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Electrolux LPG fridge

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Daryl Harris - 31 Dec 2003 03:17 GMT
Hi  All,

I have a camper trailer with an Electrolux RM2310 3 way fridge. On firing up
the fridge to cool it before we go away, I found it wasn't getting cold. I
looked at the instructions and they say the fridge must be level. I levelled
the van and it started to get cold.
It seems however the fridge not getting cold enough. The freezer is cold but
the food compartment is only so so.
Again referring to the instructions, one cause could be jet orifice blocked,
however it doesn't show the orifice in the exploded diagram.
Any tips from anyone who has had a similar experience appreciated.

Daryl
Mike Harding - 31 Dec 2003 03:47 GMT
>I have a camper trailer with an Electrolux RM2310 3 way fridge. On firing up
>the fridge to cool it before we go away, I found it wasn't getting cold. I
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>however it doesn't show the orifice in the exploded diagram.
>Any tips from anyone who has had a similar experience appreciated.

I have a (fairly old) absorption fridge of the type you mention
(ie. gas/12V/240V) and when they say "Level" they mean
LEVEL! I keep a $2 shop spirit level inside my fridge for
just that purpose to ensure it is pretty level in the two axis.

If it works OK on 240V then it could be a blocked gas jet
but if it is poorly on 240V too then it may be a gas leak
but I doubt it, given that it partly works.

LEVEL, LEVEL AND LEVEL :)

Mike Harding
Rheilly Phoull - 31 Dec 2003 10:01 GMT
> >I have a camper trailer with an Electrolux RM2310 3 way fridge. On firing up
> >the fridge to cool it before we go away, I found it wasn't getting cold. I
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>
> Mike Harding

You should really give a lot of thought to selling it and buying a
compresser job. Nothing takes the fun away from a trip than stuffing around
with a recalcitrant fridge !!

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Regards ............... Rheilly Phoull

kevcat - 01 Jan 2004 12:35 GMT
hope you all turn off the gas before travelling?

too many morons drive into servos while I'm unloading with their gas
fridge going

Kev

> Hi  All,
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> Daryl
Foss - 02 Jan 2004 01:35 GMT
How do you know that Kev ?

> hope you all turn off the gas before travelling?
>
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> > Daryl
Foss - 03 Jan 2004 12:13 GMT
*<sound of crickets>*

> How do you know that Kev ?
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> > > Daryl
kevcat - 04 Jan 2004 05:57 GMT
no crickets here
plenty out where I been camped for the last 3 days

the gas turned on for one thing
and you just have to ask
they are usually stupid enough to tell you
that is while they are standing there pumping petrol with all the
vapours floating about

Travelling with a carvan/camper with the gas turned on is is against the
law and very stupid

of course, don't tell me Foss
you do it all the time do ya?
never had any problem?

the only reason more people are not killed from gas and petrol fires is
sheer luck

gas and petrol is very dangerous

Kev

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> > > > Daryl
Foss - 04 Jan 2004 08:28 GMT
I was just interested to know who you came to know that people were running
around with the gas on.

There was a sign on the entrance at the munitions filling factory where I
spent a bit of time that said "You may be able to hide the cigarette, but
can you hide the explosion".  I guess people really are that gumby.

> gas and petrol is very dangerous
Seems obvious doesn't it.

> don't tell me Foss you do it all the time do ya?
23 & 40 ltr Engles, slide locks & insulation covers. 165 watt solar panel
mounted over the cab. Auto changeover dual battery system (alternator
charges while engine is running, panel when it's not). Don't like absorbsion
fridges for travelling they are to critical on level & develop vapour locks
quite easily which is a complete bastard to fix. Don't get me wrong, they
have there place, but the setup I have absolutely nails anything that can be
accomplished with an absorbsion setup.

cheers
Foss

> no crickets here
> plenty out where I been camped for the last 3 days
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kevcat - 04 Jan 2004 12:25 GMT
> I was just interested to know who you came to know that people were running
> around with the gas on.

