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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (Australian group) / March 2005

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<DaN> - 21 Mar 2005 12:17 GMT
Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?

Im told diesel cars arnt as fast but petrol is burned up more going
through soft sand.

Wich would I be better off getting?

the wheicle will be a hilux.

thanks
~DaN
Rheilly Phoull - 21 Mar 2005 12:56 GMT
> Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?
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> thanks
> ~DaN

Rheilly ducks back under the rock :-)
(Ya could've asked which brand as well so's ya wont be lonely fer a night or
two)

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Regards ..... Rheilly Phoull
Scotty - 21 Mar 2005 13:18 GMT
Get a bit more specific would ya, whats ya purpose for buying the vehicle?
play toy or work hack? Family ute or Weekend warrior? Sand or mud usually?

>> Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?
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> Regards ..... Rheilly Phoull
Wesley - 21 Mar 2005 16:46 GMT
Diesel.  Without a doubt.  Less working parts to break down.  Less electrics
and less prone to water stalling (although in this day and age the diesels
have their fair share of electrical sh#te).  Less chance of a fire
(catalytic converters get extremely hot when under load and cause fires -
hence diesel is choice for farm equipment).  Better economy (though diesel
is more expensive).  It will also idle all day without over heating.

W.

> Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?
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> thanks
> ~DaN
thesnowbaron - 22 Mar 2005 04:56 GMT
Also the exhaust system last much longer. I've had mine nearly twelve years
with the same exhaust.
Frank
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> Diesel.  Without a doubt.  Less working parts to break down.  Less
> electrics and less prone to water stalling (although in this day and age
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>> thanks
>> ~DaN
dusty - 23 Mar 2005 00:33 GMT
> Diesel.  Without a doubt.  Less working parts to break down.  Less electrics
> and less prone to water stalling (although in this day and age the diesels
> have their fair share of electrical sh#te).  Less chance of a fire
> (catalytic converters get extremely hot when under load and cause fires -
> hence diesel is choice for farm equipment).  Better economy (though diesel
> is more expensive).  It will also idle all day without over heating.

I agree, go for a diesel, a lot more low down torque which is what you need
for offroading. I don't know about less parts to break down though, a petrol
motor may have a couple of extra spinning parts ect. but diesels do have a
high pressure pump, usually a turbo and then you can have problems from the
fuel in the cold(if you don't have the right fuel) and creating algae in the
fuel tank,so they can have their fair share a problems too. Don't get me
wrong, I love diesels (especially my latest which is a common rail diesel)
and have owned 2 of them.
The latest diesels have just as much electricals as a petrol motor,if not
more...hell my diesel is even "drive by wire"(no throttle cable,driven by
computer) and has a catalytic converter,so there goes that theory. But yeh I
know what your saying, most diesels prior to 2000 don't have any of this,
but as the years roll on this will be the norm for a diesel.
Barnsey - 22 Mar 2005 13:46 GMT
> Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?
>
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> thanks
> ~DaN

Well this is a touch better than most questions we get here, because he
gives away a vague clue that he wants to drive on sand and it's a Hi
Lux......

I'm not for scaring new people away...........

but more info on "my furst 4wd " would certainly help out.

(not you..others...........personal gripe)

For examle............I want to go up to Cape york. Is it safe?

Do I need a HF? Or should I have helicopter back up?

Specify exactly what you want your car to do, and more info will come your
way,.
Jim - 22 Mar 2005 22:57 GMT
> > Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?
> >
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> Do I need a HF? Or should I have helicopter back up?

No way. All you need is two cans and some string. The string can also be
used to throw meat into the water so that you can get pictures of the
locals.
Be sure to loudly insult the area and its peoples as you get on the barge,
that way you don't have to endure the corregations to the Tip. And mention
to everyone you meet that you could of done it in a 2wd. This will really
boost your popularity.

:)))))))
DaN - 23 Mar 2005 07:25 GMT
I live in the metro area most of my driving is onroad but I have the
oppotunity to go offroad at least 2-3 times a week most of the
offroading in my area is through sand dunes or the pineforest which is
always fun to explore.

I usually make 3-4 trips a year to canarvon (from perth) wich is a
14hour drive approx at 110km/hr so need something that wont overheat
on those trips.
kevcat - 24 Mar 2005 13:18 GMT
go for the diesel if for no other reason than to not have to take so
much extra fuel when you travel long distances
2 jerry cans takes up the same space as 2 cartons of beer

Kev

> I live in the metro area most of my driving is onroad but I have the
> oppotunity to go offroad at least 2-3 times a week most of the
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> 14hour drive approx at 110km/hr so need something that wont overheat
> on those trips.
Axel Hammer - 25 Mar 2005 19:14 GMT
"" schrieb:

> Wich is better for a 4WD? diesel or petrol?

I'd go for a diesel and carry a jerry can petrol with me for the fire
:o)
Try to get an oldschool diesel with as less electronics as possible.
Try to get an inline injection pumpe (not the distributor style).
You can run those vehicles all day long as a workhorse and even fire
them up in summer with pure, filtered vegetable oil (not biodiesel,
don't mix that up!).

BR,

Axel
P.S.: Jim, sched? 20m preferred!
Jim - 27 Mar 2005 01:14 GMT
> "" schrieb:
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> Axel
> P.S.: Jim, sched? 20m preferred!

Hi Axel, been flat out.

Jim
 
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