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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / February 20044wd licenses on Federal Agenda this time... :(
Why I have no f.cking idea. c.nt of an idea. Last Update: Thursday, January 29, 2004. 11:43am (AEDT) Minister to probe four-wheel-drive safety " Federal Roads Minister Senator Ian Campbell says he will meet with manufacturers and importers to discuss the best way to educate motorists about driving four-wheel-drive vehicles. All four-wheel-drive vehicles sold in Australia are tested to ensure they meet safety standards but there are concerns that rollover testing is not conclusive. Senator Campbell says the industry must ensure consumers get detailed safety information when they buy a vehicle. "Here's the challenge, what do we do to better advise people about the characteristics of some of these vehicles that do require more care," he said. "I mean clearly there are things that you can do when your driving a four-wheel, things you should do when you're driving a four-wheel-drive that you may not have to do in a passenger car." The Federal Government will also talk to the states and territories about the possibility of introducing a special licence for motorists who drive large four-wheel-drive vehicles. Senator Ian Campbell says driving some four-wheel-drive vehicles is more difficult than driving a sedan. "Some of the big four-wheel-drives they are more akin to driving a small truck than they are to driving a passenger car, so they're the sort of options you could look at," he said. "But I think driver education and consumer information at the point of sale are things we can work on immediately with the cooperation of the states." Heheh, how much will the Gov/ment rake in on this one then ???..........Al -- > Why I have no f.cking idea. c.nt of an idea. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > sale are things we can work on immediately with the cooperation of the > states." <snip> > > The Federal Government will also talk to the states and territories > > about the possibility of introducing a special licence for motorists > > who drive large four-wheel-drive vehicles. > > Senator Ian Campbell says driving some four-wheel-drive vehicles is > > more difficult than driving a sedan. <snip> >"Al Winter" <alwinter@arach.net.au> wrote in message news:401d0db6@funnel.arach.net.au... > Heheh, how much will the Gov/ment rake in on this one then ???..........Al If it was just another "class" on the licence, then probably not a lot, but I can't see them doing it as sensibly as that, they'd be sure to make it expensive. More to the point though, how many friggin morons do you see driving normal cars - and killing themselves and others in the process - despite having a licence for that type of car? Flamin heaps of them! I can't see, having to sit a special licence to drive a 4WD, would be any more successful in changing the behaviour of the small minority of dumb 4WD owners, than having to sit a car licence has changed the behaviour of a large minority of dumb car owners. Trentus Does this also mean that the people with caravans will also have to have a special category of licence? Muddy Now thats an idea! >Does this also mean that the people with caravans will also have to have a >special category of licence? That why it won't happen you can drive a 2.5 tonne truck with a gross mass of 4.5 tonnes without a special licence, as all 4WD passenger vehicles has a gross mass of less than that it won't happen the idea that you need to do things in a 4WD that you don't driving a normal sedan is not valid, when towing a trailer you need to do things that you don't normally do in just a sedan it's just this w.nker trying to grab a few votes because there will be an election soon problem is there are more 4WD owners than anti-4WDers come election time, and the threat of making people pay for a special licence will kill off any thing like that Kev > Now thats an idea! > > >Does this also mean that the people with caravans will also have to have a > >special category of licence? Thats my arguement!!! Billions. >Heheh, how much will the Gov/ment rake in on this one then ???..........Al >The Federal Government will also talk to the states and territories >about the possibility of introducing a special licence for motorists [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >small truck than they are to driving a passenger car, so they're the >sort of options you could look at," he said. So they would need to do the same for small vans and People Movers etc. I doubt it. Mike Harding Biggus <knickers.fu_kew@hotmail.com> mumbled: > Why I have no f.cking idea. c.nt of an idea. It's coming up to f.cking election time. What do you expect? Yet another half arsed scheme to suck in fringe voters like Harold the fuckwit Scruby and his ilk - "Look at us, we're doing something about those dangerous 4WD's that kill all these innocent walking pedestrian types". It'll come to nothing, like so many other of these brilliant ideas that surface at election time. DaZZa  SignaturePeople can be divided into three classes. The few who make things happen The many who watch things happen And the overwhelming majority who have no idea what has happened Picked up from a web site, author unknown Address in header is spamblocked. ROT13 the following for email replies qnmmn@mvc.pbz.nh > "Some of the big four-wheel-drives they are more akin to driving a > small truck than they are to driving a passenger car, so they're the > sort of options you could look at," he said. Very odd since you can drive any vehicle up to 4.5 tonne GVM on a car license which included lots of small trucks. Are they going to introduce special licenses for drivers of small trucks under 4.5t gvm? Instead of targetting drivers of particular vehicles like 4WD's we need to improve overall driving standards which are currently appalling. Is