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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / November 2006Paint protection systems - are they worth it?
I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and fabric protection. I'm resisting until I can find out more about them. Are these worth the money? Any experience with these treatments? How long do they last and what sort of care is needed to keep them up? Any recommendations on alternative treatment? I googled "paint protection" and found numerous treatments on the market. Are there any ingredients (eg silicone, teflon, "glass") that are bad news. The ingredients seem to secret and magic in each brand. The dealer is pushing "4x4 crystal elements". But I've found lots of others, including Tough Seal, Magic Seal, Glare etc Jim Happ > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The dealer is pushing "4x4 crystal elements". But I've found lots of others, > including Tough Seal, Magic Seal, Glare etc Its nothing more than a scam to make lots of money for the dealer. Try getting quotes for the same "treatments" from someone other than a dealer and it will usually be half what the dealer quoted and even then I wouldn't bother. Daryl > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jim Happ Usually the dealer buy in the same products as you and charge a huge premium , you can archive the same result for a fraction of the cost doing things your self . atec77 said.... > Usually the dealer buy in the same products as you and charge a huge > premium , you can archive the same result for a fraction of the cost > doing things your self . Usually they send the car out to the same place as you would if you did it post-sale and charge a premium on top of what it gets charged "trade". Insurance, finance, after market accessories, body treatment etc. are all high margin earners for the dealer and do nothing for the value of the vehicle. You go to trade it, the dealer, or whoever it is that you're trying to sell the vehicle to won't give a stuff about these "extras". Some may be selling points, perhaps. but they won't value add, and you won't recoup the cost on resale. > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jim Happ Jim , insteed of spending $300 on a one off paint proection scam, go to a groomer supply company and spend your $300 on a decent bunch of products. Good wax, glass cleaner, plastic treatment (NOT ARMOURALL!!!!!!!) etc will see yoru Nissan through the nest few years with ease. If your in SEQld I can let ya know where to get such stuff. Don't waste your money on paint protection, just wash it and put a good wax on it every so often. If you have cloth seats spend the money on fabric protection I did and am grateful after kids throwing up and drinks spilt on them, I just wiped off leaving no stain or smell money well spent > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jim Happ Sell this crap if it is in need for something like this. Axel >I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager >heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and >fabric protection. I'm resisting until I can find out more about them. > I,m(was) a spraypainter and have found over the years that giving you vehicle a good silicon wax like Turtlewax evey 3 months keeps it in great condition by removing oxides from the paint surface(chalky) and leaving a coat of wax on .so called miracle polishes aren't worth it IMHO. wash it once a week and avoid direct sunlight all day if possible especially north of about Rocky 'cos of the increased UV(though in your case with a .de email suffix I doubt it is critical.DON"T use a cutting paste as ir removes paint .Fabric protection is a ''Good Thing" and as mentioned before more so if they are the velour type ,needs doing about every 2 years.Scotchgard is good N.B. If it's red or metallic wax it every 2 months' Scotty Sell this crap if it is in need for something like this. Axel Jim Happ wrote: >I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager >heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection > >fabric protection. I'm resisting until I can find out more about them. See what I mean? :-) Axel >I,m(was) a spraypainter and have found over the years that giving you >vehicle a good silicon wax like Turtlewax evey 3 months keeps it in great >condition by removing oxides from the paint surface(chalky) and leaving a >coat of wax on .so called miracle polishes aren't worth it IMHO. wash it >once a week and avoid direct sunlight all day if possible especially north >of about Rocky 'cos of the increased UV( > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jim Happ paint protection on a 4X4 is a complete waste anytime you go offroad you'll get scratches in the paint so the protection will also be scratched and be made worthless I bought a BA ford 2 years ago and it came with paint protection, the after sales chick tried to sell me more, at something like $700 when the car was damaged 3 months later and resprayed the insurance also covered the cost of re applying the protection, cost was $185 hmmmmm Kev > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jim Happ It's bullshit... the stuff costs about $25 a bottle. The hundreds you pay on top is for labour plus gigantic margin. I bought the stuff they sell off www.counteract.com.au for my Jeep, but last time for the Pathy I got lazy and paid some mob to do it for $180. Just don't pay a fortune at the dealers. Perusal Jim said.... > I've just bought a demo Nissan Pathfinder and the After Market Manager > heavied my about spending a huge amount of money for paint protection > and fabric protection. I'm resisting until I can find out more about > them. > > Are these worth the money? Any experience with these treatments? No. Neither is rust protection. Particularly when you're not going to own the vehicle for more than the average of around 3-5 years, when the vehicle will most likely still be under warranty, and anyway, you won't give a sh.t about it. All the aftermarket stuff is doing is to further pad out the profits on the vehicle, and the cost is usually financed anyway, so that means a larger loan, and hence higher comissions to the dealer. |
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