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Scotty - 09 Apr 2007 13:11 GMT Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie and was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and the Double Island point track is impassable at present and the locals say its gunna be years before its reopened. Its the first time that Ive done the freshwater track and it was great, no real 4x4ing involved (Mostly done in 2WD and Im sure I couldve done it all in 2wd but I didnt want to dig the track up) but a beautiful sand forest track thats around 15kms long.
I did however make one mistake, I tackeled the 40kms of beach from Tewantan (spelling) to Rainbow at high tide (Frig doing that again!!). very hard going but the 4runner never complained (Although she started smelling a tad hot at the 30Km mark). Fuel consumption from Tewantan to Rainbow 29l/100kms, the return trip was 12.5l/100km.
Highway trip home was 11l/100km so the way to go for me next time is definately LOW TIDE!
I didnt realise either that the wreck of the Cherry Venture had been removed. Pity I had me ole man with me to check it out, never mind Im sure that there will be more wrecks there before I depart this world.
All in all a fun day but kinda wish that Id got to do the Double Island point from both sides, oh well next time.
Hope you all got out and about at Easter and the hoons/drunks didnt ruin it for you.
Cheers
Scotty
Kev - 09 Apr 2007 17:35 GMT > Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie and > was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Scotty Yeah we found out the beach on the nothern end of the Leisha track gone, we did however get past those few trees at the bottom of the tide, you just have to time it between waves
If you want to see a beack wreck the Maheno is still on Fraser Island
now here is some disturbing news some fuckwit greenie dickheads are lobbying the Govt to have the beach closed to all vehicles and the local businesses are having to go and fight it, they seem to think that these green losers might just have a win
Kev
P. - 10 Apr 2007 12:42 GMT >> Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie >> and was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Kev I work for the govt department responsible for these beaches and all I can say is mount up your pens fella's and start writing your local MP. Trust me when I say that a number of players have it in their sites to close off as much of the beach (including Fraser) as they can. For example the madness about closing Hook Point on Fraser. Police are against, as is every sensible person there is.
There is a vocal anti-4wd lobby out there and they want these vehicles gone period. From the bitumen and the sand.
Makes me wanna vomit.
P.
Viviane - 10 Apr 2007 13:07 GMT I thought that Hervey Bay Council had decided to close the Fraser Island beach road and force people to use the inland road for the first 11km from Hook Point. Don't know when it's due to take effect. The inland road was dreadful when we used it on our last trip (we arrived during a king high tide) and suffice it to say that we'll never complain about Sydney roads again!
I wrote to everyone I could think of (council, state and federal MPs, tourism bodies, road lobby etc) and got very little response - indicating either an incredible apathy or it was a done deal.
>>> Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie >>> and was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > P. Kev - 10 Apr 2007 21:04 GMT >>>Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie >>>and was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > P. With so much of QLDs income coming from tourism you would have to wonder why they would let such a thing happen, People and towns going bust, Rainbow Beach and Hervey Bay are nothing without the beach access
Kev
Terryc - 11 Apr 2007 13:03 GMT > With so much of QLDs income coming from tourism you would have to wonder > why they would let such a thing happen, Well, simple, a town makes more money from tourism if people are forced to use your services (e.g. pay for tours, etc).
Lushy - 11 Apr 2007 17:08 GMT >> With so much of QLDs income coming from tourism you would have to >> wonder why they would let such a thing happen, > > Well, simple, a town makes more money from tourism if people are > forced to use your services (e.g. pay for tours, etc). Its the F - Wit factor of the 4x4 community that bring a bad name to 4x4's tearing up tracks and beachs just for the heck of it, here in Victoria so many tracks have been closed because of this behavour, so it is up to the rest of us to get behind the clubs and associations to keep these tracks open. The situation in NSW is even worse as many more tracks have been closed too. Tread gently - leave the bog holes alone. Lushy
P. - 14 Apr 2007 23:15 GMT >>> Finally took the 4runner out for a run up to Rainbow Beach from Brissie >>> and was quite surprised that the sands all gone on the Rainbow side and [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > P. This is a reply that was passed to me by a contact when enquiries were made to as why Hook Point was being closed.
Things to note: No significant upgrade has been made to the track; the birds in question are migratory, don't nest on the beach and are not on any endangered list; and finally there is no fresh water for camping at that end.
Ref: BNE7195-2
BNE2007/4001
E/07/00901
5 April 2007
Mr Robert *********
Dear Mr Anderson
I refer to your e-mail of 8 February 2007 to the Honourable Margaret Keech MP, Minister for Tourism, Fair Trading, Wine Industry Development and Women, concerning the proposed beach closure to vehicles from the Hook Point barge landing to 18 kms north on Fraser Island. Ms Keech has referred the issue to the Minister for Environment and Multiculturalism for response.
