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Gunbarrell Highway

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Garry Beattie - 20 Nov 2006 22:28 GMT
Has anyone ever travelled across this Highway?

Is there a similar track from Alice Springs across to SW Qld?

Garry
Jim - 21 Nov 2006 00:42 GMT
> Has anyone ever travelled across this Highway?
>
> Is there a similar track from Alice Springs across to SW Qld?
>
> Garry
Garry, the real Gun goes from Wiluna through to Warberton. The old section
is unavailiable for most people as the locals impose strict conditions.
The Gun is long and corregated, but no worse than other tracks similar in
nature. Its also enjoyable if you take your time.
Yes, the Plenty Highway runs from the Alice through to Boulia. A nice 2 day
drive (can be done in one if you're keen) unless it's wet. Stopping
overnight at Tobermary (green grass !) or Jarvois (bit more basic) and a
visit to Gemtree are recommended)
Garry Beattie - 21 Nov 2006 08:54 GMT
Hi Jim.

Thanks for the information.
I was hoping more of an Alice to Birdsville road but I don't think one
exists.

I just looked up the Plenty Highway, from Alice to Boulia, on my T4A map and
had a good look.

Is the road reasonable. By that I mean is it 4wd only or 4WD recommended??
We have a 100 series Landcruiser so its not a big issue, but I prefer not to
go too "extreme"!!!

Is there accommodation at Tobermorey or is it  camping only?
Is there anything at Jervois or the Marshal River?
What about the Harts Range Police?

I have been to Boulia before. A very nice town.

Best regards

Garry

>> Has anyone ever travelled across this Highway?
>>
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> overnight at Tobermary (green grass !) or Jarvois (bit more basic) and a
> visit to Gemtree are recommended)
Jim - 21 Nov 2006 21:38 GMT
> Hi Jim.
>
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>
> Garry
Hi Gary, you can always hop down to Mt Dare and across the Simpson if you
are that keen :))

Boulia to Birdsville is only a 1 day trip. (If you must go through
Birdsville...out through Winton is touristy and tar :)

Is the Plenty reasonable ? Like any track it depends. After rain, no.
Otherwise expect corregations, stones, some deepish bulldust patches on the
Qld side etc. It's not extreme in the slightest, but certainly a road to
take two spare tyres on. It has a reputation for doing tyres, as many run
high pressures with big loads and high speeds. Personally I've only lost one
tyre in about 8 trips across.

Tobermary has some cabins but I'd book beforehand. Not sure about Jarvois,
but the "shop" and campground is pretty basic.

Tobermary is much nicer,  in my opinion. Harts Range Police ? Yep, there's a
constable and a sidekick and about six or eight cells there :)) Gemtree is
another spot to stay, quite civilized if you're into rocks etc.

Cheers
Jim
Garry Beattie - 21 Nov 2006 21:56 GMT
>> Hi Jim.
>>
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> Cheers
> Jim

Thanks for the extra information Jim.

I don't need to go through Birdsville, but I thought it would have been a
nice circuit trip from Bundaberg across to Longreach, Boulia and Alice
Springs, Ayers Rock then back through Birdsville, Charleville and home.

I don't mind desert tracks at all and extremes like that do not phase me at
all, I just don't want to be crawling along over bumps and holes, in 4WD,
for a thousand K's at a time.

Years ago, as a 16 year old, I was lucky enough to travel down the Tanami
Track from Halls Creek to Alice Springs and loved it. The road was very
sandy, but not all that rough from memory (1974).
It is those sorts of trips I would like to do again without shaking the crap
out of the car!!

Incidentally, how often can you see the Min Min Lights near Boulia, or is it
just a myth??

Garry
Barnsey - 22 Nov 2006 04:08 GMT
>  Incidentally, how often can you see the Min Min Lights near Boulia, or is
> it just a myth??
>
> Garry

When I worked in Mt Isa, I went down to Boulia for the Camel Races. Mass
alcohol abuse with camels in there somewhere. We drove back at night time,
watching out for these min min things, but none sighted.

I recall seeing a documentary on the ABC about them. There is an obscure
meteorological explanation for them .........which I can't recall.

