I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV", a Mazda Tribute. Primarily
it will be used for normal roadwork and for towing a camper van, such as
a Jayco Swan.
My sister and brother in law own a ridgy didge 4WD (Landcruiser). I was
wondering how the standard Tribute would go off road, and in particular,
how FAR offroad would it be good for if I go away on trips with them, or
anyone else, for that matter.
Thanks
I thought the Tribute was a wagon? f.ck all to do with a Utility
vehicle.
>I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV",
BrianM - 03 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
> I thought the Tribute was a wagon? f.ck all to do with a Utility
> vehicle.
>
>>I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV",
It is a wagon with 4wd & AWD capabilities. the SUV is the trendy
buzzword used by advertising. Being an owner, I would class it as
a sporty softroad vehicle.
cheers

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Emjaye - 06 Dec 2006 16:25 GMT
Biggus said....
> I thought the Tribute was a wagon? f.ck all to do with a Utility
> vehicle.
>
>>I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV",
It's what they're now calling them. Sport Utility Vehicle doesn't
necessarily mean that it's a ute. It's a US term. They call their utes
something different over there.
Please note the inverted commas around the two terms used above. It
denotes that I don't necessarily follow the convention. Sort of like
using the term "sic".
Biggus - 07 Dec 2006 08:38 GMT
>> . It's a US term.
so.... what country are we in?
Scotty - 07 Dec 2006 08:51 GMT
>>> . It's a US term.
>
> so.... what country are we in?
us.cars.offorad = SUV's and Pickups
aus.cars.offroad= Softroaders and Utes.
Biggus - 07 Dec 2006 12:02 GMT
:)
f.ck I hate the way scum US terminology is taking over our country...
>us.cars.offorad = SUV's and Pickups
>aus.cars.offroad= Softroaders and Utes.
BrianM - 07 Dec 2006 21:36 GMT
> :)
> f.ck I hate the way scum US terminology is taking over our country...
>
>>us.cars.offorad = SUV's and Pickups
>>aus.cars.offroad= Softroaders and Utes.
You can add it to other Americanism's adopted by this country e.g.
"Bucks" party. A buck is an American male deer, in the English-type
countries of Australia and NZ a male deer is a "Stag". In NZ it is called a
"Stag" party.
Removalist is another one. Find a service and add "ist" to it. It used
to be "Remover" or "Furniture remover"
Some more: a.shole as against arsehole, butt as against arse/bum.
The sheer amount of American sitcoms on TV has a lot to do with it.
"SUV" is a buzzword, makes it sound chic and sporty. Can you imagine
Batman and Robin saying "Hey! the bad guys are escaping in that black
UTE" ?
cheers

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werdan - 07 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
> You can add it to other Americanism's adopted by this country e.g.
> "Bucks" party. A buck is an American male deer, in the English-type
> countries of Australia and NZ a male deer is a "Stag". In NZ it is called
> a
> "Stag" party.
The first time I remember hearing the term 'Stag party' (actually 'Stag
night') was on M.A.S.H in the early 80's. It's always been 'Bucks night'
here.
> Removalist is another one. Find a service and add "ist" to it. It used
> to be "Remover" or "Furniture remover"
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> Batman and Robin saying "Hey! the bad guys are escaping in that black
> UTE" ?
That's African-American ute, mate. You can't call them black. ;-)
pavement instead of footpath.
Trashcan instead of rubbish bin.
The worst thing is it is usually your kids that you hear saying them too.
ARRGH!!
BrianM - 08 Dec 2006 05:21 GMT
>> You can add it to other Americanism's adopted by this country e.g.
>> "Bucks" party. A buck is an American male deer, in the English-type
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> The worst thing is it is usually your kids that you hear saying them
> too. ARRGH!!
ban them from watching sitcoms.

