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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / May 2009Turbo power
seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I can't pass up hope to have it fitted to the 100 series by around Easter be good to be able to tow the boat along the highway and keep it it top gear Kev : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : Kev Gunna add some extra bits while your at it Kev? Intercooler, larger turbo, Better Exhaust......... Hiclone....... ;o) > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Gunna add some extra bits while your at it Kev? Intercooler, larger turbo, Better Exhaust......... > Hiclone....... ;o) the exhaust has to be changed, well the front part so I might as well do the lot, Intercooler? hmmmm maybe later and the standard turbo will be fine gor what I want I don't think my drive train could handle the extra grunt from a Hiclone, I'm sure I'd need top fuel dragster gear for that Kev : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] : : Kev WHAT?!?! No Hilcone OR Bi-Polar/magnetic/fusion/fuel saver?? Geeze how can you sleep at night?!?!?!?!?!? At least there wont be a huge amount of lecty work involved with an oiler eh. : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] : : Kev Finished yet?!?!?!? Hell yourve had at least three weekend days to do it so far! > : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I > : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Hell yourve had at least three weekend days to do it so far! Yeah but I work weekends here's hoping for the Easter weekend Kev > > : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I > > : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > but I work weekends > here's hoping for the Easter weekend Progress report? >>> : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I >>> : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Progress report? Well I got the flywheel and new clutch fitted and cleaned some of the dirt off it(been sitting under a cover under a bench in a shed that is used for painting camper trailers with hammertone paint, the overspray gets everywhere, even under the cover over the engine) Spiffy looking clutch it is too, 4Terrain brand, Pressure plate has 30% higher clamping pressure, clutch plate is normal on pressure plate side and button clutch type on the flywheel side. $650 for that one should handle the extra power no problem at all Kev > >>> : > : seems I have been offered a 1HD engine with 220,000klms at a price I > >>> : > : can't pass up [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > used for painting camper trailers with hammertone paint, the overspray > gets everywhere, even under the cover over the engine) You'll get there... eventually :) In article <49e61823$0$22558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, kevcat@optunet.com.au says... > Jeßus wrote: > > In article <49d755d6$0$32001$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > used for painting camper trailers with hammertone paint, the overspray > gets everywhere, even under the cover over the engine) ; ;You'll get there... eventually :) ; Perfect opportunity to strip it clean and repaint the motor! make sure its a nice glossy paint job so the mud doesn't stick so well ;o) > In article <49e61823$0$22558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, > kevcat@optunet.com.au says... [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Perfect opportunity to strip it clean and repaint the motor! make sure its a nice glossy paint job > so the mud doesn't stick so well ;o) Hmmm maybe not but I am going to replace the big ends since it is the older engine, just to be sure, which reminds me I better go look for torque specs for that Kev ; ;Hmmm maybe not ;but I am going to replace the big ends since it is the older engine, ;just to be sure, which reminds me I better go look for torque specs for that ; ; ;Kev ; Not up and running yet?? > ; > ;Hmmm maybe not [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Not up and running yet?? Getting to be a bit of a saga here The guy who was transporting the other guy with all the gear has come down with a bad flu, I'm sure that cough sounded more like an Oink so he's hoping Sunday or Monday Kev : > ; : > ;Hmmm maybe not [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : : Kev buggar, that puts your weekend on a tight schedule then eh. I suppose that youve got the old donk out and ready have you? > : > "Kev" <kevcat@optunet.com.au> wrote in message > news:49f3caf1$0$3799$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I suppose that youve got the old donk out and ready have you? no it's still in there being used Not gonna happen anyway sigh not a tight weekend for me it's my 5 day weekend Kev Mate suggested I should change the bearings while I had it out as a last minute decision I followed his advice. Glad I did this engine is obviously one of the early 1HDs that hadn't had the bearings replaced by Toyota as it hadn't failed when new this is at 225,000klms http://members.optusnet.com.au/pics/bearing1.jpg http://members.optusnet.com.au/pics/bearing2.jpg http://members.optusnet.com.au/pics/bearing3.jpg http://members.optusnet.com.au/pics/bearing4.jpg wouldn't have been long before the set on N0. 