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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / June 2007

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Suspension lift kit for Pajero

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aldavnic@hotmail.com - 02 Jun 2007 12:58 GMT
Has anyone had any experience with lift-kits for an NM Pajero?

I was wondering what height you could go up to without causing undue
stress on drive-line components and keeping insurance companies happy
as well!

I am not trying to create a monster truck (although that would be
fun!), just to improve clearance and compensate for camping gear,
extra fuel, etc.

Any comments appreciated!

Thanks,

Nicole.
Kev - 02 Jun 2007 14:10 GMT
> Has anyone had any experience with lift-kits for an NM Pajero?
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> Nicole.

what year is the NM??
if it still has the solid rear axle you could probably go about 2 inches
the front is the real problem
being IFS you can really only go about 1 inch, any higher and the
suspension is too hard and the front axle shaft angle starts getting too
high and stressing the CVs, the only real way to lift an IFS vehicle is
to put spacers between the front diff/suspension and the sub frame
of course this will not improve the front suspension in any way, there
isn't much you can do in that regard

but it will at least make the vehicle sit level when you lift the rear

if the NM is the all independent suspension model
but something else

Kev
Patman - 15 Jun 2007 20:59 GMT
>> Has anyone had any experience with lift-kits for an NM Pajero?
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> Kev

Kev - NM is 2000 to 2003 with IFS/IRS.

Nicole, there are lots of options for a 2" lift and even a 3" lift. The
most revered and common seems to be a combination of Lovells or Kings
springs and Bilstein shocks. All NM/NP's that I know of that regularly
head off-road have a lift kit of some sort.

We have a 2" lift in ours with Polyairs in the rear for when it is
loaded up and the aux fuel tank is full. Handling on-road is actually
slightly improved over the stock suspension and the improvement in
clearance and ramp-over angles off-road is dramatic. Well worth the
$1,000 odd dollars and not too hard to fit for the mechanically minded.
Just get a good alignment afterwards.

The only real negative in my experience is that the 2" lift is 2" off of
maximum suspension droop, meaning that it is a little more prone to
lifting wheels. If your NM has traction control then that gets around a
lot of that problem. Ours doesn't have TC but the rear LSD plus a little
bit of left-foot braking overcomes many situations with a front and a
rear wheel loosing traction

Few people have reported problems with driveline as a result of the lift
although CV angles are increased as a result. I have to admit to doing
the rear CV's in ours but that is a combination of 170,000 hard k's, a
fair bit of heavy towing and the lift.

Head on over to www.pajeroclub.com.au/forum for heaps of info.

Pat
Kev - 16 Jun 2007 17:55 GMT
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Pat why don't these kits come with a diff lowering kit to reduce the CV
angle
this model Pajero doesn't even have a seperate chassis so a body lift is out
but what about a running gear spacer kit with higher lift springs

IFS and IRS suck for offroad

Kev
Patman - 16 Jun 2007 20:49 GMT
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A drop in the diffs could be done as the diff and suspension is mounted
on a sub frame at either end. But the Paj's CV's don't seem to mind the
2" or 3" lift if you don't go too crazy on them. Most Paj CV breakages I
know of are from a fast spinning cocked wheel coming back to solid
traction. Gives them a lot of clearance under the diffs too.

Kev, have you ever driven one off-road? I'll grant you that IFS/IRS
means a lot less articulation, but combined with knowledgeable driving,
diff-locks and / or decent traction control they will still go places
that just might surprise you. Sure it's a compromise but for the little
bit you loose in off-road ability you gain a lot in on-road handling.
Ours has put a few heavily modified Landcruisers and Patrols to shame,
and it is the pre traction control model.
Kev - 16 Jun 2007 22:31 GMT
>>>>> Has anyone had any experience with lift-kits for an NM Pajero?
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> Ours has put a few heavily modified Landcruisers and Patrols to shame,
> and it is the pre traction control model.

of course they work well when they have these traction aids
but add those same aids to a vehicle with really good articulation and
you'll never keep up
there is nothing like wheels on the ground for traction

and yes I am well aware of the much better onroad performance of
independent suspensions, but I can't live with that compromise offroad

Kev
 
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