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Build your own camper trailer?
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Terryc - 15 Nov 2006 23:36 GMT Has anyone done it? How hard?
I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free time atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the fancy stuff, whether I can just build my own?
atec77# - 15 Nov 2006 23:50 GMT > Has anyone done it? > How hard? > > I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free > time atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the > fancy stuff, whether I can just build my own? I have assisted in building one , if you can weld well and have some carpentry skills then the build for 1/2 price is achievable and no you don't have to do without the goodies , although some of them are not required.
quietguy - 15 Nov 2006 23:51 GMT Not sure if you were looking at some super dooper stuff, but our local dealer sells a range of models around the $10K - $12k mark. These were with kitchen etc, but no fridge etc. I didn't look at them all that closely, but they seemed OK
David
> Has anyone done it? > How hard? > > I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free > time atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the > fancy stuff, whether I can just build my own? Barnsey - 16 Nov 2006 01:55 GMT > Has anyone done it? > How hard? > > I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free time > atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the fancy > stuff, whether I can just build my own? Have a look on 4wd monthly web site in the projects and build up section. There's a bloke making his own Ultimate Camper. 7-8 pages of tech info. Great read!
Terryc - 16 Nov 2006 05:48 GMT > Have a look on 4wd monthly web site in the projects and build up section. > There's a bloke making his own Ultimate Camper. 7-8 pages of tech info. > Great read! Thanks, I think? {:-)
Definitely very nice work that he is doing.
Not sure if it was wise to show it to the missus. I had to explain that he was copying a very, very, very expensive trailer, but she did make some encouraging noises about considering the idea.
There is actually a wealth of ideas there (lots of other folks putting in comments and suggestions), much of which had not occurred to me to consider.
I thnk I'd better start on some drawings (and costings).
Scotty - 16 Nov 2006 10:39 GMT >> Have a look on 4wd monthly web site in the projects and build up section. >> There's a bloke making his own Ultimate Camper. 7-8 pages of tech info. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I thnk I'd better start on some drawings (and costings). Id start with the costings and work backwards adding or subtracting what ya want in your project.
Terryc - 16 Nov 2006 14:58 GMT > Id start with the costings and work backwards adding or subtracting what ya > want in your project. Yes, as I was discussing with "the boss" tonight. "half price, you mean like $10K" and i explained that included stuff like buying the refrigerator, stove, etc.
So we will do a few visits to suppliers and build up a desireable items list with costs and sizing and see what we can afford/justify.
The "first" trailer will probably be an on-road design and not anywhere near as robust as that project. Then if the bosses health and interest keeps up, the off road might follow.
Scotty - 17 Nov 2006 07:37 GMT >> Id start with the costings and work backwards adding or subtracting what >> ya want in your project. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > near as robust as that project. Then if the bosses health and interest > keeps up, the off road might follow. Why not buy a second hand upmarket unit. They are out there, just gotta look. Someone whos forked out $20k and has it sitting in the driveway for 5 years would probaly like to get it out of the way.
Barnsey - 17 Nov 2006 08:49 GMT >>> Id start with the costings and work backwards adding or subtracting what >>> ya want in your project. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > look. Someone whos forked out $20k and has it sitting in the driveway for > 5 years would probaly like to get it out of the way. Yes, there's lots of those around.
I got my pop top from my dad. He bought it when he retired in 1986 to do "the big trip", but my mum refused to go. So he gave it to me for SFA, and I did it up for off road use.
Worth a thought
Rod Out Back - 16 Nov 2006 02:12 GMT >Has anyone done it? >How hard? > >I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free >time atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the >fancy stuff, whether I can just build my own? I'd like to build my own slide-on unit for the Landcruiser ute. All the slide-on models I've seen seem to focus on things I dont want, and I reckon I can make up something simpler, and more in tune with what I'd like in a camping rig. I hate the idea that most slide-ons have your main living space on the gound, when I'd prefer to be sleeping off the ground if possible. Less chance of creepy-crawlies, or rain ruining your camp.
I want to build a slide-on that has a bed down each side, that fold out level with the tray. A 2.4m Landcruiser tray has heaps of length to have a bed each side, and it becomes the wall of your camper when the rig is in transit(folded up). This would make it pretty hard to break into when locked up. The base of each bed can be your personal storage, and would fit a fair amount of stuff. The rear tailgate would be the same as the beds, and allow you some extra room for getting in & out of the rig(a landng with maybe a set of foldable steps). Make the roof a wind-up arrangement that provides a hard top(same as one of those Ute-lids) for the folded-up rig, and a structure for the canvas sides when unfolded. Aside from a set of those flexi-fibreglass rods to bow out the canvas over each bed & landing, you'd have very little to do once you've folded the 3 sides down, set the stabliser legs and wound the roof up.
