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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / November 2006

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Mazda Tribute downhill performance

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BrianM - 23 Sep 2006 23:11 GMT
I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
control of this vehicle as there doesn't appear to be any low gear
lockdown or engine braking with its auto transmission system.
The thought of taking my half tonne trailer plus a tonne and a half
of towing vehicle down a steep incline on brakes alone with the engine
idling,  frightens the sh.t out of me to be honest.
My alternative is the Nissan X-Trail which at least has a manual
transmission option.
Some advice would be appreciated.

thanks
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BrianM - 23 Sep 2006 23:23 GMT
> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
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>
> thanks

Further information left out of above post.
I'm talking about driving on sealed roads only, not serious off-road stuff
which both vehicles are not designed for or suited to.  As an example,
the steep grade down from Mt. Tamborine above the Gold Coast, to Oxenford.

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BrianM
Scotty - 23 Sep 2006 23:25 GMT
>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> --
> BrianM

Yikes, with that road alone Id go for the X-Trail.

IMHO Id concider the likes of deisels as well as they have better engine
braking.
BrianM - 24 Sep 2006 00:31 GMT
>>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> IMHO Id concider the likes of deisels as well as they have better engine
> braking.

Unfortunately I don't think there are any diesel softroad SUV's.
I like the V6 power of the Mazda, pity it doesn't come in manual.
For my modest needs, the softroader is adequate,
otherwise I'd be looking at a grunty true-4WD Toyota or Nissan.
Would still like to hear from any Tribute owners out there who tow
a good load out the back down steep grades.

cheers Scotty
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BrianM
Bludge - 26 Sep 2006 04:36 GMT
Hyundai Terracan = Diesel

Bludge

>>>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>>>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
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> --
> BrianM
Natalie Drest - 26 Sep 2006 13:31 GMT
> Unfortunately I don't think there are any diesel softroad SUV's.

Landrover Freelander- TD4
Peter Degotardi - 29 Sep 2006 09:45 GMT
>> Unfortunately I don't think there are any diesel softroad SUV's.
>
> Landrover Freelander- TD4

Terracan (and soon) SWB Pajero
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/E41A88EA222C1C58CA2571F8000EB520

Though I'd quite happily debate that *all* of these are a step
up from being 'softroaders'

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Biggus - 24 Sep 2006 07:24 GMT
>I'm talking about driving on sealed roads only

Buy a  commodore.
BrianM - 24 Sep 2006 08:58 GMT
>>I'm talking about driving on sealed roads only
>
> Buy a  commodore.

Another one ?

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BrianM
Kev - 28 Sep 2006 12:06 GMT
>>>I'm talking about driving on sealed roads only
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> BrianM

the commonbore will be a better tow vehicle than any small softroader
if you not going offroad just get a normal car

Kev
AM - 24 Sep 2006 10:40 GMT
>I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> transmission option.
> Some advice would be appreciated.

look at the Pathfinder
Barnsey - 24 Sep 2006 23:59 GMT
In my very limited knowledge of "soft roaders", I think a Suzuki GV is the
best of them.

I might be wrong though. Take one for a drive and see what you think.
BrianM - 26 Sep 2006 08:56 GMT
> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the Nissan X-Trail which at least has a manual transmission option. Some
> advice would be appreciated.

Thanks everyone for your replies - I solved the issue of transmission by
looking close at one today - it has the standard auto options of 1 2 D N R P
Bought one this afternoon.

cheers --
BrianM
Scotty - 26 Sep 2006 10:27 GMT
>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> cheers --
> BrianM

What extras did they suck you into?
BrianM - 26 Sep 2006 23:59 GMT
>>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> What extras did they suck you into?

None. I'll get a towbar fitted by a reputable private firm I know about
as the Franchise charges like a wounded buff !

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cheers
BrianM

Scotty - 27 Sep 2006 00:54 GMT
>>>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>>>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
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> None. I'll get a towbar fitted by a reputable private firm I know about
> as the Franchise charges like a wounded buff !

For Towbars give Mr Muffler in Mac Gregor a call, theyve done two for me at
great price and service was fantastic.

PS Tint plus in Mansfeild also does a great job at a good price.

(Neither are the cheapest around but best all round from my experience)
BrianM - 27 Sep 2006 06:06 GMT
>>>>> I was considering buying a 2001 Mazda Tribute Classic to tow my
>>>>> camper-trailer.  I have some real reservations about the downhill
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> (Neither are the cheapest around but best all round from my experience)

Vehicle alread has tint.  A-Line towbars in Southport are pretty good as
well.  thanks

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cheers
BrianM

Emjaye - 05 Nov 2006 12:19 GMT
BrianM said....

> None. I'll get a towbar fitted by a reputable private firm I know about
> as the Franchise charges like a wounded buff !

What sort and how much?
BrianM - 09 Nov 2006 02:56 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
>> None. I'll get a towbar fitted by a reputable private firm I know about
>> as the Franchise charges like a wounded buff !
>
> What sort and how much?

got a heavy duty Trailboss and it cost around $350 iirc.

cheers
BrianM
Emjaye - 05 Nov 2006 12:19 GMT
BrianM said....

