held conversations with other properties that were over 140 kms away certain mornings. Last time I recall, it was a fine, cool, damp morning just after a week of rain. It was clear(no cloud), but there was obviously some sort of skip happening. We held a conversation with the other station for about 15 minutes before the 'skip' faded. Also, we regularly hear both the Tambo and Winton repeater on cool, damp mornings here. Both repeaters would be over 200 kms away direct. I doubt we could reply to them, but we can hear them... If you can wait a few weeks, I can get you an HF(Codan 8525) for the right price(like SFA), if you like. However, you'd have to sort out an antenna for it. Neighbour has a leftover from his kids School of the air(now all satellite), but it apparently has RFDS freqs still on it. I can find out if you like, but it'd be 4 weeks before I can send it to you. Personally, I'd find a sat-phone more usefull to me, but the HF would be a lot more social, as well as a lot cheaper. Probably easier to get someone local to come save you as well... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back >>>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy to do >>>>>>> now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has driven from [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back Rod from the conditions you describe it dount its "skip" more like extended ground wave , I am willing to be you have a setup which has fitted into certain criteria for "gettingout" in particual the aeria is at just the right height which isn't always super high . Barnsey should consider the codan as they are an excellent and usful rig . kind of you to offer . Never rely on sat phones , in the years I have had them availible there has never been any certainty although things are better than a few years ago. >> >> Cheers, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > has never been any certainty although things are better than a few years > ago. Temperature inversion or Tropospheric ducting when a cold layer of air is trapped under a warm layer(temp inversion) it makes an RF tunnel where the VHF and UHF radio waves get trapped and reflected along, usually in just one path direction and a cool humid morning is usually when it happens 200klms is quite achievable channel 2 repeater in Brisbane is sometimes wiped out by the channel 2 repeater at Gunalda about 200 klms north(about 35klms nth of Gympie) Kev >>> Cheers, >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Kev When in NZ I run an AM set that had unbeleiveable skip one Boxing day. Wellington to Gore (Some 800Kms South). Positions backed up with Mobile phone call to land line. Never had that kind of skip again. And that was with a 4 Watt set as well. Go figure?!?!?! >>>> Cheers, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Go figure?!?!?! Yeah different type of skip Scotty that has to do with sun spot activity and the ionosphere(11 year cycle, of which we are now at the bottom of, another 6 years will see those conditions back again) back around 86 I could talk to Hawaii with nothing more than a 5 ft fiberglass andtenna on the car and my trusty Uniden AX144 sideband the inversion is a weather related type and mostly affects VHF and UHF freqs Kev >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Kev In '77 I was driving around with a 40 channel Phillips side bander in the ute ( v8 xy) on 27 + mhz talking all over the wold on very low power . to do that now I need to run the 12 ft screwdriver , a 35 amps amplifier and a 100 watt exciter with a preamp on 40 meters, I look forward to the sunspot peak. >>>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy >>>>>>> to do now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back Barnsey, theres an offer not to be refused!! Get that and and worst case buy a new antenna for $200 and you are in business. That and the fees to join VKS-737 who now have Aus wide coverage and a membership of thousands and you cant go wrong. The coverage they offer is the insurance for your family and your gear throughout Aus, the CB is handy but the Codan will perform all the time anywhere.  SignatureCheers ............. Rheilly P >>>>>>>> you might consider getting a ham ticket at a later date , easy >>>>>>>> to do now , I have been talking to a guy on 40 metres who has [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > throughout Aus, the CB is handy but the Codan will perform all the > time anywhere. Gee Ill take the radio off your hands if no body else does! Even pay the frieght too. Lushy in deep cool Victoria > Gee Ill take the radio off your hands if no body else does! Even pay the > frieght too. > Lushy in deep cool Victoria Buggar off ya bloody Mexican!!! .-) This is a Qld thing, stay out of it! Of course, I'll pay freight and remuneration in 4x for Rods efforts. Hell, I might even do a road trip to pick it up and assist Rod with the 4x. I'm always looking for an excuse for a road trip outback, but realistically, postage will probably be the go. Very grateful for the offer, once again. Cheers >> Gee Ill take the radio off your hands if no body else does! Even pay the >> frieght too. