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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / January 2005Q: Air Compressor suggestions?
Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not have a fixed one if possible. Regards, Ranga $10 from Kmart does that no probs. but if you want to pump up tires regularly, get a good mounted one like a blue tounge, big red etc. >Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not have >a fixed one if possible. > >Regards, >Ranga why do you suggest a mounted one? how much/where from for those suggested? Thanks, Ranga > $10 from Kmart does that no probs. > but if you want to pump up tires regularly, get a good mounted one [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>Regards, >>Ranga ARB TJM etc.. they arent cheap $300 upwards, but they will last yrs, where a $10 Kmart job will shititself within months, and take forever to inflate. You can also run them with a truck air tank mounted under the chassis, and then run air tools, blower for blowing air filters, inflate tires, and run rattle guns handy for changin tires.... >why do you suggest a mounted one? how much/where from for those suggested? Can you recommend a reliable model from ARB or TJM Biggus? > ARB TJM etc.. they arent cheap $300 upwards, but they will last yrs, > where a $10 Kmart job will shititself within months, and take forever > to inflate. Ive the Bushranger compressor, although not excessively cheap or expensive (Mine was about $140) a good all rounder. Takes around 7min to inflate a 31-10.5/15 from 10 PSi to 40PSI > Can you recommend a reliable model from ARB or TJM Biggus? > >> ARB TJM etc.. they arent cheap $300 upwards, but they will last yrs, >> where a $10 Kmart job will shititself within months, and take forever >> to inflate. > Ive the Bushranger compressor, although not excessively cheap or expensive > (Mine was about $140) a good all rounder. Takes around 7min to inflate a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >> where a $10 Kmart job will shititself within months, and take forever > >> to inflate. I have an 18-month old Bushranger, and it has been a good compressor for the most part. 2 criticisms; 1) The type of QD connection fitting is a bugger to find (I think they are a Charge-Air style fitting, wheras most other QD stuff is a Nitto or one of the other 2 styles). I wanted to make up a connection to fit our longer hose from our shed compressor, and only stumbled upon the fittings in Bunnings after pretty much giving up. I now carry a short connector that allows me to fit other styles of connections to the unit. Note there are 4 different types of QD air fittings, and none of them fit each other. 2) Ours has a screw-on tyre connection, and it is a bit annoying. I see the later ones are a different style, so they might work a bit better than ours. Ours just shed part of the bit that depresses the valve, so I will have to replace it with another end fitting. Aside from this, we regularly inflate grader tyres with it, and thats a good way to melt a cheapie compressor. Cheers, Rod.......Out Back Thanks for the info Scotty and Rod. Been trying to figure out all the facts. Std tyre inflation in minutes?? Litres of air per minute?? Fixed or Boxed? Hardwired or movable? Regards. Jason. >>Ive the Bushranger compressor, although not excessively cheap or expensive >>(Mine was about $140) a good all rounder. Takes around 7min to inflate a >>31-10.5/15 from 10 PSi to 40PSI > I have an 18-month old Bushranger, and it has been a good compressor for the > most part. > > Cheers, > > Rod.......Out Back > Thanks for the info Scotty and Rod. > > Been trying to figure out all the facts. > Std tyre inflation in minutes?? Wouldnt have a clue with the bushranger. Probably in the manual somewhere, but frankly, the reliability of the unit and its ability to survive inflating a number of large tyres(ie not melting like the $20 units) was more important than its speed. > Litres of air per minute?? As above... > Fixed or Boxed? For me, I prefer a boxed unit(the bushranger is actually in a heavy cordura-type bag), mainly because we take it in a number of vehicles. However, I would still be inclined to have it boxed if I stuck to one vehicle, as it makes it easier helping someone else out. Might be a different story if we had locker diffs, and needed an air supply for them, but we dont have such a setup in any of our vehicles. > Hardwired or movable? Again, I prefer mine to be moveable for the reasons I have stated above. The bushranger comes in a bag that has everything in it to be able to be taken out and used. Very neat. My only criticism is I would like the power leads to be longer, but I can easily do this myself. I think they are only about 2 metres long, which makes it a bit hard to inflate another vehicle from your battery. Easily fixed if it sh.ts me off too much, though... If I was getting a fixed unit to be hard-wired into a vehicle, I would look at a Blue-Tongue compressor. They seem to be a rugged litle unit, and are at a no-frills sort of price. I understand they are probably more heavily built than the bushrangers, and so would be ideal if being mounted under the tray, or in the engine bay. > Regards. > > Jason. Cheers, Rod.......Out Back > > Thanks