> Thanks everyone for your replies - I solved the issue of transmission by
> looking close at one today - it has the standard auto options of 1 2 D N
> R P Bought one this afternoon.

Let us know how you're getting on with the vehicle. I've just bought a
Tribute (06 model, superceded one with the column shift). I wish to
purchase a small van, pop-top, camper, expanda, whatever. Therefore I'm
most keen to hear what people have to say about the car and their
experiences with it. Info is difficult to come by, other than reviews by
car mags and the like where they don't really do long term tests on such
vehicles under these conditions.
BrianM - 09 Nov 2006 02:56 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
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> car mags and the like where they don't really do long term tests on such
> vehicles under these conditions.

Sorry for the long pause between posts.
currently putting on some extras to the Tribby i.e. series 2 nudge bar
with Hella Comet 550 lights (not extraordinary lights but decent ones), some
new Simex tyres, mud flaps, got a heavy duty Trailboss towbar put on the
other day, so things are progressing nicely and we are doing the
Birdsville Track - well part of it -  with the campertrailer next winter.
One of the rewarding things I got for the interior was an el cheapo cup
holder fromThe Warehouse for  $3.50. It clips into the fixed air vent on
the drivers side. I lined it with soft velcro and my UHF-CB portable sits
in there perfectly.. I suppose there are flasher holders around but this
is retro !.  
cheers
BrianM
Kev - 09 Nov 2006 10:46 GMT
>>BrianM said....
>>
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> cheers
> BrianM

Umm
how long do you think that holder will stay there for?
think lots of bumpy roads and a bit of weight bouncing about inside it
try bumping it on top with your hand and see how much pressure it takes
to dislodge it
just a thought

Kev
BrianM - 09 Nov 2006 21:27 GMT
>>>BrianM said....
>>>
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>
> Kev

Hi Kev, I thought about that and applied large amounts of thick
double-backed tape to help keep it in place. I'll eventually get
around to putting in a proper holder but this will do for the highway
in the meantime.

cheers
BrianM
Emjaye - 09 Nov 2006 23:30 GMT
BrianM said....

> currently putting on some extras to the Tribby i.e. series 2 nudge bar
> with Hella Comet 550 lights (not extraordinary lights but decent ones),
> some new Simex tyres, mud flaps, got a heavy duty Trailboss towbar put

How much did the Trailboss cost you, and why did you pick it instead of
say, a Hayman Reece hitch?
BrianM - 10 Nov 2006 09:50 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> How much did the Trailboss cost you, and why did you pick it instead of
> say, a Hayman Reece hitch?

$480 fitted. Hayman-Reese and Trailboss are owned by the same company.

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BrianM - 10 Nov 2006 09:50 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> How much did the Trailboss cost you, and why did you pick it instead of
> say, a Hayman Reece hitch?

$480  fitted. Hayman-Reese and Trailboss are owned by the same company.

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BrianM

Emjaye - 14 Nov 2006 15:30 GMT
BrianM said....

>> How much did the Trailboss cost you, and why did you pick it instead of
>> say, a Hayman Reece hitch?
>  
> $480  fitted. Hayman-Reese and Trailboss are owned by the same company.

So, are you saying that the H-R and the Trailboss are the same towbar?
If so, why market them under different brand names?
Kev - 15 Nov 2006 02:59 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
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> So, are you saying that the H-R and the Trailboss are the same towbar?
> If so, why market them under different brand names?

go to any supermarket

have a look at how many supermarket names are out there
and how many are all owned by one Company

because the general public are easily fooled

Kev
Emjaye - 15 Nov 2006 09:11 GMT
Kev said....

>> So, are you saying that the H-R and the Trailboss are the same towbar?
>> If so, why market them under different brand names?

> go to any supermarket
>
> have a look at how many supermarket names are out there
> and how many are all owned by one Company
>
> because the general public are easily fooled

Maybe. But we're not talking about canned tomatoes or a TV dinner. This
is a specialist product usually decided upon by consumers who've
generally done their research.
Kev - 15 Nov 2006 20:29 GMT
> Kev said....
>
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> is a specialist product usually decided upon by consumers who've
> generally done their research.

not but it's the same priniple
why not sell the same product under more than one name
you will sell more than if you sold them all under the same name

Take the Dick Smith Electronics and Tandy deal
both are owned by Woolies, and both sell the same sh.t for the same
price but some people think that Tandy are better than DSE and vice-versa

and as for consumers doing research
the number of people who delve deeper than just listening to the
salesman are few and far between

Kev
BrianM - 16 Nov 2006 21:52 GMT
> BrianM said....
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So, are you saying that the H-R and the Trailboss are the same towbar?
> If so, why market them under different brand names?

Why are you asking me? I don't make towbars, I get qualified mechanics to
fit whatever they consider appropriate for the vehicle.
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