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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / March 2005Lift kits in Queensland
Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. No idea if this is similar enough, but the '89 Patrol I've just bought has apparently been lifted 4 inches. It was bought from a dealer and passed a roadworthy yesterday. MrBonk www.mrbonk.com > Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a toyota > surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle > conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. RWC's mean absolutely sh.t Ive found. Its entirely up to the driver of the vehicle to ensure that the vehicles raodworthy and all modifications are legal. I do remember someone telling me that 2inch suspention and 2inch body life was max in Qld. Need to call a 4x4 engineer to confirm that one though. > No idea if this is similar enough, but the '89 Patrol I've just bought has > apparently been lifted 4 inches. It was bought from a dealer and passed a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle >> conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. > Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a > toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle > conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. Even if registered will an insurance company touch it ? Cheers Jim Almost any insurance company will insure you, but the vehicle must be legal. THey will take yoru money off you year after year and when you have a crash they turn around and tell you that they wont pay cause your lift kit was too high. Id be checking it out with a 4x4 engineer before ya hand out ya hard earned. Now if you get a mod plate done for that kit you have some recourse with the engineer. Untill then Id stay away, whys it for sale anyway? Maybe its been defected before? >> Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a >> toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Cheers > Jim I should think that lift kits etc are one of the things you should declare to the insurer when taking out your policy - then they decide whether or not to accept the risk David > Almost any insurance company will insure you, but the vehicle must be legal. > THey will take yoru money off you year after year and when you have a crash [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Cheers > > Jim Allcar or Justcar insurance companies will insure it for you. They insured a ChevV6 85Forerunner for me. Just drove it down to them and stated that I knew nothing other than it had a fresh RWC and a mod plate for the motor. I did however give them a chance to inspect but the guy said no worries we will cover you. Now I never tried to claim anything on that policey and to this day dont know if they would have covered it but I sent with my cheque digital pics of all mods wether relavant or not. >I should think that lift kits etc are one of the things you should declare >to [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> > Cheers >> > Jim Ahhh, you never claimed ! It's a different a story when you do. I read that hire 4wds on Fraser are not allowed to have their tyres let down for insurance reasons. If thats true then its a pretty interesting situation. Cheers Jim > Allcar or Justcar insurance companies will insure it for you. They insured a > ChevV6 85Forerunner for me. Just drove it down to them and stated that I [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> > Cheers > >> > Jim Good thinking Scotty, though I would have had that guy make a note on the policy to the effect of 'vehicle inpected and modifications noted as per list below" or such - the bastards would likely have screwed you if they had the chance David > Allcar or Justcar insurance companies will insure it for you. They insured a > ChevV6 85Forerunner for me. Just drove it down to them and stated that I [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >> > Cheers > >> > Jim RACQ seems to cover all this. They inspect first before taking your money. They even looked over my 89 Camry because it was rego'd previously in NSW. I think they'd be the best insurance Co to talk to. But bloody expensive and RACQ will not insure modified vehicles. Been there tried that. Even with other policeies with them they wouldnt insure mine. For no other reason except that it was modified.(Not even heavily) > RACQ seems to cover all this. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think they'd be the best insurance Co to talk to. Oh well.....in that case, don't buy it. A lot of people whinge about laws and insurance etc about modified vehicles, but to a point, I reckon it's fair enough. Maybe it's easier to buy a car with better ground clearance if ground clearance is the issue. I was thinking about lifting my Subaru, because I was always bottoming the bugger out. It had reasonable traction, just not enough hieght. I'm about to take possession of my brother in laws Pajero (dont laugh) which has a spring lift in it and 31s. AFIK this is legal. The car hasn't been messed with, with body lifts or anything, which is good. I reckon unless you're going to do extreme offroad rock hopping, comps, and all that, forget about lifted cars. Not worth the hassle. > But bloody expensive and RACQ will not insure modified vehicles. Been > there tried that. Even with other policeies with them they wouldnt insure [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> I think they'd be the best insurance Co to talk to. > But bloody expensive and RACQ will not insure modified vehicles. Been there > tried that. Even with other policeies with them they wouldnt insure mine. > For no other reason except that it was modified.(Not even heavily) expensive not just got my renewal for both the 100 series and the BA Ford $346 for the BA and $366 for the 100 series thats for 12 months, Rating One with no money owing on them as for mods what sort of mods did you have my cruiser is lifted, the BA has larger wheels my previous two cars, 84 Falcon and 85 4Runner were both modded the ford lowered with larger wheels, engine and exhaust mods the 4Runner converted to rear coils, lifted, larger wheels, flares, turbo all no problem and no extra cost also RACQ will cover you offroad, their policy states, you are covered when driving anywhere within Australia, does not state that it must be on a road, I asked and was told that as long as there is a visable track you are covered Kev Yes, Im sure like a judge they will accept ignorance as an excuse. Paying up and claiming are 2 different worlds >Allcar or Justcar insurance companies will insure it for you. They insured a >ChevV6 85Forerunner for me. Just drove it down to them and stated that I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >this day dont know if they would have covered it but I sent with my cheque >digital pics of all mods wether relavant or not. >Almost any insurance company will insure you, You havent tried gettin a 5-6in lifted truck insured anywhere in country recently have you? Not a fuckin chance. >toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. A problem with 4wds is that they are often driven quickly by less than experienced drivers who think that they're a larger version of their wife's BMW. The result is that they sometimes fall over because the c of g is higher. ("Drive me like a Porsche and I fall over") Perhaps there is a rationale for special licensing after all ? This is can happen