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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / March 2006Hats Off, a BRILLIANT new designed German Brand & Vehicle
"NORMAL" frugal vehicles look like and *perform* like buzz-boxes, not any more You may or may not like the looks, i think its very space age and modern in a copycat word, nonetheless have to hand it to the Germans its a stunning job and at very very reasonable price STD. EURO 11,000 [AUS$17,700] It shows what can be done with just 20HP 160km/h RWD [allaluya!] STUNNING 1.5L/100km 2+2 seating 0,20cd 1 - 100km/h 20s [Faster than a truck and a Niki:-)] 1300km from only 20L fuel tank WOW Safety, believe it will reach the 5 star rating, they have a Patent on the body structure/design. They also have a 50HP GT Model which is miles fasted and only EURO 4000 more I would like for ALDI sell it, i would be interested in one as a 3rd car/runabout Now the bad news 2009 release....damn! http://www.loremo.com/index_en.php Maybe we can talk them into building in S/Australia at the soon disused Mitsu Plant? > "NORMAL" frugal vehicles look like and *perform* like buzz-boxes, not > any more [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Maybe we can talk them into building in S/Australia at the soon disused > Mitsu Plant? Looks like a paper design; by the looks of it would make an even better solar oven than current designs - how effective is the aircon? Does it meet all ADRs? While the narrow tyres may well provide a good grip, will they stand the roads round here? Quite possibly if it is light enough, but what sort of a ride will it provide over them, and how long will the lightweight body/chassis last on rough roads? JD > mf1@project1221.com< >GO:PT-141 wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Looks like a paper design; No its real, will be released at the Geneva MotorShow tommorow by the looks of it would make an even better > solar oven than current designs - Well thats what happens when you become a slave to cd, now solar panels wonder if they are thinking of those? how effective is the aircon? Wind down the window, not sure about A/C, no worse than a motorcycle:-) Does it meet > all ADRs? Exceeds them, EC has extreme strict regs. for compliance While the narrow tyres may well provide a good grip, will they > stand the roads round here? Dont know, dont see why not Quite possibly if it is light enough, but what > sort of a ride will it provide over them, Dont know imagine it will be bouncy because of light weight? and how long will the lightweight > body/chassis last on rough roads? Being German engineered longer than most already on the road Lets wait and see in 2009 before we formulate a opinio > JD >> mf1@project1221.com中华人民共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים>GO:PT-141 >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > No its real, will be released at the Geneva MotorShow tommorow As a concept car or as a production vehicle? > by the looks of it would make an even better >> solar oven than current designs - > > Well thats what happens when you become a slave to cd, now solar panels > wonder if they are thinking of those? Almost all modern cars are designed by people who live in cold climates. The smaller they are the worse they get as the surface/volume ratio increases. And you can have low cd without sky facing windows - see for example the Citroen DS, and that could have been bettered by simple use of vortex generators to break the airflow away at key locations. > how effective is the aircon? > > Wind down the window, not sure about A/C, no worse than a motorcycle:-) Yes - worse than a motorcycle because you have a sheet of glass over the top of you. But the worst situation is when parked and locked - with the temperature in the shade in the low forties, and January sunshine, I can see the inside temperature when you return to your car easily reaching cooking temperatures - precooked groceries? > Does it meet >> all ADRs? > > Exceeds them, EC has extreme strict regs. for compliance Yes, but their rules are not the same as Australia! Emissions are not the only ADRs. Key problems may be such things as child restraint anchorages, which are peculiar to Australia. > While the narrow tyres may well provide a good grip, will they >> stand the roads round here? > > Dont know, dont see why not Less space for deflection of tyres before the sidewall is pinched between the tread and the rim. The defining characteristic of Australian drivers seems to be that nowhere else do they drive so fast and so far on such rough roads, so we are looking at the impact of potholes and bumps at high speed, for long periods (and add at high temperatures compared to Europe) > Quite possibly if it is light enough, but what >> sort of a ride will it provide over them, > > Dont know imagine it will be bouncy because of light weight? The major problem with lightweight vehicles is providing springing that is soft enough with driver only and hard enough with a full load. The bigger the ratio of disposable load to empty mass the worse the problem - and with this car they are trying to minimise the empty mass. It can easily be solved by using air or hydropneumatic suspension, but there is no mention of that. At least it should not need power steering. > and how long will the lightweight >> body/chassis last on rough roads? > > Being German engineered longer than most already on the road You have greater faith in the ethnicity of the engineering than I do! > Lets wait and see in 2009 before we formulate a opinio By all means - I am just raising questions that need answering - the answers may well be satisfactory. I just have problems with getting excited when there are so many promising designs that look good on paper but turn out to be disasters in reality - if they ever appear on the market. But I think it would be good to have some really light cars on the market - even the smallest cars sold today are a lot heavier than comparable cars of thirty years ago, largely because of demand for performance, comfort, features, safety and durability, many of which have become enshrined in ADRs. >> JD "mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????>GO:PT-141" <auscars@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1141086621.579126.77360@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > "NORMAL" frugal vehicles look like and *perform* like buzz-boxes, not > any more [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I would like for ALDI sell it, i would be interested in one as a 3rd > car/runabout Toys'R'Us perhaps? mf1@project1221.com中华人民共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדיםPT-141& P2 Member - 01 Mar 2006 00:02 GMT <<<<Toys'R'Us perhaps? No, that would be the $50k aBOMBination that haonda built called Insight hybrid. Insight/NSX/Legend[yeah right:-)] WORST 3 RESALES on the market Power Of Dreaming, indeed.... |
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