no worries

> There was a sign on the entrance at the munitions filling factory where I
> spent a bit of time that said "You may be able to hide the cigarette, but
> can you hide the explosion".  I guess people really are that gumby.

saw one of those feral ute w.nkers drive into a Beaudesert servo
had all the usual shitthe "CAT" mudflaps with chrome mudflap weights
that dragged along the ground, metal on the ground makes lovely sparks
at night
so here he is driving into the servo, scrap scrap, right across the
metal tank access covers and 3 people fueling + me unloading, and I spot
the sticker on two of the 4 bull lights on the rollbar...."ONE FLASH &
YOUR ASH"
I though how appropriate

Kev
Graham@craphotmail.com - 03 Jan 2004 23:14 GMT
Have a look at these sites and you may find some help
lots of discussion on the forums. and this yahoo one has search engine.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/campertrailers/
http://groups.msn.com/Caravanersforum
and much more on fridges here
http://www.caravanrefrigeration.com.au/
http://www.aroundoz.com/diy_archive/electrolux_fridge_efficiency.htm
http://www.rvmobile.com/Tech/Trouble/TROUBLE.HTM
http://www.fridge-and-solar.net/wire.html
http://www.fridge-and-solar.net/wire.html

>I have a camper trailer with an Electrolux RM2310 3 way fridge. On firing up
>the fridge to cool it before we go away, I found it wasn't getting cold. I
Daryl Harris - 04 Jan 2004 10:09 GMT
Thanks for all your replies......

I have just returned from a week away and still trying to work out if the
fridge is ok.

It was around 40 deg every day while I was away.

The freezer was always freezing however by the end of a 40 deg day, the food
compartment was only mildly chilled. (It was cold in  the morning though).

I am now wondering if this is all that can be expected which such hot
weather.

Again thanks for the replies, and to the person who replied directly to my
email, could you send it again as I accidentally deleted it after doing a
mass Spam kill.

cheers (with warm beer) Daryl

> Hi  All,
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> Daryl
Graham@hotmail.com - 05 Jan 2004 05:24 GMT
Thats about as good as you'll get with 3way..

>It was around 40 deg every day while I was away.
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>I am now wondering if this is all that can be expected which such hot
>weather.
Al Winter - 05 Jan 2004 09:14 GMT
Graham, one way to get over that is to get a extractor fan and sit it on top
your fridge and directing the air out thro' the grill.
In caravan camping shops they're around $60 but I bought a 12V computer
cooling fan $20 and wired it up to my 12 volt system, it works
perfect.........Al

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I cna ytpe30 wrods pre
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> Thats about as good as you'll get with 3way..
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> >I am now wondering if this is all that can be expected which such hot
> >weather.
Wayne Brown - 08 Mar 2004 09:30 GMT
This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
enough petrol to charge the battery everyday while camped at the favourite
fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3 way
will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne
Mike Harding - 08 Mar 2004 10:46 GMT
>This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
>3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
>enough petrol to charge the battery everyday while camped at the favourite
>fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3 way
>will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
>trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne

Having just returned from a few days in the late 30 degs. in
NW Victoria I would agree. It did keep things cool but it
struggled. Less than (say) 33C - no problem, excellent fridge
and the ability to run on gas is worth it's weight in gold if you
are camped in one spot for a few days. However keep in mind
these fridges do need to be LEVEL and 4WDing is often not
level and I find mine doesn't work very well then - although
Rob2 has a newer unit than mine and, I think, has better results?

Mike Harding
Rob2 - 08 Mar 2004 12:37 GMT
> >This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
> >3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
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> level and I find mine doesn't work very well then - although
> Rob2 has a newer unit than mine and, I think, has better results?

Mine's not exactly a spring chicken - it's about 12 years old now,
but has basically the same guts in it as the newer F400 model
Chescold - I know this as I salvaged a valve out of a discarded one
when mine started leaking (and kept the other bits for spares).
They're great fridges on gas but consume heaps of power on 12v or
240v - will flatten a battery in about 3 to 4 hours.  The "Finch"
model won't freeze, so maybe aren't as good in the hot weather as
the other Chescolds models.  We've dragged ours all over the
Kimberleys and NT for years in 35 to 40 degrees and high humidity,
and it kept stuff frozen no problem.  When it's in the car you need
to make sure the vents are kept clear.  Regarding keeping it level,
it's not too critical - if it looks reasonably level it's fine.

