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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / March 2004Birdsville to Uluru - What passes required?
Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in advance, or any other better options? Any other tips for a first timer doing this (or any other) desert trip? Regards, Ranga G'day Ranga, just make sure you spend some time in Coober Pedy, theres so much to see there, about 60% of the inhabitants live underground and they have hotels churches and such all underground. A very interesting place.......Al will do - I'm actually detouring to taqke in both Coober Pedy and Oodnadatta :) Thanks, Ranga > G'day Ranga, just make sure you spend some time in Coober Pedy, theres so > much to see there, about 60% of the inhabitants live underground and they > have hotels churches and such all underground. A very interesting > place.......Al South Australian Desert Park Passes. You can get one online from www.exploroz.com.au I think. As far as I know there are no permits to traverse aboriginal land needed to do that trip. Cheers Jim > Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track > around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Ranga > South Australian Desert Park Passes. You can get one online from > www.exploroz.com.au I think. As far as I know there are no permits to > traverse aboriginal land needed to do that trip. You won't need a Desert Parks Pass if you're staying on the roads from Birdsville - Marree - Oodnadatta - Cooper Pedy. You'll only need one if you actually want to go into the national parks (Simpson Desert Reserve, Lake Eyre National Park, etc.). The Birdsville Track is actually a very nice graded road - if it's dry. Better check that the road is open before you set off. I hear they had a bit of rain recently (well, rather a lot actually). No particular preparations req'd apart from the basics - lots of water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... thanks guys - the pass at exploroz propmted me to asked about requirements. It will be pretty much a road trip, but I could be swayed otherwise, so best get one! :) > > South Australian Desert Park Passes. You can get one online from > > www.exploroz.com.au I think. As far as I know there are no [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... Sorry mate, didnt read the plan properly. I thought you were coming back through the Simpson. Hence the Desert Parks pass. When you get to Birdsville and head on out to Big Red, be aware that the real Big Red is about 2k north of the National Parks "Big Red". There's a well travelled track by those who know..... The town isn't the place it used to be. Its too "cityfied" for me, crikey there's about 100 people there now, snd a bit further up the track you'll find they've tarred it :)) Take it easy as a friend rolled his vehicle out there 2 years ago and waited for 14 hours for someone to come by. Now he carries a HF radio. Remember that your biggest friend in the bush (apart from a good water supply) is time. Make sure you have your spare in good condition, and a good tyre repair kit. Last year I met a couple in Boulia headed for the Isa without a spare . They rekkoned one would be cheaper in Mt Isa. I talked them into asking if there was a s/h one in town. > thanks guys - the pass at exploroz propmted me to asked about requirements. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... thanks Jim. Yep, it's gonna be a pretty standard type trip, particularly to the us being desert newbies :) When you mean Big Red, I assume you mean the rock itself, or is htis a Birdsville landmark? I can't believe someone would travel out there without a spare (except for the Murries)!! Our party has 2 Troopies and one off-road trailer, each with a spare. I'm even feeling that 3 spares is inadequate, and am thinking about picking up another - thoughts? Regards, Ranga > Sorry mate, didnt read the plan properly. I thought you were coming back > through the Simpson. Hence the Desert Parks pass. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > > > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... Oh sorry mate, I kinda assumed that everyone knew what Big Red is. Big Red is the largest sand dune in the eastern Simpson desert. Its the Simpson's answer to the Big Pineapple. (I kid you not, there are stickers on the bowsers at the servo "Have you conquered Big Red yet ?".....vomit !!) The parks people have a road out to the "fake" one. It's well signposted from Birdsville . (Just watch out for tourists in pretend 4wds and the corrugations :) Cheers Jim > thanks Jim. Yep, it's gonna be a pretty standard type trip, particularly to > the us being desert newbies :) [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > > > > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... >I can't believe someone would travel out there without a spare (except for >the Murries)!! Our party has 2 Troopies and one off-road trailer, each with >a spare. I'm even feeling that 3 spares is inadequate, and am thinking >about picking up another - thoughts? It partly depends upon the condition of your tyres, newer tyres (say less than 20k) will be a lot better at resisting punctures than older tyres - but that, of course, is no guarantee. The roads in that area are not bad and given that you have a 2nd vehicle I wouldn't bother with another spare - I assume the 2 Troopcarriers use the same wheel/stud size? So, in an emergency you have six spares! That should be enough:) Mike Harding Tyres are availiable and it isnt all that far to a town. I usually carry a 2 spares and sometimes a spare casing along with tubes etc just in case. But I often travel alone. With another couple of mates you wont have a worry in the world.....hopefully :)) > thanks Jim. Yep, it's gonna be a pretty standard type trip, particularly to > the us being desert newbies :) [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > > > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > > > > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... ONLY 14 hrs? Crickey that's quick, hardly time to boil a billy and have a camp - sounds positively hectic :-)! > Sorry mate, didnt read the plan properly. I thought you were coming back > through the Simpson. Hence the Desert Parks pass. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > water (not just for drinking, but in case of cooling system probs), > > > tool kit, spare tyre, spare hoses & belts, some good music... >Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track >around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in >advance, or any other better options? When you get toUluru (Ayers Rock) you will have to pay "Looking Money" to enable you to get to the actual rock...... Golly its big....... Was there about week and 1/2 ago and photos don't do justice to the actual size of the pebble..... Your previous question about the roads, form Cobber Pedy to the rock is on the bitumen and it is good road. Last week (last Monday) after leaving Alice and when we were in Coober Pedy, the highway up to theNorthern Terriory border was closed at Kulgera, due to localised flooding which was over the highway. Unless they had more rain, I expect that it would have re-opened later that day or the day after. It would pay to inquire at the local Police stations about the daily road conditions. Most of the states road departments also have recorded message services about road closures, but be warned that it can be a long list of names before that road you are interested in is mentioned. Also we found that sometimes it was not till late afternoon before you could find out what the conditions were that morning, which proved a bit useless as it had qyuite often changed by the time you got the info. Again, your best bet each time when you are ready is to check with the local police or shire office who should be able to tell you. make sure you have sufficient water for each person, ( and also to actually DRINK IT on a regular basis in the heat ) as once again whilst we were at Uluru we saw a tourist who was on the verge of collapsing with heat exhaustion and also the following day another tourist actually died from heat exhaustion, due to not kepping up their intake of fluids. Tony >Any other tips for a first timer doing this (or any other) desert trip? > >Regards, >Ranga >>Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track >>around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in >>advance, or any other better options? >When you get toUluru (Ayers Rock) you will have to pay "Looking Money" >to enable you to get to the actual rock...... Ooooppppssss forgot, the amount you will have to pay is a fee of $16.25 per head which gives you pass to the rock area fro three (3) days. >Golly its big....... Was there about week and 1/2 ago and photos don't >do justice to the actual size of the pebble..... [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >>Regards, >>Ranga $16.25 per head is a rip off.....try an pick up one thats only part used.... ..If you do pay $16.25 per head and only use your pass for 1 day do the right thing and pass it onto some others coming in for a quick look... >>>Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track >>>around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >$16.25 per head which gives you pass to the rock area fro three (3) >days. >$16.25 per head is a rip off.....try an pick up one thats only part >used.... ..If you do pay $16.25 per head and only use your pass for 1 >day do the right thing and pass it onto some others coming in for a >quick look... Don't tell me about it being a rip-off.... my words exactly... They have thought of that, they make you fill in your full name when you get it , and probably take down your rego number as well to check against if they so desire and probably have the right to !! >>>>Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track >>>>around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>$16.25 per head which gives you pass to the rock area fro three (3) >>days. I see that a photo artist is having a legal battle with the mob there. He claims ownership of a pix of the rock. They claim spiritual ownership of his pix. So be careful what you snap, pick up or get caught under the car :)) As for the charge, they usually have some good looking young girl to rip you off at the tollgate. Whats to complain ? Try paying the $70+ to cross 15m of Jardine and being abused by the drunk driving the barge. A more acceptable method of ripping me off would of been to station a young female local on the barge. "Good morning sir. Welcome to our traditional lands.I hope you have a great time, please accept this brochure which outlines some of things you can do and places to visit. Have a safe journey. ".........In my dreams !!!!!! The locals view was so what ? Sorry, my experience left a very bitter taste. At least I got a smile for my $16 at Uluru. (last time I didnt have to pay...was going west, didnt miss seeing the rock at all :) Cheers Jim > >$16.25 per head is a rip off.....try an pick up one thats only part > >used.... ..If you do pay $16.25 per head and only use your pass for 1 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >>$16.25 per head which gives you pass to the rock area fro three (3) > >>days. I see that a photo artist is having a legal battle with the mob there. He claims ownership of a pix of the rock. They claim spiritual ownership of his pix. So be careful what you snap, pick up or get caught under the car :)) As for the charge, they usually have some good looking young girl to rip you off at the tollgate. Whats to complain ? Try paying the $70+ to cross 15m of Jardine and being abused by the drunk driving the barge. A more acceptable method of ripping me off would of been to station a young female local on the barge. And watch that the SOBs don't dump your vehicle in the drink as they make an entirely unannounced start as you are climbing the on ramp.... Quite deliberate IMO. they hardly check your pass at all! > >$16.25 per head is a rip off.....try an pick up one thats only part > >used.... ..If you do pay $16.25 per head and only use your pass for 1 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >>$16.25 per head which gives you pass to the rock area fro three (3) > >>days. I'm back - expect an update soon! > Can anyone tell me what passes I will need to take th Brisdville track > around through Coober Pedy and up to Uluru? Can I buy them in Brisbane in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Ranga |
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