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> I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV", a Mazda Tribute. Primarily
> it will be used for normal roadwork and for towing a camper van, such as
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>
> Thanks
it's easy to tell how far offroad it will go
when it stops that's as far as it will go
you will never be able to match anything like a cruiser or Patrol
your vehicle will go ok on soft sand and some muddy/slippery tracks
and climb some steepish hills(limited by gearing and tyre grip)
all this of course without towing anything, hook on a camper and you may
as well just stick to the road
Don't expect miracles
when you get sick of watching your sis/BIL dissapearing into the scrub
you can then upgrade to something that is much more capable
Kev
Emjaye - 06 Dec 2006 16:30 GMT
Kev said....
> it's easy to tell how far offroad it will go
> when it stops that's as far as it will go
Yeah, well, that goes without saying.
> you will never be able to match anything like a cruiser or Patrol
> your vehicle will go ok on soft sand and some muddy/slippery tracks
> and climb some steepish hills(limited by gearing and tyre grip)
> all this of course without towing anything, hook on a camper and you may
> as well just stick to the road
Not interested in towing anything offroad. The vehicle's primary purpose
is road transport. I was curious as to its off-road performance if I
ever get the chance to head bush, as it were.
> when you get sick of watching your sis/BIL dissapearing into the scrub
> you can then upgrade to something that is much more capable
Not interested in that, as I said previously. All I asked was for
opinions on what this class of vehicle is like offroad.
> I recently purchased my first "4WD" or "SUV", a Mazda Tribute. Primarily
> it will be used for normal roadwork and for towing a camper van, such as
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>
> Thanks
Hi Emjaye.
I have a Tribute V6. The limitations are clearance and lack of low ratio.
If you look under the back, you will see how low the rods are and how
vunerable to damage. They will handle dirt and shingle roads with ease .
Having said that I'm taking mine through the Birdsville Track and other
side roads in the area next winter; you just have to be aware of the
limitations and take it
easy. Mine is fitted with Bridgestone AT tyres. Grille guard and
driving lights yet to be installed. Thats as much as I want to put on
it. For tyre improvement, I recommend either Simex Road Trekkers, Simex
AT 300i, or Bridgestone AT's in 235/70R16. Your Dueler HT roadies are a good
tyre but the others are so much better.
The Tribby won't go where the Landcruiser will, but it will beat the hell
out of it on sand (tyres down to 12-14psi) because of its lighter weight
I would suggest you go out with the cruiser as backup and try some quiet
driving offroad, so you can get the feel of it, but do give AT tyres some
serious thought. The Simex brand cost approx $150-160 each and the
Bridgestones add $100.
hope this helps
cheers
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BrianM
Emjaye - 06 Dec 2006 17:41 GMT
BrianM said....
> I have a Tribute V6. The limitations are clearance and lack of low ratio.
> If you look under the back, you will see how low the rods are and how
> vunerable to damage. They will handle dirt and shingle roads with ease .
> Having said that I'm taking mine through the Birdsville Track and other
> side roads in the area next winter; you just have to be aware of the
> limitations and take it
I think that I'd probably stick to dry and established bush tracks if I
were to go "offroad". You know, firetrails etc..
Anyway, there's the issue about being ALLOWED to venture offroad.
Recently, we followed the trusty Tom Tom One's instructions when
navigating from Lilydale in Melbourne's east to Pakenham, about 60 km
east of MEL on the Princes Highway. The GPS took us onto a dirt road
that's accessed by locals and is suitable for normal traffic. SWMBO
thought that we were heading into the outback, such is her exposure to
offroading and the bush in general. She's a city slicker of the highest
order...
Then recently, I parked on a grass area at a funeral parlor. When
leaving, I drove up a small embankment, and the car was on a bit of an
angle. She sh.t herself, thinking that the car, with a 10 deg angle, at
the most, was gonna flip over...
So, yeah, the chances of real offroad excursions in the Tribute are
probably unlikely...
werdan - 07 Dec 2006 23:15 GMT
> I think that I'd probably stick to dry and established bush tracks if I
> were to go "offroad". You know, firetrails etc..
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> So, yeah, the chances of real offroad excursions in the Tribute are
> probably unlikely...
They aren't called handbrakes for nothing.