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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / February 2008

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Hergy - 17 Jan 2008 05:33 GMT
Hi.. Any one got recomendations for suspension for my 98 diesel
troopcarrier, NOT OLD MAN EMU as the $3000 set on it has sagged over 60mm
which has pissed me off.

Hergy
Scotty - 17 Jan 2008 07:46 GMT
> Hi.. Any one got recomendations for suspension for my 98 diesel
> troopcarrier, NOT OLD MAN EMU as the $3000 set on it has sagged over 60mm
> which has pissed me off.
>
> Hergy

Sorry but no fruitful suggestions.

Can you have the OME set reset? Usually springs can be reset without to much
of a drama.  Popping into where ya got em and a few disgruntled outloud
thoughts may get a bit of sypathy in resetting the old set, dont expect
anything free if its TJM though. How many Kms did you get from the OME set?

Scotty
Hergy - 17 Jan 2008 09:32 GMT
>> Hi.. Any one got recomendations for suspension for my 98 diesel
>> troopcarrier, NOT OLD MAN EMU as the $3000 set on it has sagged over 60mm
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>
> Scotty

I got 100,000 from the original springs no sagging what soever, I bought
these OME springs from ARB and they are completely had it with only
90,000km, I am really pissed off, I rang ARB and was told buy a new set, I
know they are out of warranty but they have performed dismal, admittedly
they gave me 50mm over the old springs in height but now I'm 10mm worse off
then me originals..... Not happy at all considering I spent near 20k at ARB
and they treated me like sh.t today.

That's life I suppose.

Hergy
Scotty - 17 Jan 2008 11:15 GMT
>>> Hi.. Any one got recomendations for suspension for my 98 diesel
>>> troopcarrier, NOT OLD MAN EMU as the $3000 set on it has sagged over
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>
> Hergy
Thats not life at all, thats shitty service.  Mind you is the terrain the
same as yoru first 100,000kms? are you carrying more weight now?

Sounds like a bit poor but it all depends on exactly how much wear and tear
its had.  Id be pulling thier teeth with an angle grinder if it was
100,000kms of bitumen.
Biggus :) - 17 Jan 2008 12:02 GMT
Try Koni 90 series shocks.. AWESOME.. MASSIVE...  only $900 a pr.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/trackie389/4wding/rshock.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/trackie389/4wding/fshock.jpg

Fitted some last night to mates GU, these will not fade, fully
rebuildable, and top of the shelf quality..

Give Top Performance in Vermont Vic a call, FANTASTIC service.

They called mate to offer to reset proportioning valve for him since
he was fitting himself. They didnt have to do sh.t if they didnt want.
wavemechanic - 11 Feb 2008 11:12 GMT
> Try Koni 90 series shocks.. AWESOME.. MASSIVE...  only $900 a pr.
> http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/trackie389/4wding/rshock.jpg
> http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/trackie389/4wding/fshock.jpg
>
> Fitted some last night to mates GU, these will not fade, fully
> rebuildable, and top of the shelf quality..

Yes they're awesome, but buy them online from the states & save yourself
$$$. Including shipping. Google is your friend.
Hergy - 17 Jan 2008 21:46 GMT
>>>> Hi.. Any one got recomendations for suspension for my 98 diesel
>>>> troopcarrier, NOT OLD MAN EMU as the $3000 set on it has sagged over
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> tear its had.  Id be pulling thier teeth with an angle grinder if it was
> 100,000kms of bitumen.

Sadly due to a heart condition of the kids 80,000 or so was blacktop, ARB
know this but the bloke in Brisbane couldn't give a sh.t. he said I should
be happy I got 90,000 out of them and now I can buy a new set off him as
they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
Singapore.

So if anyone is considering OME suspension ....DON'T!

Hergy
Biggus :) - 18 Jan 2008 13:20 GMT
>they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in Singapore.
no they arent. We did a tour of ARB recently, not all are made
overseas, and it isnt singapore.

