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$45us/pc H.I.D Conversion Kit
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paytonluo1@126.com - 16 Feb 2008 02:04 GMT 100% Customer Satisfaction Guarantee check the quality before you pay
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Biggus :) - 16 Feb 2008 02:59 GMT get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers.
Michael Cummins - 16 Feb 2008 11:53 GMT > get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. OK ebay I get...
what's bushy?
and on4tou?
me no speakey this 4wd lingo
Biggus :) - 16 Feb 2008 12:53 GMT Sellers on www.outerlimits4x4.com ;)
>what's bushy? > >and on4tou? The Real Andy - 17 Feb 2008 09:49 GMT >> get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >me no speakey this 4wd lingo whats a hid conversion kit? whats a hid?
Michael Cummins - 18 Feb 2008 12:40 GMT >>> get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. >> OK ebay I get... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > whats a hid conversion kit? whats a hid? I know that one... me electrician..
High Intensity Discharge... Like fluoros, but much more like street lighting. A coil is charged up with current. A starter opens the circuit. Being a induction, sudden stop of current causes high voltage to develop. Enough to leap across a Xenon, Soduim, or whatever tube.
If you don't understand that, just know that you get much more light per watt than Halogen.
Cheers Mick
\Bushy - 17 Feb 2008 11:01 GMT > > get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > me no speakey this 4wd lingo
>Sellers on www.outerlimits4x4.com ;) and lurkers on aus.cars.offroad since 1995 :)
Heh! I'd personally buy the 170/240 and XGT conversion kits off myself... but thats just me. Possibly coz noone else bothers to video their R&D and post it on to youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetVnhKx-Ww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKHxJfv-gJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i33f7dkUTAo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33akU_zFo6Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jxNFLz2n7k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1kboF8coQ8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YeiIkztOG8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqkjPXYTpts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru-A-pXLGk8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlbAk9MEFno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ulFz7teBnc
170/240 Blitz: $15.00 for a pair of adapters. XGT instructions: $10.00 Postage is included to anywhere in Australia. See: http://www.hid.isclever.com
cheers. Bushy.
\Bushy - 17 Feb 2008 11:04 GMT > > > get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > cheers. > Bushy. oops, stuff up. I only do Lightforce converson kits. sorry - didnt fully read everytthing.
Actual HID kits, I deal with Paul Sinclair, in melbourne, who runs www.brightlightautoparts.com. Better service than Steve 'on4tou'
Kev - 18 Feb 2008 15:11 GMT >>>> get em cheaper off ebay, or bushy, or on4tou on outers. >>> OK ebay I get... [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > www.brightlightautoparts.com. > Better service than Steve 'on4tou' So how much is a full conversion cost though including everything, bulbs, Ballasts etc. for a set of IPF 900
Kev
\Bushy - 19 Feb 2008 20:28 GMT > So how much is a full conversion cost though > including everything, bulbs, Ballasts etc. > for a set of IPF 900 35 watt kits: Anywhere between $30.00 (el-cheapo ebay Chinese crap) through to $1500.00 (real Philips, Borsch, Hella etc) 55 watt kits: Anywhere between around $150.00 through to $2000+
Im gonna have a bunch of 55w 5000k kits shortly for around the $250.00 range. Possibly ready by the week after next. 55w HID is supposedly around 450% brighter than that of a standard 55w halogen equivalent. So really is probably only double that of your 130 watt H3 bulbs in your IPF 900's. At least you've got some decent lights. IPF 800 (squares) are crap compared to the IPF900 (round). I have both. I have a 35w kit in both. I can compare apples to apples, and the 800's are really a really poor performing light when compared to the equivant round IPF900's. The 800's are really crap when compared to, say, an XGT with a 55w kit in them. Have the 900's on my subaru brumby, and it being a twin headlight, have a H1 kit in their standard high beam headlight housings. Gives a bloody lot of light without having to go silly and putting a massive amount of spotties on. Would easily outdo any B&S goat router ute with their 6 spotties on their rooves / buulbar.
Check out my crazy 7-bulbed 295 watt Blitz light. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlbAk9MEFno pics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ulFz7teBnc Pathetic light output... and it then melted.
And bring out the old Hella , Trilite, Narva bull light. Yes they are a crap light with their original 100 and 130 watt halogen bulb - be it a H1 or a H3 bulb. Throw in a kit - the best thing is that the ballast can be held inside the housing. Not many lights can do this. Makes for a _very_ nice and tidy install. And the kit makes them come alive. 55w kit in a pair of Narva lights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetVnhKx-Ww Video'd a fortnight ago.
...as ya can tell, I love playing with this stuff. Not just flogging it to try to make a quick buck. My next attempt is to go back to halogen, but Im talking about 1500 watts of 240v lighting here.
cheers dave
Kev - 20 Feb 2008 17:59 GMT >> So how much is a full conversion cost though >> including everything, bulbs, Ballasts etc. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > amount of spotties on. Would easily outdo any B&S goat router ute with > their 6 spotties on their rooves / buulbar. Is there a HB4 bulb available as in the 100 series Landcruiser or H7 as in the BA Falcon
Kev
\Bushy - 21 Feb 2008 19:39 GMT > Is there a HB4 bulb available > as in the 100 series Landcruiser > or H7 as in the BA Falcon yes, majority of bulb types are available, including the HB4 in the 100 series and H4/H1 combo in the twin headlight housing 80 series. Patrol GQ and GU use the standard bi-xenon hi/lo single H4 bulb. The not-so-common halogen bulb types, such as that of the H2 bulb (as used in Hella 1000's and Cibie Oscar 'super slim' spotlights for example) and the Osram JCD bi-pin (as used in all Lightforce spotlights) are not available in a HID bulb. Or at least I have yet to find a manufacturer who makes them... Or is willing to make them.