So no, it's not a myth. But they're not alien space craft either
Jim - 22 Nov 2006 04:25 GMT
>>> Hi Jim.
>>>
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>
> Garry
Gary, I've never seen them, but I've spoken to people who swear that they
have. A guy from Qld Uni has done research that suggests that they are car
and truck lights being refracted from hundreds of K away . Best time is
winter, still morning /cold night and a nice warm day beforehand I believe.
Take a peek here for my near encounter of the min min kind :
http://home.iprimus.com.au/jimshire/Yarns/minmin.html
If you want to see a nice trip go here.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/jimshire/pix.html

Cheers
Jim
Jim - 22 Nov 2006 04:31 GMT
>>>> Hi Jim.
>>>>
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> Cheers
> Jim
Also the main pix on this page are from the same trip...no not advertising ,
just good pix :))
http://home.iprimus.com.au/jimshire/

Cheers
Jim
Garry Beattie - 22 Nov 2006 11:10 GMT
Great photo's Jim.

And the hire prices for your radios seem quite good too!!!!

I think if I do the trip I will have to call on you before hand!!

Garry
Jim - 22 Nov 2006 21:36 GMT
> Great photo's Jim.
>
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>
> Garry
Thanks Gary. I didn't bring attention to that page to advertise anything,
just thought the pix gave a bit of a feeling of what it's really like "out
there".
Thankfully, you can't buy stickers saying you've been because no one has the
slightest idea of where it is :)))))))
Cheers
Jim
atec77 - 22 Nov 2006 05:30 GMT
>>>> Hi Jim.
>>>>
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> Cheers
> Jim

I doubt his findings . I saw them years ago and can tell you the travel
bears no relationship to the direction of the road .( there were 4 of us
at 3 am so it wasn't drugs or drink)on bikes
Jim - 22 Nov 2006 07:52 GMT
>>>>> Hi Jim.
>>>>>
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> bears no relationship to the direction of the road .( there were 4 of us
> at 3 am so it wasn't drugs or drink)on bikes

So exactly where where you when you saw them ?
Roger - 21 Nov 2006 03:46 GMT
> Has anyone ever travelled across this Highway?
>
> Is there a similar track from Alice Springs across to SW Qld?
>
> Garry

The Gun was theoretically a road which connected Woomera in
South Australia to a point about 170kms South of Broome on the
WA coast. The main road had so many side tracks cut into the
bush that its doubtful that all of these were ever part of the original
survey by Len Beadell.

Do a weblookup on Len Beadell and the Gun Barrel Highway and
you'll get a lot of hits about recent trips. Beadell's daughter runs tours
into SA/WA border areas.

ABC Shops are selling a CD of one of Len Beadell's talks "Too long
in the Bush" - its an eye opener about outback "travel" in the 1950s.
Jim - 21 Nov 2006 04:38 GMT
> The Gun was theoretically a road which connected Woomera in
> South Australia to a point about 170kms South of Broome on the
> WA coast. The main road had so many side tracks cut into the
> bush that its doubtful that all of these were ever part of the original
> survey by Len Beadell.
That's interesting, given that Len named some of these "minor side tracks"
after his wife and kids. The only current minor one I can think of is the
Callawa Track but only because the Kidson was put in by oil people. A case
could be made for the Gary Junction Highway, as much of the old track has
been bypassed by the telecom track (but its still referred to as the
GJT...or by the locals as the Desert Road on the WA side).
AFAIK the original survey for the rocket range included such tracks.
Garry Beattie - 21 Nov 2006 09:03 GMT
> The Gun was theoretically a road which connected Woomera in
> South Australia to a point about 170kms South of Broome on the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> ABC Shops are selling a CD of one of Len Beadell's talks "Too long
> in the Bush" - its an eye opener about outback "travel" in the 1950s.

I actually thought the Gunbarrell Highway was put in to run from a town near
Kalgoorlie up to the air force tracking station at Giles (now a BOM weather
station) and onto a couple of rocket launching pads belonging to the Air
Force, as well as the Maralinga Nuclear test site. I could be wrong about
that as I am not very familia with it at all.
It has since been replaced by the Great Central Road??????

It certainly sounds like a great way to cross Australia.