3 big end went Otherwise it's running great smooth idle, no adverse noises goes very well takes about 3/4 of the time to reach 100kph than it did before When I was on the way home last night I had a trailer on with the old engine, engine crane, engine stand, 20L oil, 20L old oil & coolant and will all the tools and gear and it still went better than the old engine Now I just have to get the exhaust connected up(running straight out the dump pipe, surprising very quiet) and an air filter adapter made up(running a pod I stole from my daughters car) If anyone is interested I'll be selling the 1HZ for around $3500 next month 297,700klms and used no oil between changes, comes with Geni Wildcat extractors, clutch, new rear main seal and I may throw in a new power steer pump seal kit Kev Sorry Try > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing1.jpg > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing2.jpg > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing3.jpg > http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing4.jpg > Sorry > Try [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing3.jpg > >http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing4.jpg Jesus mate - what did you do to it?!?!? -- Kipland. > Sorry > Try [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing3.jpg >> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/bearing4.jpg MM so how bad is the crank ? > Mate suggested I should change the bearings while I had it out > as a last minute decision I followed his advice. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > wouldn't have been long before the set on N0. 3 big end went Looks like you may have just caught it in time. I'm trying to remember the original problem with that engine and the fix, if I remember correctly it was either a bad batch of shells or incorrect material and the new spec bearings fixed it with no further problems? Daryl >> Mate suggested I should change the bearings while I had it out >> as a last minute decision I followed his advice. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Daryl It was the bearing shell material, it was prone to delamination there wasn't any problems with crank damage as the material was very soft and yes a better bearing material fixed the problem Kev > It was the bearing shell material, it was prone to delamination > there wasn't any problems with crank damage as the material was very soft So the various dealer's service managers were no doubt instructed to say. I haven't seen an engine yet where a bearing problem left the crankshaft undamaged. If not visible by naked eye then most certainly when touched with a mike. > and yes a better bearing material fixed the problem It's difficult to tell the exact cause of the failure without looking at the back of the shells, but the photo's showed shells that looked like they'd suffered from insufficient oil clearance. Different bearings with the exact same material machined to the correct oil clearances most likely fixed the problem. -- Regards, Noddy. >It's difficult to tell the exact cause of the failure without looking at the >back of the shells, but the photo's showed shells that looked like they'd >suffered from insufficient oil clearance. Different bearings with the exact >same material machined to the correct oil clearances most likely fixed the >problem. There also appeared to be signs of excessive crush on at least some of them (markings and damage adjacent to the parting lines). But, as you say, without seeing the backs (and the tunnels they came out of) the real cause remains far from conclusive. The bearing material being "too soft" I certainly wouldn't buy on the basis of what's been shown. Presumably they're aluminium (as the damage tends to indicate) rather than babbit?  SignatureJohn H >> It's difficult to tell the exact cause of the failure without looking at the >> back of the shells, but the photo's showed shells that looked like they'd [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Presumably they're aluminium (as the damage tends to indicate) rather > than babbit? Actually "Too soft" might not be correct the separation was common and a replacement set of bearings fixed the problem I'm going to ask more about it in the LCOOL forums the journals were still in good shape and showed no sign of scoring or marking at all It isn't too much of a problem as I have a spare block that I am going to rebuild at a later stage Kev > the journals were still in good shape and showed no sign of scoring or > marking at all They may have looked okay to the naked eye, but I'd be checking them with a micrometer. I'd at least be using plasti-guage when assembling the engine at the minimum or you might find yourself with shitty oil pressure. > It isn't too much of a problem as I have a spare block that I am going to > rebuild at a later stage I don't know how predominant the problem was with these engines, but I'd be having the crank tunnels checked. -- Regards, Noddy. >the journals were still in good shape and showed no sign of scoring or >marking at all Doesn't surprise me at all... but I'd still have 'em miked, if you don't have the gear to do it yourself. Having the affected journals linished (polished) by an engine reconditioner is also highly desirable whenever bearings are replaced. (It's essential for nodular iron cranks if you want a decent service life from the new bearings, though yours may be steel.) SignatureJohn H |
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