All I'd want in the space in the centre of the slide-on would be a pair of foldable chairs, and foldup table, a smallish fridge/esky and the option for a cooker of some sort. Maybe make it so the cooker can swing out onto the rear landing. If such a beast was doable, I reckon you'd end up with a living area in the order of 3.8m x 2.4m (not including rear landing). Heaps of room for a camping rig for 1 or 2 people.
I'm not too worried about power, water facilities, etc, as I dont see them as something I need in my camping rig. I can come up with simpler setups for these myself.
I'm actually thinking of getting some aluminium box, and welding up a basic version of this, but I'd probably pay to have someone do it professionally, if I could find someone who could turn my ideas into reality.. Most camping trailer manufacturers I've spoken to will only build their set models, as they have had to rationalise what their building to keep up with demand.
One of my (many) dreams....sigh.
Cheers,
Rod.....Out Back
Kev - 16 Nov 2006 04:08 GMT >>Has anyone done it? >>How hard? [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back Ta know Rod that you can buy a slide on camper that is exactly like the poptop campervans but the beds slide out the sides not the ends has a kitchen that slides out the bottom, beds on each side with a centre area for whatever
whan folded down is the same height as the ute roof so no wind drag
Kev
Rod Out Back - 16 Nov 2006 05:40 GMT >>>Has anyone done it? >>>How hard? [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > >Kev Kev,
You dont know who makes it, or where I could find out more about it? It isnt exactly what I'm looking for, but it'd be a good start!
Cheers,
Rod.....Out Back
Kev - 19 Nov 2006 05:04 GMT > Kev, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rod.....Out Back No sorry I don't I have seen them come up on Ebay every now and then there is another version on Ebay right now has a fold over top with the bed out to the side and living area in the centre, has landing legs so you can set it up on the ground and still have use of your vehicle folds down to roof height when travelling
Kev
Biggus - 16 Nov 2006 11:27 GMT buy a good used one for $5-8k.
mate tried building one, the canvas killed him at around $5k alone.
Terryc - 16 Nov 2006 15:01 GMT > buy a good used one for $5-8k. > > mate tried building one, the canvas killed him at around $5k alone. Do you remember any further details?
In the 80's I was buying superdux cordura(?) locally and making stuff, but I am told by other manufacturers that they have to import from overseas. I expect that customs duty to protect a non-existant Australian industry still adds a healthy slug.
Biggus - 17 Nov 2006 13:02 GMT yea, he made the trailer and boxes, still uses it today - without the canvas or anything else, just a really big box trailer.
His quotes for the canvas work to suit ranged from $5k up, he was budgeting on $2-3k ... now wishes he bought a used one. he will one day
>Do you remember any further details? Rocatanski - 16 Nov 2006 19:53 GMT I don't know where you are living but in the four years it took me to find the camper I liked we saw a lot of very good new campers in the base model (without fridges, built in S/S stoves , sinks etc) for under $10-12,000. On the secondhand market even more upper spec models from $7000- $14,000 my advice is take your time and look around, even in the trading post or e bay you can find a good one, I picked up a Cape York Camper 18 months old in A1 condition new price $18,000 for $9500.
> Has anyone done it? > How hard? > > I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free time > atm, start to wonder that if I am prepared to do away with the fancy > stuff, whether I can just build my own? Emjaye - 19 Nov 2006 01:37 GMT Terryc said....
> Has anyone done it? > How hard? > > I look at the prices $15-23K for a new one and having plenty of free that seems an awful lot for what's basically a 6x4 trailer with a fold out tent attached.
Or do you mean the likes of the Jayco Doves, Finches, etc.?
Kev - 19 Nov 2006 09:10 GMT > Terryc said.... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Or do you mean the likes of the Jayco Doves, Finches, etc.? There are companies selling the camper tops(fold out tents) as a unit all you do is supply your own trailer and fit it out the way you want it
the capmer tops go for $3000 - $4000 a good heavy duty Gal trailer will be around $1200 - $1500(with heavy suspension, more if you want offroad independent suspension) then you have to ad all the kitchen, storage, gas and wiring etc so you should be able to do it for around $7000
which is the price a couple of people I know paid for new complete units
Kev
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