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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / December 2007Problems with Sava / Remington all terrain
I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very abnormally .. the outer and inner blocks closest to the shoulders scallop something cruel..... after about 6 months of driving they are noiser than a BFG muddie and the felt vibration is ridiculous. I'm looking at taking up the wear pattern problems with the Sava distributors...... anyone else know of any abnormal wear problems? Reason I ask is so I may ascertain if they *all* do it (IE a design problem) or only some (a one-time batch problem) > I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very abnormally > .. the outer and inner blocks closest to the shoulders scallop something [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Reason I ask is so I may ascertain if they *all* do it (IE a design problem) > or only some (a one-time batch problem) The question is in your application does the preasue need alteration ? > I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very abnormally > .. the outer and inner blocks closest to the shoulders scallop something [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Reason I ask is so I may ascertain if they *all* do it (IE a design problem) > or only some (a one-time batch problem) what pressure are you running them at?? Kev > > I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very abnormally > > .. the outer and inner blocks closest to the shoulders scallop something [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Kev I knew I'd get that question. 32 front 30 rear (placard on vehicle says 28) and the pressure is correct if you follow the 4psi rule for highway running. Anyway, if you saw the wear pattern you'd not suspect pressures!!! >>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very > abnormally [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > you follow the 4psi rule for highway running. > Anyway, if you saw the wear pattern you'd not suspect pressures!!! Are the tyres the std size ? if not then the card wont apply , what is the recommended preasure on a vehical of your size as stated by the manufacturer? if you complty with these things I expect it will be a mechanical fault if the outer edges are wearing badly . >>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very > abnormally [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > you follow the 4psi rule for highway running. > Anyway, if you saw the wear pattern you'd not suspect pressures!!! and is the wear on all 4 tyres?? Kev > >>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very > > abnormally [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Kev Kev and Atec: yep all 4 tyres, but worse on the front. Alignment is spot on, they are 31-10.5R15 which is exactly the same as std fitment though about 10mm larger dia. Std is 265/70/15 from memory. The shoulders are scalloped both inside and out... that is a bit of an indication that something is amiss.... certainly not a toe or camber problem. Thus no, it is not mechanical. From the trailing edge of one block to the leading edge of the other is about 4mm difference in height!!! As I said they are noisier than a BFG or Cooper muddie (Not super swampers obviously) and vibration can be felt right down to about 5kph if on smooth road. You can imagine what it feels like on corners at highway speeds..... Spoke to the shop, they said they'd qualify for warranty (they haven't looked at the tyres yet though) BUT it is pro rata. 50% tread = 50% refund. That is bullshit I reckon, it takes a long time for the fault to become apparent so that is whay I wish to identify other people with the same problem and hit them up for 100% as it is obviously a buggered design, or one batch of tyres with a buggered compound >>>>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very >>> abnormally [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > problem and hit them up for 100% as it is obviously a buggered design, or > one batch of tyres with a buggered compound SOunds very much like crook inflation advice. >>>>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very >>> abnormally [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > problem and hit them up for 100% as it is obviously a buggered design, or > one batch of tyres with a buggered compound Hmm maybe you should have spent the extra $75/tyre and got a better brand, lessons learnt I guess ok so what are the sidewalls like at each scalloped out section does it look rippled around the tyre sidewalls it still sounds like an inflation problem though, although 32psi isn't too low for most 4WD tyres for normal running but with these tyres maybe they needed to be up around the 40psi mark Hate for the tyre dealer to say you ran them under inflated and not give you anything back which they or the Sava rep might try on with you Kev > >>>>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very > >>> abnormally [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Kev Dudes they can't be underinflated when (1) the OE tyre was same size and running same pressure (or 2psi less) they wore normally. (2) getting a 3psi pressure increase on the highway. if they were underinflated to any degree which would cause damage, the pressure increase would be 5-6psi at least. (4psi rule) The sidewalls are normal..... as is the reat of the tyre for that matter it is just the tread blocks on inner and outer shoulder that are scalloped. > Spoke to the shop, they said they'd qualify for warranty (they haven't > looked at the tyres yet though) BUT it is pro rata. 50% tread = 50% refund. > That is bullshit I reckon, it takes a long time for the fault to become > apparent so that is whay I wish to identify other people with the same > problem and hit them up for 100% as it is obviously a buggered design, or > one batch of tyres with a buggered compound Did you see my reply about balance? It sounds exactly like what happens to out of balance truck steer tyres. I had Yokohama, Bridgestone and Michelin on an Isuzu I used to drive and the only tyres that didn't "scallop" were the Michelins, balancing the last set of Bridgestones every 20,000klms reduced the problem significantly. Daryl >> >>> I bought a set of Sava's about 18 months ago and they wear very >> > abnormally [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > problem and hit them up for 100% as it is obviously a buggered design, or > one batch of tyres with a buggered compound Sava/Remington? Never heard of them, I'm guessing they were cheap? Probably same people who used to make Kelly's and Barums. 50% refund sounds more than fair, many places will just say no way at 50%. |
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