this a knee jerk reaction to the deaths of the Canberra lawyers on the Hume Hwy recently when their Landcruiser rolled? Daryl you give too much credit for a politician - any reaction to anything other than their super benefits or a "megia" soundbite fails to register on their tiny minds. > > "Some of the big four-wheel-drives they are more akin to driving a > > small truck than they are to driving a passenger car, so they're the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Daryl > Is this a knee jerk reaction to the deaths of the Canberra lawyers on > the Hume Hwy recently when their Landcruiser rolled? Yep. There's a few lefties using this tragic accident as a lever > > Is this a knee jerk reaction to the deaths of the Canberra lawyers on > > the Hume Hwy recently when their Landcruiser rolled? > > Yep. There's a few lefties using this tragic accident as a lever It sure sounded like that was the case. Typical crap that happens a lot these days, shift blame and avoid taking responsiblity for their actions, ie driver error so blame the vehicle instead of the driver. Daryl >> > Is this a knee jerk reaction to the deaths of the Canberra lawyers on >> > the Hume Hwy recently when their Landcruiser rolled? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >responsiblity for their actions, ie driver error so blame the vehicle >instead of the driver. You blokes aren't cynical enough... Wanna buy a bridge? :-) This is just an idea for another source of revenue. With every second car now being a 4x4 (around here anyway) a "special licence" at, say, $100 for 5 years, would pay for a few decent ministerial junkets and other high priority items. Cheers, Phred. SignatureppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID Pardon me for being cynical too, I couldn't agree more, its just another way of reducing the working mans way of life, making sure he has to count every penny....Al > You blokes aren't cynical enough... Wanna buy a bridge? :-) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- > a "special licence" at, say, $100 for 5 years, would pay for a few decent ministerial junkets and other high priority items. Your cheap, I have it down for nearly a grand with training.... >> a "special licence" at, say, $100 for 5 years, would pay for a few decent > ministerial junkets and other high priority items. > >Your cheap, I have it down for nearly a grand with training.... Yeah. I was only considering the photo ID plastic, not the "extras". Cheers, Phred. SignatureppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID > > a "special licence" at, say, $100 for 5 years, would pay for a few decent ministerial junkets and other high priority items. > > Your cheap, I have it down for nearly a grand with training.... Costs less than that for a Heavy Combination license and about that for multi (B double) combination. Daryl Yup, but this is different, 4wds are good vote gainers, the harder they "APPEAR" to make it the more votes from the average fuckwit. >Costs less than that for a Heavy Combination license and about that for >multi (B double) combination. > >Daryl the "yes ministry" of CLOWNS reigns supreme. The next thing that they will think of is that because children commit crimes the parents should have a licence to spawn children. This govt is so full of BS and lame brained ideas or lack of they trot out this kind of drivel just to create discussion so that they can claim they are actually doing something rather than screwing the country. > Why I have no f.cking idea. c.nt of an idea. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > sale are things we can work on immediately with the cooperation of the > states." "ken (good grief it's upside down)" <calafradulistic@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:401de28e$0$1745$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au... > the "yes ministry" of CLOWNS reigns supreme. The next thing that they will > think of is that because children commit crimes the parents should have a > licence to spawn children. I think that suggestion does actually have some merit. There was a clever line in a movie that was something like "You need a license to own a dog, but they'll let any asswipe have children". Unfortunately you can't learn intelligence and common sense in a license prep class. At least new 4wds usually come with a set of instructions. Kids don't. When you stuff a 4wd you know straight away that somethings wrong. It may take years to discover that you've done the same to your kids lives. And that's a few elections away. > "ken (good grief it's upside down)" <calafradulistic@hotmail.com> > wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > clever line in a movie that was something like "You need a license > to own a dog, but they'll let any asswipe have children". another bullshit idea from our government surprise surprise isnt an election coming.....get ready for tax cuts, low income earner benefits of some kind , lowering the tax bracket for high income earners, and a new scheme for the unemployed ......i think that should cover all the voter groups...oops i forgot an increase in the old age pension..........isnt the australian public fickle.......i can hear johny rotten on the podium now ...cmon aussie voters ...vote with your wallets yet again return me to office for another term you dim bunch of fuckwits > Why I have no f.cking idea. c.nt of an idea. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > sale are things we can work on immediately with the cooperation of the > states." I don't vote. It only encourages the buggers. > another bullshit idea from our government surprise surprise > isnt an election coming.....get ready for tax cuts, low income earner [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > sale are things we can work on immediately with the cooperation of the > > states." |
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