for the info Scotty and Rod. > > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Rod.......Out Back Mine isn't fixed, for the same sort of reasons. But a big disadvantage is that people sometimes leave their compressors behind when on a trip. Thats why mine is in a big bright aluminium box with the rest of the tyre gear. Jim Why not juts carry a CO2 cyliner with you, a small tank can carry enough to inflate 10 tyres and all you need is a small regulator and hose. Small dive tank good enough. CO2 can condence further than O2, Nitrogen and most other gases that you would inflate tyres with. Safe to carry if strapped down and can transport to another car no worries. These are actually available as 4x4 units as well, just cant for th elife of me remember where. Although Ive seen em in action in NZ on a trip there. >> Thanks for the info Scotty and Rod. >> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Rod.......Out Back > Why not juts carry a CO2 cyliner with you, a small tank can carry enough to > inflate 10 tyres and all you need is a small regulator and hose. Small dive [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> > >> Jason. You're asking why not carry a CO2 bottle instead of a compressor? Probably because I'd barely get more than a few tyres pumped up (try a grader tyre and a rear tractor tyre), and it's going to cost a lot of stuffing around to get them re-filled. If you have to carry a bottle of something, it's a finite resource. The great thing about air is its bloody plentifull, regardless of how many tyres I need to inflate...Imagine running out of gas somewhere out back, and nowhere to re-gas your CO2 cylinder? No doubt a CO2 cyl would be a handy little emergency backup(something I might consider as a setup for my mustering bike, for instance), but you cannot really beat a decent little aircompressor for every air-related necessity when travelling remote areas. It's just the same arguement as to whether or not you buy a $20 compressor from K-Mart, or a $300 (supposedly better)quality compressor. They are both likely to save your arse the first couple of times you use them, but bitter experience has taught me the better quality ones will still be working when it gets REALLY critical. If I'm travelling out in remote areas, I would prefer better quality gear that isnt as likely to let me down. Just my thoughts... P.S. This doesnt mean that every piece of gear selling for lots of money is better quality; the trick is to work out which is the over-priced crap...Hence, where this forum comes in handy... Cheers, Rod.......Out Back >P.S. This doesnt mean that every piece of gear selling for lots of money is >better quality; the trick is to work out which is the over-priced >crap...Hence, where this forum comes in handy... Spot on Rod! Expensive doesn't always mean quality and cheap doesn't always mean rubbish. Mike Harding Yeah while I do agree with you that the supply is finite, these are absolutely fantastic for short trips where you will have to pump up your tyres from beach levels to road levels a few times each. NO WAY would I rely on such a supply out West. >> Why not juts carry a CO2 cyliner with you, a small tank can carry enough > to [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > Rod.......Out Back > Yeah while I do agree with you that the supply is finite, these are > absolutely fantastic for short trips where you will have to pump up your [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > > > > Rod.......Out Back No, a bit like an esky and expecting to find an ice machine at every stop :)) Jim Not that it's a big factor in the whole scheme of things, just considering the options of, hard case or padded bag? (for the compressor not myself) ;-) Thank you for all the info people. Jason. > No, a bit like an esky and expecting to find an ice machine at every stop > :)) > > Jim > Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not have > a fixed one if possible. > > Regards, > Ranga Mine is ARB, bought many years ago when the only choice was ARB or TJM at $300+, or totally useless K-Mart style at $30. Many more choices today, with some at around $100, but I don't know how good they are. My ARB model is in a portable toolbox arrangement, which is important as the electrical connections to the motor look like they would break off in a flash. Mine has worked perfectly over 15 years or so. Brings a 16" tyre to 65psi from dead flat in about 5 minutes. My main gripe about the ARB model is the price, and flimsy connections. > Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not have > a fixed one if possible. > > Regards, > Ranga I have a Big Red. Can't fault it. I've got it in metal box with the rest of the tyre gear, but it can be portable or mounted if necessary. Having used some of the way older cheapies, I suggest a known brand. At least then you know that it will work well. Nothing worse than letting it down and being unable to get it up again...hmm...maybe a rephrase needed there. Jim >know that it will work well. Nothing worse than letting it down and being >unable to get it up again...hmm...maybe a rephrase needed there. >Jim We all get tyre-d sometimes..... DS > >know that it will work well. Nothing worse than letting it down and being > >unable to get it up again...hmm...maybe a rephrase needed there. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > DS LOL. Jim Got both an ARB and a Bushranger 72litre/min jobbie. The Bushranger will outdo the ARB easily. Was after another compressor and was a toss up between Endless Air (rebuilt airconditioning compressor with greasable bearings), ARB or a Bushranger compressor. Bought the Bushranger at the Tamworth ARB shop, they said to go with the Bushranger rather than the ARB - slightly cheaper and specs are better than said Mr Browns'. Super Cheap Auto sell a taiwanese/chinese identical unit (72litre/minute) to the Bushie for around $150.00. Very similiar canvas bag, same yellow coily hose. When Super Cheap was having their 20% off sale through December and boxing day, you could grab one of these for roughly $130.00 I wouldn't really rush out and buy a "Hurricane" - from after seeing these. They work like a slightly up-marketed heavier dutied K-mart $19.95 jobbie. Well, this one did anyway. And they sound too much like 'hiclone' for my liking. No experience with Big Red, Blue Tongues, Big Balls Black compressor and most others. >>Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not >> have a fixed one if possible. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unable to get it up again...hmm...maybe a rephrase needed there. > Jim >> Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not > have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > unable to get it up again...hmm...maybe a rephrase needed there. > Jim A new name for an Aussie compressor. Vigara!!!! > >> Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not > > have [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Vigara!!!! hahahahaha...have to be a better name than that. Viagra can kill ya ! Cheers Jim Depends entirely on exactly how much you want to spend. Bushranger have one called the Power-Air II for $99, which should do the job, if you're only planning occasional trips to the beach. (Try 4WD Megastores or Autobarn for Bushranger gear.) For $199 4WD Megastores sell one called 12V Gear Maxi-Air, which is basically a copy of the Bushranger Max-Air. It's not as good quality but it pumps pretty hard. Higher up the market (say $350-$400) I'd suggest the Big Red Plus or Bushranger Max-Air. Unless you're going to fit Air-Lockers at some stage I wouldn't bother with the ARB unit - it's mainly designed to power lockers and isn't as good at pumping tyres as some of the other compressors. The Opposite Lock Blue Tongue is a serious duty compressor (it's rated for continuous operation!) but isn't as fast as the Big Red or Bushranger. Hope that helps, BW. >Needed for the ususal inflatiing tyres after sand work. I'd rather not have >a fixed one if possible. > >Regards, >Ranga > Depends entirely on exactly how much you want to spend. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Regards, > >Ranga Haven't tried other decent ones, but my only complaint with my Big Red is that it gets seriously hot after pumping a few tyres up. I suppose they all do ? Jim I was going to upgrade my el cheapo ($60 Robo Air or something like that) because it took 15min to pump each tyre from 20 to 40 psi. This basically equates to 1 hour. This was OK for the occasional trip to the beach and when there is a garage in close proximity - ie just inflate to 25/30psi and finish the job at the garage, but no good for those back of Burke trips or camps on the beach where you're continually inflating/deflating. Anyway, whilst looking at options, I realised that the Blue Tongue (every one thinks they are great) would only cut the time down to around 10min per tyre. Granted it will pump for a long time, but not that much faster and I didn't feel like I would be gaining much for an outlay of around $300. Then I found the Bushranger MaxAir. It was a little more expensive (got mine on special for $350), but it will do each tyre from 15 to 40psi in approximately 2.5 minutes!! For me, the extra $50 spend represented far better value. The Max Air will pump continually for 20mins, which at 2 mins a tyre is 10 tyres - should be plenty for most people. Need more tyres inflated, give it a 5min rest and go again. The MaxAir pumps at 72l/min, which is approximately twice as much as a blue tongue (32l/min I think). With this much volume I can also use it to inflate air beds and the kids pool toys - something most compressors wont do, because they are low volume high pressure. The MaxAir comes in a sturdy carry bag, long leads that connect direct to the battery and long coil air hose. This allows me to reach the trailier tyres without having to disconnect it. It can also be mounted and hard wired under the bonnet (or on any other part of the car). Comes with a 5 year guarentee. Great unit. I wouldn't go past one. Cheers, W. > Depends entirely on exactly how much you want to spend. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>Regards, >>Ranga > Bushranger Max-Air. Unless you're going to fit Air-Lockers at some > stage I wouldn't bother with the ARB unit - it's mainly designed to It's not a huge deal to add a small tank & pressure switch to most fixed compressors if you do decide to add a locker anyway. |
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