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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / June 2007

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Lancriser Troopy Diesel

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Simon Dillon - 09 May 2007 13:15 GMT
Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?

Thanks
Biggus..... - 09 May 2007 14:08 GMT
Kev - 10 May 2007 19:50 GMT
> Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
> Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
>
> Thanks

4 Litre 2H 6 cyl indirect injection diesel
they ar a tough and long lasting engine
but very lacking in power
work well with a set of extractors or even better a turbo

the early 90s they were replaced by the 1Hz 4.2Litre diesel

Kev
jonz - 15 Jun 2007 07:10 GMT
>> Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>> Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
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>
> the early 90s they were replaced by the 1Hz 4.2Litre diesel

  hi,kev any thoughts on the 3.6l 1h engine? i have an fj40 with this
motor,( yeah i know :^)  ) and very lacking in power sounds like it :^)
i`ve always had landys, 11a petrol shorty softtop presently, to
decide.........landy or toyota.......is the problem, cant keep `em all
:^(  i hear parts are getting scarce, and pricey for the h. would like stay
with the diesel, tho. so i can run on homebrew.........j

> Kev
Kev - 16 Jun 2007 17:50 GMT
>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>>>Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> :^(  i hear parts are getting scarce, and pricey for the h. would like stay
> with the diesel, tho. so i can run on homebrew.........j

Hmmm
is it a 40 or 45
the 40s had the "B" engine, 4cyl 3L and later 3B 3.4L(there was also a
light duty LJ40, these had the 2L 2.4L diesel engine and Hilux running gear)
the 45s and 55s had the 6 cyl "H" engine
All Toyotas models have the engine in their number
and their model number will tell you what you have
so a HJ45 would be
H= H diesel engine, J= Landcruiser, 45= Body type
the turbo 60s were HTJ60
mine is a HZJ105, Hz diesel Landcruiser 100 series standard wagon

the old H engine is getting on in years and may not have been a popular
engine due to the fact that petrol wasn't that expensive so spares for
the H may not be easy to find

The H could always be swapped for a 2H, these engines were very popular
and powered everything from utes, troopys(late 45 and early 75 series)
and 60series wagons

Kev
jonz - 17 Jun 2007 03:35 GMT
>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>>>>Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> and powered everything from utes, troopys(late 45 and early 75 series) and
> 60series wagons

    kev, thanks for the info., i`m a very recent convert to toyota, all of
four weeks in fact  :^)..... not a planned move but the old girl was cheap,
and is definately more comfortable than the landie (must be getting old) i
should have been clearer in my post....the h motor was installed by the po,
it had the petrol engine previously afaik. it`s registered with the diesel
in it. the motor feels underpowered, with no legs, the old drive it like you
hate it adage comes to mind  :^)  but in respect to the age of the thing,
ive been taking it easy.....i will check the injectors, and maybe fiddle
with the timing..but maybe its just the way there engines are ??  also, on
first startup of the day, i glow it for 10-15 seconds and it starts on first
turn of the crank, but, for at least a minute, it runs really rough, with
enough (fuel) smoke coming out of it to kill every mozzie for miles
around........but every subsequent start is ok. 5sec., glow and no smoke.
crook glow plug(s) maybe ? gotta fix it or the neighbors will be calling the
epa  :^)

                       cheers john

> Kev
Blue  Heeler - 17 Jun 2007 03:52 GMT
for at least a minute, it runs
> really rough, with enough (fuel) smoke coming out of it to kill every
> mozzie for miles around........but every subsequent start is ok.
> 5sec., glow and no smoke. crook glow plug(s) maybe ? gotta fix it or
> the neighbors will be calling the epa  :^)

The fact that subsquent starts are OK points to one or more crook
glowplugs.

But, it could also be a dribbly injector, in which case one day you
might have horrid things happen to it if left unfixed.

Glowplugs of reasonabke quality are available on eBay, with injectors
it is cheaper to buy a reman set from someone who does them properly
and in bulk than it is to pay your local shop to do them. The local guy
may or may not do a good job, but will be double the price.

I personally recommend Noordman diesel in Perth - they have depots
around the country and deliver fast....

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jonz - 17 Jun 2007 04:18 GMT
> for at least a minute, it runs
>> really rough, with enough (fuel) smoke coming out of it to kill every
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> But, it could also be a dribbly injector, in which case one day you
> might have horrid things happen to it if left unfixed.

   the noise it makes creates mental pictures of nasty happenings  :^)  a
chamber(S) full of raw fuel.....a mate of mine has an injector tester, so
will check `em out......the glowplugs will be checked today

> Glowplugs of reasonabke quality are available on eBay, with injectors
> it is cheaper to buy a reman set from someone who does them properly
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I personally recommend Noordman diesel in Perth - they have depots
> around the country and deliver fast....

  thanks for your input, much appreciated
                                                           cheers john
Kev - 17 Jun 2007 15:42 GMT
>>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>>>>>Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
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> crook glow plug(s) maybe ? gotta fix it or the neighbors will be calling the
> epa  :^)

As the others have said sounds like a crook injector
get ya mate to check them
also a set of extractors and 2 1/2 inch exhaust will make a noticable
difference up around highway running speed
also replace the air filter, this will also make a difference if it's
old and blocked, of course the obligitory oil change will be nessasary
especially if it has a dripping injector, that raw diesel will make it's
way into the oil

Kev
jonz - 18 Jun 2007 01:25 GMT
>>>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find in
>>>>>>Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
>
> Kev

  checked glow plugs, all ok......so injectors next i guess. extractors and
bigger pipe sounds good, i can get a set off a petrol engined vehicle of
same model....maybe with the help of the red spanner and a
hammer.........................:^)  air filter is donaldson, mounted on the
guard, and is ok. can only hope any injector problem is repair rather than
replace, can only hope.... thanks for the help kev.
jonz - 25 Jun 2007 09:01 GMT
>>>>>>>Can someone give me the details of the diesel engines you will find
>>>>>>>in Troopys from the first of the 70 series in 1985 onwards?
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
> the guard, and is ok. can only hope any injector problem is repair rather
> than replace, can only hope.... thanks for the help kev.

   bit of an update, turns out to be *operator error* :^(  because it was
originally petrol, there is no edic gear fitted...............talking to the
po on the weekend, and whinging about startup smoke, he said, "are you
heating it after it starts?" revelation time........about 3 seconds glow 5
seconds off................within 30 seconds no smoke, and ready to roll,
bloody cheap fix :^)))   plus he gave me a heap of spares for the
motor....looks like bye, bye landy........hehe
 
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