As far as I recall the 80 and 100 cruisers use switch-to-ground in their headlight circuitry, (same as old EA81 subaru wagons and Brumby's), which is the reverse to that of most other common vehicles on our roads. Although saying that Hyundai Excel's use some weird reverse polarity between lo and hi beam. (if anyone is bored one day, go look at one). If you grab a normal kit for your 100 series, you'll need to either drive another relay from your existing lighting circuitry to drive the ballasts, or use a diode and cut'n'reverse the polarity of the wiring. A lot of kits that I have seen (even el-cheapo chinese rubbish) have details or at least mention this. Apparently 100 series cruisers also have some sort of loading sense on the hibeam circuit, thus a normal kit will ignite the hi-beam dash indicator when in fact lo-beam is on. A resistor of some value is also required. There are kits available specifically for the 100 series which I'd be inclined to grab for ease of installation. Some dude on ebay is selling cheap 55w HID kits specifically for the 100 series. Another dude in Melbourne is selling 100 watt HID kits for the cruiser. Expensive, but the 100 watt metal halide HID's would be a gazzilion times brighter than that of the standard factory halogens.
More info: ADR 77 and ADR 78 is around 130 pages of utter crap of what is and what is not legal of HID on Australian roads. You need washers on automatic tilting / adjusting headlight housings which need to be connected to a sensor between the rear of the chassis and diff. HID bulbs can not be longer than a certain amount, can only produce a certain amount of lumens within a certain range, must be a max of 35 watts, can not be any more than 4300k in colour, must be in a proper E marked housing. Must be Euro light pattern, US and Japan spread patterns are illegal. It goes on and on... It gave somebody somewhere a job for a quite while. Doesn't mention a thing about using HID bulbs within spot lights or 'auxially lighting systems'.
Early cheap HID kits didnt have much in the way of UV protection on the bulb. Which metal halides produce a lot of. UV can deteriorate the headlight housing chrome reflector within a year or three. Bulbs in newer kits that meet whatever ISO standards must not trasmit more than umpteen % of UV. No idea what this is though.
I could go on and on but wont. I haven't written this much in the past week on aus.cars.offroad since about 2003...
Kev - 22 Feb 2008 18:05 GMT >> Is there a HB4 bulb available >> as in the 100 series Landcruiser [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > not available in a HID bulb. Or at least I have yet to find a > manufacturer who makes them... Or is willing to make them. I'm just tossing up weather I should first convert my cruiser to the 2006 model clear lens lights(side by side instead of vertical stacked) then add some HID kits to the high beam, the 4300K lights would probably be the highest I'd use, I have tried higher temp lights and they were a real pain to see on tree lined country roads and even worse in the rain
> As far as I recall the 80 and 100 cruisers use switch-to-ground in > their headlight circuitry, (same as old EA81 subaru wagons and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There are kits available specifically for the 100 series which I'd be > inclined to grab for ease of installation. That switch to ground is common on most Jap cars, and I think on all Toyota models
> Some dude on ebay is selling cheap 55w HID kits specifically for the > 100 series. Another dude in Melbourne is selling 100 watt HID kits for > the cruiser. Expensive, but the 100 watt metal halide HID's would be a > gazzilion times brighter than that of the standard factory halogens. hmmmm. a couple of 100W HID in clear lens high beams plus a couple of 100W HID converted IPF900s nice
Thanks for that info
Kev
\Bushy - 24 Feb 2008 12:08 GMT > hmmmm. a couple of 100W HID in clear lens high beams plus a couple of > 100W HID converted IPF900s Heres a 6 min video of a 35w 6000k kit in both in the hi-beam headlight housings and IPF900 spotties on my Subey Brumby. Done 9:30pm saturday night. Only the first 2 mins is relavent, the rest is rubbish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeRhQAFFdkc
So a 100w 5000k kit would be rather extreme.
dave
Kev - 24 Feb 2008 14:53 GMT >> hmmmm. a couple of 100W HID in clear lens high beams plus a couple of >> 100W HID converted IPF900s [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeRhQAFFdkc I had some blue lights once and driving country roads at night or in the rain was a real chore as you couldn't really see anything other than the white lines and posts kangaroos were almost hidden in the light
> So a 100w 5000k kit would be rather extreme. 5000K would be better for bush/rain driving than the 6000K
I have been told that 4300K is the best for wet weather driving away from the city lights hmm 100 watt HID in the clear lens headlights and 100 watt in the IPFs extreme?? Nahhhh
Kev
\Bushy - 21 Feb 2008 19:41 GMT > Is there a HB4 bulb available > or H7 as in the BA Falcon bugger. Yes, H7 is also available.
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