when manoeuvring at excessive (for a 4wd) speed. The result is to dampen the Insurance companies bottom lines, so they aren't real happy with lifts, or 4wders in general. (But they'll accept your premiums until your accident). Incidentally , I wonder how many 4wds have other than factory shocks, and how the insurance company views them in the case of an accident ? I'm starting to wonder how long it will be until any mod is illegal and makes the vehicle un registrable. (Gee thanks Harold) Cheers Jim > Not a fuckin chance. > > >toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. > A problem with 4wds is that they are often driven quickly by less than > experienced drivers who think that they're a larger version of their wife's > BMW. The result is that they sometimes fall over because the c of g is > higher. ("Drive me like a Porsche and I fall over") Perhaps there is a > rationale for special licensing after all ? Ever seen a 4WD hooning around a small suburb with not one road more than 50m in a straight line? Tight curves, speed humps, roundabouts, it's got it all. Yesterday evening, used said suburb to get said a.shole off my tail. I'm very surprised he didn't roll, what with the speed he was going around 20kph turns. I admit i was speeding, but was slowing down for corners that are tight as turns! -mark > > A problem with 4wds is that they are often driven quickly by less than > > experienced drivers who think that they're a larger version of their [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > -mark I can relate to that. One guy on the Gateway Bridge in Brizvagas was driving his L/C in a similar manner. Some people just haven't had their accident yet, and take their driving mindset across when they buy a 4wd. I can usually tell a good 4wd driver in a line of traffic. He leaves a gap between himself and the one in front, knowing that he's driving a 2 ton vehicle with the stopping power of a brick. Unfortunately the dicks in Festivas think that he's just travelling too slow, and pull into his safety space. Cheers Jim Figgen AMEN to that comment!!! Dont know how many times people pull into my stopping space. Bullbar does nothing to discourage them at all. Hmm maybe just a smmmalll shunt would wake em up eh.............. > I can relate to that. One guy on the Gateway Bridge in Brizvagas was > driving [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Cheers > Jim > Figgen AMEN to that comment!!! > > Dont know how many times people pull into my stopping space. Bullbar does > nothing to discourage them at all. Stupid arseholes pull in front of my semi many times a day, if they aren't frightened by a semi a little 4WD will be ignored like it doesn't exist. Daryl > > Figgen AMEN to that comment!!! > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Daryl Semi's scare the hell outta me. Dunno how you put up with the dipstick drivers on the road. I'm talking both cars and cowboys. I would *never* pull in front of one, he might be talking to his g/f on his mobile and not notice me stopping :) Or he might be busy looking for fat i guz (fatigue zone :) Cheers Jim Mate , I have just upgraded from a 2003 TD Hilux to a 100 series Turbo Diesel Manual Landcruiser. I would not have believed it had I not experienced it but the Cruiser is able to corner far quicker than the hi lux and is an absolute breeze to swing around roundabouts. > Ever seen a 4WD hooning around a small suburb with not one road more than > 50m in a straight line? Tight curves, speed humps, roundabouts, it's got it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -mark > Mate , I have just upgraded from a 2003 TD Hilux to a 100 series Turbo > Diesel Manual Landcruiser. I would not have believed it had I not > experienced it but the Cruiser is able to corner far quicker than the hi lux > and is an absolute breeze to swing around roundabouts. Perhaps his suspension was ready for shitcanning then, looked damn close to ending up on its side or roof more than once. I'm talking two wheels up in the air for one corner. Having owned an old limo-wheelbase BMW in the past though, i know exactly what you mean. Sure, it had straight-line power, but you could forget about taking any corner or roundabout faster than 20. -mark my 100 series with lifted suspension corners quite fine never had any moments where it looked like even lifting a wheel I can go around the Bribie Island exit loop at 85kph without a problem, my BA falcon can do it at 95 with the tyres starting to slip I think the worse thing about it is the tyres wearing quite quickly on the outer edges they would have to be loaded up with around 1 tonne each when cornering hard it's a myth about 4WDs rolling easily while driving around corners, the real problem is due to crashes where the 4WD leaves the road or spins on the road, it is then more likely to roll over compared to a normal car Kev > Mate , I have just upgraded from a 2003 TD Hilux to a 100 series Turbo > Diesel Manual Landcruiser. I would not have believed it had I not [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > -mark Depends on the manoeuvre. If you have to swerve violently at speed , the 4wd may roll more easily than a car. Cheers Jim > my 100 series with lifted suspension corners quite fine > never had any moments where it looked like even lifting a wheel [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > > > -mark > Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a > toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle > conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. I am buying the vehicle off a mate. It has been engineered in NSW but a mod plate needs to be fitted to register it in QLD. It only has a 4 inch lift and its all in the suspension. I faxed the engineers report off to a brisbane based engineering firm and they are happy with the way the vehicle has been modified and I just have to take the vehicle in so the engineer can give the vehicle the once over and fit the mod plate. I am insuring the vehicle with Unique car insurance, all my modifications are covered and I am covered off road, even at landcruiser park, personal property is even included. I am going to make sure I get it all in writing. Unique offer unlimited modifications and accessories you just have to advise them. cheers Untill you come to claim that is, let us know when ya rearend some poor bastard. (Not saying that you will just let us know how ya claim goes eh) >> Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a toyota >> surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > cheers it's not a maroon/red colour is it? saw one in Caboolture end of last year had solid axle front and was lifted quite high with 35 inch tyres Kev > Whats legal and whats illegal in Qld. I am thinking about buying a > toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle > conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. > it's not a maroon/red colour is it? > saw one in Caboolture end of last year [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>toyota surf that has a 5 inch lift kit fitted and it has had a live axle >>conversion. If i get it would I be able to register it in queensland. No it's blue and only has 32 inch tyres, are diff lockers legal in QLD? "Nic0" <peterjn@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message > are diff lockers legal in QLD? Dope and porno is illegal, so probably not. |
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