>So if anyone is considering OME suspension ....DON'T!
Loved my LTR's I'd have them again in a heartbeat.
Hergy - 18 Jan 2008 21:05 GMT
> >they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
> >Singapore.
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>>So if anyone is considering OME suspension ....DON'T!
> Loved my LTR's I'd have them again in a heartbeat.

I was told by the bloke in Brisbane that they are made in singapore.
Biggus :) - 18 Jan 2008 22:45 GMT
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/arb-heads-offshore/2005/10/13/11287966518
24.html


>I was told by the bloke in Brisbane that they are made in singapore.
Kev - 20 Jan 2008 02:08 GMT
>>> they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
>>> Singapore.
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>
> I was told by the bloke in Brisbane that they are made in singapore.

get a set of springs from EFS
they seem to be the big name in offroading comps at the moment
watch 4WD TV on Bris31, not sure of the times but they have plenty of
adverts for 4WD suspension

there is a place in Moss St Slacks Creek that does EFS

or you could just go to any spring works(should be a couple around
Rocklea-wacol areas, though not sure where in Brisbane you are) and have
them reset

Kev
Hergy - 20 Jan 2008 04:12 GMT
>>>> they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
>>>> Singapore.
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> Rocklea-wacol areas, though not sure where in Brisbane you are) and have
> them reset

Kev, what is the pros and cons of resetting, over the years i have heard
some say that reset springs are actually more better at keeping the same
height then a stock set which has not been reset, others say it is just a
temporary reprieve and they will eventually fail again and worse. I rang two
different ARB offices and one said get em reset and that will do the job
another said reseting is a waste of time. approx what does it cost to reset
4 springs on a troopy?

Hergy
atec77 - 20 Jan 2008 04:26 GMT
>>>>> they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
>>>>> Singapore.
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>
> Hergy

I had Mayne spring works do some for me years ago , better than new and
lasted well until the car was sold (cheaper too)
Kev - 20 Jan 2008 12:32 GMT
>>>>> they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made in
>>>>> Singapore.
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>
> Hergy

Some of the people at ARB should be working a Dick Smiths because they
know as much about 4X4s as the people at DSE know about electronics

getting them reset will see them last as long if not longer than
original because they also get re tempered, a good job will see them out
last a new set

and they should cost around 1/2 the price of new springs to get reset
 call a few spring works and talk to them
it's what they do

Kev
Brad - 21 Jan 2008 06:57 GMT
>>>>>> they are heaps cheaper then when I bought them as they are all Made
>>>>>> in Singapore.
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>
> Kev

Used to be about $140 each when I was working down there, that was before
discounts.
Make sure it is a hot reset as there are cold resets done and they are only
a temporary fix at best.
Almost all cruiser springs are imported now as they cost about $40 each to
import. Because of the labour costs in Oz it is a lot more expensive to make
them in bulk here. Coils are a different story, Australian made and best
quality available.

We sell Dobinsons here and when I sell a spring I know it will be abused in
a way you could not imagine doing there. Coffee buyers are amongst the
worst, load up the Ute with a tone and a half and then drive back to towns
on roads that are seemingly unpassable. When they get stuck the get 20-30
villagers in to push/lift it out, load it up again and off they go.  Amazing
to see. I've had my VX pushed out of a bog by 30 village kids (monkies),
middle of nowhere, only car to get down that far for over a month, we had
been making a new track as we went to bypass a flooded river crossing. Was
over there last week and the track we made has been graded (rot bilong
long-long whitman) road the crazy white man made. Took all the kids for a
ride on the motorbike this time, the legend grows, seems they all know me
now. I was invited over to take pics of a circumcision ceremony/ right of
passage thing. The guys were about 15/16 damn that must have hurt makes me
squirm in my chair just thinking about it. About 30 of them in the ceremony,
thankfully they had already been cut and been "in the bush" learning the
traditions for about a month and this was just the ceremony to reintroduce
them to the tribe as men. The road over and back is always eventful,
potholes more like craters, landslides with parts of the road missing and
the steel decked single lane bridges, lots of fun. One more thing about the
road, red clay + over 20% gradient + rain = entertainment.

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