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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / November 2006

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Test Drove the new Prado Diesel

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LiveFreeAndRoam - 23 Nov 2006 23:12 GMT
The specs say 127kW and 410NM.  That brings their diesel up to date with the
Pathfinder, on paper at least, but still lacks against other like-minded
4x4s.

The test drive was pretty much as expected.  Same old Prado in every other
respect, but with a new and more powerful common-rail diesel.  On my test
drive road-circuit, it was impossible to guage just how much of a difference
this new engine will make to the driving experience... presumably it will
make a difference off-road.

My first impression, as I pulled out of the dealership, was that it's engine
was a little noisier than the previous diesel.  Of course, this was entirely
subjective, and I would have liked to have test driven an older diesel just
to check, but they had no old diesels on the yard - sold out!  The salesman
quickly interjected, explaining that this new common-rail diesel ought to be
quieter than the previous diesel.  That left me wondering if Toyota have
skimped on noise-deadening material between the engine-bay and the cabin?
That would be a typical cost-saving trade-off of a manufacturer.  Then
again, it may have just been my imagination.

The other thing that surprised me was that the new diesel commands an
additional $2,600!  Ouch!  I was expecting a small price hike, but $2,600
sounds like robbery.  I'm hoping this price hike is just for the
early-adopters (who just gotta have it at any price).  I'm not an early
adopter, but timing is such that I would like to replace my vehicle in the
not too distant future.  Maybe Toyota pricing is more reasonable after the
early-adopter period is over?

Cheers,
LFaR.
Nige - 24 Nov 2006 08:30 GMT
> My first impression, as I pulled out of the dealership, was that it's engine
> was a little noisier than the previous diesel.

Interesting, cause we have 2 older (90/95 series) Prados in the
(extended) family and both aren't the quietist things but when I test
drove a recent (not the new one) Diesel I thought it was even noisier
than those and rough as guts at idle.  As an auto it was so slow off the
mark I decided I couldn't live with it in the city where it's going to
be used 90-95% of it's life, and bought a petrol.  I'm happy to wear the
extra fuel (but less servicing).

> The other thing that surprised me was that the new diesel commands an
> additional $2,600!  Ouch!  I was expecting a small price hike, but $2,600
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> not too distant future.  Maybe Toyota pricing is more reasonable after the
> early-adopter period is over?

2,600 over what? RRP?  They were advertising them recently as $47K drive
away, but RRP's (+ on roads) a way lot more than that.

Cheers, Nige
LiveFreeAndRoam - 24 Nov 2006 11:13 GMT
>As an auto it was so slow off the mark I decided I couldn't live with it in
>the city where it's going to

The new TD auto is also no cheetah.  For city driving, I would say that it
is adequate for a TD.  I can't compare it with the Petrol variant.

>> The other thing that surprised me was that the new diesel commands an
>> additional $2,600!  Ouch!  I was expecting a small price hike, but $2,600
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> 2,600 over what? RRP?  They were advertising them recently as $47K drive
> away, but RRP's (+ on roads) a way lot more than that.

That was the RRP and as I wasn't at the point of haggling, I realise the
prices are fictitious.  The breakdown that I have on paper is:

 Dealer Delivery:  $1,540.91
 Prado 3.0 TD Auto GXL (2007 spec): $52,270.71  (includes $272.73 for
metallic paint)
 Rego Fee: $264.35
 GST: $308.80
 Luxury Car Tax: $111.09
----------------------------
 TOTAL: $59,300.02

(It might be interesting to learn what prices others are seeing.)

There's an awful lot of room between $47K and $59K, even when accounting for
the new engine price hike.  Also, I am told that the old diesel powered
Prados were being sold off with >$5K discounts during Oct.  Though even that
doesn't account for the $12K difference here.

Cheers,
LFaR.
Gerrit 't Hart - 24 Nov 2006 14:18 GMT
> That was the RRP and as I wasn't at the point of haggling, I realise the
> prices are fictitious.  The breakdown that I have on paper is:
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>  ----------------------------
>   TOTAL: $59,300.02

What?

No state stamp duty?

Gerrit
Scotty - 24 Nov 2006 19:43 GMT
> >As an auto it was so slow off the mark I decided I couldn't live with it
> >in the city where it's going to
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> Cheers,
> LFaR.

At what point does luxury tax creep in?
LiveFreeAndRoam - 25 Nov 2006 05:15 GMT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com>
Newsgroups: aus.cars.offroad
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: Test Drove the new Prado Diesel

> At what point does luxury tax creep in?

$57,009, I believe.  Though, I'm no expert either.

LFaR.
 
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