The closure to vehicles of a section of the southern beach on Fraser Island is a key desired outcome of the Great Sandy Region Management Plan 1994-2010. This is a Cabinet approved management plan that is the product of extensive community consultation.
Under the Management Plan, removal of traffic from this 18 km section of beach will provide significant social, recreation and conservation outcomes. Visitors, especially families, will be able to enjoy a section of Fraser Island's eastern beach free from the worry or intrusion of motor vehicles. This section of beach is also a recognised roosting site for migratory wader birds, and their survival will be significantly enhanced by the cessation of vehicle use. Moreover, it will provide the only opportunity for low key, offbeach camping adjacent to a traffic-free beach on the east coast of Fraser Island, as recommended in the Fraser Island Camping Management Plan.
Given the size of Fraser Island and the significant area of other beaches available for vehicle use, the closure of this small section of beach is considered reasonable to cater for the full spectrum of Fraser Island users.
In order to meet the Management Plan objective of closing the beach 18 kms northwards from Hook Point, the Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service (QPWS) has upgraded the old mining road, which runs parallel to the beach, to a standard allowing safe travel for the forecasted volume of traffic.
An independent and expert road safety review of the upgraded Hook Point Road has been conducted and has confirmed that required standards have been met. New directional and safety signage has been installed and the speed limit along the road is a maximum of 50kph, although drivers should adjust their speed according to prevailing conditions. By comparison, the recommended speed limit on the remaining network of over 700 kms of Fraser Island inland roads is 35kph. The Police have agreed to conduct speed checks to monitor and improve compliance.
The majority of serious vehicle accidents on Fraser Island occur on the eastern beach due to higher speeds, an unstable and dynamic surface and driver inexperience of beach driving conditions. The QPWS will continue to permit emergency services personnel, vehicles and aircraft to access the most suitable safe sites in close proximity to any emergency incident.
The Minister hopes this information is of assistance. If any further information is required, please contact Greg Walker of the Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service on telephone 4121 1990.
Yours sincerely
Ross MacLeod
Senior Policy Advisor
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Minister for Environment and Multiculturalism
PO Box 15155
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Kev - 15 Apr 2007 13:51 GMT Gotta love the way the Govt etc think close it off so the people can enjoy it
Kev
Theo - 02 Jun 2007 13:10 GMT > now here is some disturbing news > some fuckwit greenie dickheads are lobbying the Govt to have the beach > closed to all vehicles and the local businesses are having to go and > fight it, they seem to think that these green losers might just have a win I'm wondering what the "fuckwit greenie dickheads'" argument is. There needs to be some beach access, but I also think [as a regular Inskip user and keen four wheel driver myself] things have gotten out of hand.
As far as Inskip goes there is a perfectly good road up the point just about all the way to the barge. I believe that beautiful stretch of beach where the campsites are should not be a thoroughfare. The traffic [and speeding] is ridiculous. I have seen too many near misses, many of them kids.
As far as Fraser goes, It's difficult to say how the traffic should be managed. From an environmental perspective having the trucks on the beach may well be a smarter option than having them flying around in the bush. That said, I am sure there are beach animals [turtles maybe] that are suffering.
I think 4*4 use should be discouraged but not outlawed. Anyone tried hiking instead of 4*4'ing? I have done both extensively and have to say, hiking over and around Fraser is beautiful. I'd rather be doing it the simpler, cheaper, healthier way and knowing I'm not impacting the beautiful environment I have come to enjoy in the first place.
My 2c.
Kev - 02 Jun 2007 14:24 GMT >> now here is some disturbing news >> some fuckwit greenie dickheads are lobbying the Govt to have the beach [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > bush. That said, I am sure there are beach animals [turtles maybe] that > are suffering. I have seen some people who are just plain stupid and ignorant, one was the guy fishing in a spot where the beach was quite narrow, he had his 4WD parked on the upper side and he was sitting in his chair at the water edge, the gap between him and his 4WD was the width of a car, this caused the biggest bottle neck and the dickhead was abusing anyone who said anything to him he was just plain stupid, as the sand was very soft(although wet) and anyone who has driven on soft sand knows how hard it is to keep the vehicle straight, maybe a 33x16 BFG across his head would have given him a clue
> I think 4*4 use should be discouraged but not outlawed. Anyone tried > hiking instead of 4*4'ing? I have done both extensively and have to say, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > My 2c. the hiking is good "if" you are there just to enjoy the forsts etc., but there are a large number who go there for the fishing and relaxing away from home and work
lots of suggestions that people whould hike into the camping spots, but lets look at that 4 cartons of beer enough ice for a week(for beer) 6kg of steak 3 cartons of eggs 10kg of pillys enough ice for a week(for pillys) 4 surf rods
it'd take a week(and 4 more cartons of beer and associated ice) just to carry all that to the camp spot
:) Kev
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