Rob
Graham@hotmail.com - 09 Mar 2004 03:41 GMT
If you want a 3way to work in hot climates ie above 32c ensure you get a
climate class T fridge,   these are designed to operate fine up to 43C
climate class SN or N are only designed to work fine to around 32C
the climate class is usually on the specification label

>>This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
>>3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
>>enough petrol to charge the battery everyday while camped at the favourite
>>fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3 way
>>will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
>>trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne
Rheilly Phoull - 08 Mar 2004 11:21 GMT
> This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
> 3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
> enough petrol to charge the battery everyday while camped at the favourite
> fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3 way
> will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
> trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne

Theres no way around the need for power of some kind when you have high
overnight ambients. Personally I would not favour the '3 way' since IMHO
they are not very efficient at 'pulling down' warm goods. Also IMHO there is
no way around the need for providing power for a fridge in those conditions.
Whilst the solar panel (and battery) setup is expensive initially it does
have many benefits and compared to using a genny all the time, certainly
goes a way towards recouping the intial costs.

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Regards ........ Rheilly Phoull

You have been infected with the 'Irish Bomb'
Since we don't know dat programming tings we have to be workin with de
honour system  for now.
Please would ye be deleting all yer files and operatin systems and sending
dis to all ya friends and udder folks.
Thanks ....Rheilly

Bristan - 08 Mar 2004 21:22 GMT
Wayne, I have a new three way electolux fitted in my caravan.
I spent a week at Sandon river near Yamba end of January this year. Temps
were well up, 35 plus.
The fridge worked faultlessly on gas. Frozen food remained frozen. Beer was
nice and cold.
We run it on 240v  24 hrs before leaving home and then on 12v from the car.

> This is a very useful topic, I'm looking around for fridge and I favour the
> 3 way as I've heard stories of needing solar panels, battery storage units,
> enough petrol to charge the battery everyday while camped at the favourite
> fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3 way
> will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
> trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne
Wayne Brown - 19 Mar 2004 10:16 GMT
Ta Yes I have heard the trick is to get the temp down and use 12v(wired to
the spare battery)/gas to maintain it.  I'm inclined towards the unit with
the freezer compartment divider, working on the principle that removing the
compartment provides lower temp throughout.

Any suggestion on where to buy a unit.  Either over the net or near
Queanbeyan?

> Wayne, I have a new three way electolux fitted in my caravan.
> I spent a week at Sandon river near Yamba end of January this year. Temps
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> > will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning a
> > trip to Cooktown via Longreach.  Wayne
Anath - 20 Mar 2004 07:54 GMT
> Ta Yes I have heard the trick is to get the temp down and use 12v(wired to
> the spare battery)/gas to maintain it.  I'm inclined towards the unit with
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> Any suggestion on where to buy a unit.  Either over the net or near
> Queanbeyan?

Hi Wayne.

A good trick to cool off a 3Way before a trip is to go out to BOC gases in
Fyshwick (I assume your in QBN?) and grab a kilo or two of dry-ice ($4.50/kg
from memory), wrap it in newspaper and chuck half in the fridge and half in
your esky full of ice & drinks etc, and it'll cool everything down really
quickly, and not use a ton of gas / battery power & 24 hours getting your
fridge from ambient temp down to working temp. Once 3Ways are cold they do a
good job of keeping stuff cold, but they are very slow cooling things down
from room temperature, pre-cool drink bottles etc in the Ice Esky first too,
to save the 3Way some work.
Graham@hotmail.com - 23 Mar 2004 07:28 GMT
Get a climate class T   3 way fridge good to at least 42C

>> > fishing spot, etc.  A chap at the local camping store advised that the 3
>> way
>> > will not be effective above 35 degrees which is a worry as I'm planning
>a
 
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