Garry
tony@altavista.com - 21 Nov 2006 13:43 GMT
>> The Gun was theoretically a road which connected Woomera in
>> South Australia to a point about 170kms South of Broome on the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>Garry

Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
maps etc. There are also quite a few sections showing fuel used etc
etc.
Garry Beattie - 21 Nov 2006 21:44 GMT
> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
> maps etc. There are also quite a few sections showing fuel used etc
> etc.

Will do, thanks.
Garry Beattie - 22 Nov 2006 06:47 GMT
>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
>> maps etc. There are also quite a few sections showing fuel used etc
>> etc.

Hmmmm. Make sure when you type in exploreoz.com.au that you actually type in
www.exploreoz.com.au otherwise you keep getting redirected to an aluminium
Extrusion advertisement!!

Garry
Jim - 22 Nov 2006 07:58 GMT
There's no "e" in it, apparetly nobody did a spell check when they
registered the name:))
The URL is http://www.exploroz.com/Splash.asp

Cheers
Jim

>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
>>> maps etc. There are also quite a few sections showing fuel used etc
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>
> Garry
tony@altavista.com - 22 Nov 2006 15:23 GMT
>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thats why I left the e out of Exploroz.com.au

>>> maps etc. There are also quite a few sections showing fuel used etc
>>> etc.
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>
>Garry
Garry Beattie - 23 Nov 2006 04:45 GMT
>>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Thats why I left the e out of Exploroz.com.au

I just copied and pasted so the advertisement must work without the e as
well.
If you type in the extra www at the front this stops it and sends you to the
correct page.

Garry
Gerrit 't Hart - 23 Nov 2006 04:59 GMT
> >>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
> >                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Thats why I left the e out of Exploroz.com.au
>
> I just copied and pasted so the advertisement must work without the e as
> well.

It ONLY works without the "e"

Gerrit
tony@altavista.com - 23 Nov 2006 06:06 GMT
>>>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
>>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>
>Garry

Ohhhh  ! now I see what you mean...

Sorry, but I did'nt write the www. as I had thought that would be
obvious...
Garry Beattie - 23 Nov 2006 18:39 GMT
>>>>>> Go to Exploroz.com.au and look up the trek notes which will show you
>>>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> Sorry, but I did'nt write the www. as I had thought that would be
> obvious...

No drama. I wasn't complaining.
These days, with the internet, 90% of the time you don't have to put the www
in anymore.

You can just type in the actual address and it works as most web browsers
will automatically configure it with the http:// and www.

Try it sometime.

Garry
Roger - 21 Nov 2006 19:23 GMT
> > The Gun was theoretically a road which connected Woomera in
> > South Australia to a point about 170kms South of Broome on the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Garry

The original road network was put in for the Woomera rocket range to
collect visual data and the bits that fell off the rockets. The major side
tracks had high speed cameras tracking the rockets, the minor tracks
were just cut when needed to recover bits of rocket.

Giles was put in after it was decided to use Maralinga - they wanted to
make sure the radioactive fallout fell somewhere other than on them.

Rumour has it that the parents of our present politicians were used to
test the outcomes of radioactivity on human and non human life. The
tests seemed to have failed totally on the humans and been very
successful on the non humans.
Jim - 21 Nov 2006 19:59 GMT
> Rumour has it that the parents of our present politicians were used to
> test the outcomes of radioactivity on human and non human life. The
> tests seemed to have failed totally on the humans and been very
> successful on the non humans.

Roger, why so cynical ? Our present pollies are hell bent on making this
country one radioactive dump site anyway !
Some of the proposed sites are even on tourist routes around the Alice. Glow
in the dark tourism, should be a big money spinner for the lobbyists. And
think of all those wonderful new buildings we'll be getting so we can run
our air con and lights.
Nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong...
Ever seen a new clear power plant ? I've seen a few and frankly they even
LOOK scary. Imagine if the one in your backyard is a Friday special, staffed
by the kind of people who often make the front page for their anti social
behaviour.
Not one mention of geo thermal power production or other less glowbie
technologies.
Nobody was interested when I suggested that the site of the old Parliament
House was ideal for a new plant or waste dump.
I wonder why ?
Garry Beattie - 21 Nov 2006 21:47 GMT
> Nobody was interested when I suggested that the site of the old Parliament
> House was ideal for a new plant or waste dump.
> I wonder why ?

That's because there is enough crap there already, they did not want to make
it worse!!!

Garry
 
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