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Cheers Barnsey, I'm heading off down the Birdsville track - SA - Vic, etc for about 4 weeks tomorrow, and will do something about the radio when I get back. Dont stress; it's yours. I was under the impression it had the RFDS channel fitted, but the neighbour's now not sure. It would only be a matter of a radio bloke fitting the correct crystal. There is also a base antenna (basically 3 long runs of insulated wire), but I'll talk to you when I retrieved the radio and checked it out. I give you a heads-up on my return. Cheers, Rod. Cheers, Rod.....Out Back >>> Gee Ill take the radio off your hands if no body else does! Even pay the >>> frieght too. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back No worries Rod. Enjoy your trip >>>Gee Ill take the radio off your hands if no body else does! Even pay the >>>frieght too. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it Kev > Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 > channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it > > Kev No there's a rare beastie these days... Thing is, I've got one, so if someone can tell me what sort of EPROM and what to burn onto it, I'm happy to burn an EPROM or two for Barnsey. Given that these things are supposedly recent tech, are you sure it isn't an EEPROM? (I don't have a burner for those). If it's an EPROM it should be a standard looking electronic cockroach except for the transparent window in the top centre (used to erase the things with UV). -- >> Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 >> channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > except for the transparent window in the top centre (used to erase the > things with UV). I have forgotten which model codan it is but this link is handeeee.. http://www.qsl.net/vk3cat/Mobiles/mobiles.html >>> Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 >>> channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > http://www.qsl.net/vk3cat/Mobiles/mobiles.html The Codan 8528 uses a 512 eprom. There are three options availiable in the programming , depending upon your availiable software. *Normal*, Amateur and Option E which allows front panel selection of frequencies. This option is frowned upon by authorities in Oz for obvious reasons. Although the eprom can be burnt with just a burner, changing a profile can only be done with the Codan software which dates back to the 1980's. >>>>Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 >>>>channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Although the eprom can be burnt with just a burner, changing a profile can > only be done with the Codan software which dates back to the 1980's. Which I think I have a copy of here somewhere and yes I do have it with a couple of .bin files for the burner I have also heard that you can in fact upgrade the 8525 to an 8528 but it requires a bit more than just a simple eprom the head unit is one Kev >>>>>Those Codans are EPROM programmed and can have I think at least 100 >>>>>channels programmed in, so anyone with an EPROM programmer can do it [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Kev Actually Kev, you can only upgrade the 8525B to a 28, not an 8525A. Different internals. To upgrade the 25B to a 28 requires a 28 remote head (scarce as..I'll buy half a dozen if anyone has em :) and change the profile of the 512 eprom to a 28. If wanting 27 or 28 meg you'll also need the low power loom. Cheers Jim > Actually Kev, you can only upgrade the 8525B to a 28, not an 8525A. > Different internals. To upgrade the 25B to a 28 requires a 28 remote head [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cheers > Jim Yeah that's right forgot there were two 8525 models Kev "Rod Out Back" <someone@IHATESPAM.BIGPOND.COM> wrote in message > If you can wait a few weeks, I can get you an HF(Codan 8525) for the right > price(like SFA), if you like. However, you'd have to sort out an antenna [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back FARK YEAH! I cant say no to an offer like that!!! How do I get in touch, Rod? The conditions you describe about UHF comms are about right for that night I was in the gulf, by the way. Cold night, clear sky......... One of the mining jobs I've applied for will require me to drive 30 Ks past the Lynd and back (week on week off roster). I've driven that road many times, and had a few dramas, ranging from tyre blow outs to attending to a car accident victim. So apart from having reliable comms for my family trips, I'd feel more secure knowing I could get the RFDS etc........ I posted a reply yesterday, saying YES PLEASE!!!!!! to the HF offer, but it hasn't shown up here. Maybe I buggered something up (night shift) "Rod Out Back" <someone@IHATESPAM.BIGPOND.COM> wrote in message > > Barnsey, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back >I posted a reply yesterday, saying YES PLEASE!!!!!! to the HF offer, but it >hasn't shown up here. Maybe I buggered something up (night shift) No you did'nt........ THIS is what you said:- "FARK YEAH! I cant say no to an offer like that!!!" And it DID appear over here in the West...... Must be good skip happening.......... >"Rod Out Back" <someone@IHATESPAM.BIGPOND.COM> wrote in message > >> Barnsey, >> I posted a reply yesterday, saying YES PLEASE!!!!!! to the HF offer, but it >> hasn't shown up here. Maybe I buggered something up (night shift) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> "Rod Out Back" <someone@IHATESPAM.BIGPOND.COM> wrote in message > >>> Barnsey, Ducting on bottom band . ? > Where are you and I will find a club close by or go to I am in Bundaberg, Qld. Garry |
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