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Dan--- - 23 Mar 2006 23:44 GMT http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg
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God damn I love it!!! Not 100% sure on the rims but f.ck its aweseom!
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Noddy - 24 Mar 2006 01:24 GMT > http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > God damn I love it!!! > Not 100% sure on the rims but f.ck its aweseom! Yep, they're a great looking car.
I'd be losing the wheels and crappy grille insert if it were mine, and having a polished 6-71 and injector hat sticking out the bonnet as well.
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Ben Thomas - 24 Mar 2006 01:45 GMT >>http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I would gladly have one instead of my Renaul FatArse but I can't afford the 300C.
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Trevor Wilson - 24 Mar 2006 01:55 GMT >> http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yep, they're a great looking car. **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland P76 and almost every large 4WD made? Sure. Other than that, it STILL looks like a 300C. IOW: It looks like a POS. It is STILL the ugliest sedan on the planet. Bar none. Not even the Mitsu 380 is uglier.
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Just JT - 24 Mar 2006 04:14 GMT > **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland P76 > and almost every large 4WD made? Sure. Other than that, it STILL looks > like a 300C. IOW: It looks like a POS. It is STILL the ugliest sedan on > the planet. Bar none. Not even the Mitsu 380 is uglier. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you?
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Trevor Wilson - 24 Mar 2006 04:27 GMT >> **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland P76 >> and almost every large 4WD made? Sure. Other than that, it STILL looks >> like a 300C. IOW: It looks like a POS. It is STILL the ugliest sedan on >> the planet. Bar none. Not even the Mitsu 380 is uglier. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? **Hmmm. (Thinks). Not sure. There's a few nice ones. The Accord Euro is nice (the other one looks like sh.t). The Falcon looks OK. The Commodore is sort of OK. The Mazda 6 is quite nice. I'm warming to the new Beemers, but I still like the look of the old models. Nothing I'd call "pretty", but not unattractive. The 300C is just butt-ugly. REALLY ugly. The most unpleasant looking automobile I've seen since the abominations from the US in the early 1980s. It is surprisingly, staggeringly, stunningly ugly. P76 ugly.
BTW: The Camry is almost as ugly as the 300C.
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Just JT - 24 Mar 2006 05:48 GMT >> So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? > > **Hmmm. (Thinks). Not sure. There's a few nice ones. The Accord Euro is > nice (the other one looks like sh.t). The Falcon looks OK. The Commodore > is sort of OK. The Mazda 6 is quite nice. ~~~~~~~~~~~ I agree the Mazda 6 and Honda Accord Euro (Acura TSX in the US) are gorgeous. But they're four-cylinder FWD cars. If Mazda had a six-cylinder RWD version, I would've considered.
The Falcons and Commodores are okay. But they're used for taxis and fleet cars. Why would I want to drive something which looks like a taxicab or a rental?
So I decided to get the Lexus IS250: 6-cylinder and RWD. For one, it doesn't look like a Telstra service car. For another, I save 20 grand for the same spec of a BMW (BIG MONEY WASTER) 3-series.
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Trevor Wilson - 24 Mar 2006 06:23 GMT >>> So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > doesn't look like a Telstra service car. For another, I save 20 grand for > the same spec of a BMW (BIG MONEY WASTER) 3-series. **NO argument from me. The IS250 looks like an excellent choice on paper. As for looks, it is the same as all the Lexus range. Ordinary.
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Trevor Wilson - 24 Mar 2006 06:24 GMT >> **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland P76 >> and almost every large 4WD made? Sure. Other than that, it STILL looks >> like a 300C. IOW: It looks like a POS. It is STILL the ugliest sedan on >> the planet. Bar none. Not even the Mitsu 380 is uglier. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? **Additions and amplifications. Of the Falcons, I find the XR series to be particularly attractive. Some of the Subaru Liberty range look bloody good.
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Just JT - 25 Mar 2006 08:44 GMT >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? > > **Additions and amplifications. Of the Falcons, I find the XR series to be > particularly attractive. ~~~~~~~~~ So you find Australian taxicabs and Telstra fleetcars attractive?
> Some of the Subaru Liberty range look bloody good. ~~~~~~~~~ I nearly bought one but the styling is too conservative (read = boring).
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Noddy - 25 Mar 2006 09:14 GMT > I nearly bought one but the styling is too conservative (read = boring). You think Subaru make a boring car but you're buying a Lexus?
Jesus Christ.... :)
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Just JT - 25 Mar 2006 20:38 GMT > You think Subaru make a boring car ~~~~~~~~~~ The Subaru is a wolf in sheep's clothing: too conservative for my tastes.
> but you're buying a Lexus? ~~~~~~~~~~ My Lexus doesn't look like a Camry! :-)
> Jesus Christ.... :) ~~~~~~~~~~ We're getting religious now, aren't we? :-D
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Snoozin - 24 Mar 2006 10:11 GMT Just JT Wrote:
> > **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland > P76 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > ACamry? Peugeot 407! Followed closely by the Alfa 156
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Just JT - 24 Mar 2006 23:16 GMT >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? >> > Peugeot 407! ~~~~~~~~~~~ This one?
http://www.peugeot.com.au/PEUGEOT/AU/me.get?site.sectionshow&FFFF1043
> Followed closely by the Alfa 156 ~~~~~~~~~~ This one?
http://www.alfaromeo.com.au/default.asp?action=article&ID=24
Gawd, I think you need your EYES EXAMINED! :-)
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reg-john - 25 Mar 2006 11:13 GMT >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> So what is the PRETTIEST sedan to you? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > MaybeLaserWillRemoveTheCataractsInYourEyesLOL mate anyone who thinks a mazda6 is gorgeous has serious taste problems.
Noddy - 24 Mar 2006 07:11 GMT "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:4423436a$0$55951$c30e37c6@ken-
> **Great looking? In what sense? That it looks better than a Leyland P76 > and almost every large 4WD made? Sure. Other than that, it STILL looks > like a 300C. IOW: It looks like a POS. It is STILL the ugliest sedan on > the planet. Bar none. Not even the Mitsu 380 is uglier. You're tastes are clearly 3 feet lower than crocodile piss :)
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Trevor Wilson - 25 Mar 2006 06:38 GMT > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:4423436a$0$55951$c30e37c6@ken- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You're tastes are clearly 3 feet lower than crocodile piss :) **Well, I just went for a drive and took the boss with me. I pointed at one in the local car yard (they sell Beemers too). "Humph". She said. "It sure is one ugly car. I can't put my finger on it, but it just looks all wrong". By comparison, the big BMWs (which she also doesn't like) looks nice.
You said earlier that you'd compare the 300C to a Fairlane. Why not consider a Fairlane? At least they look as though they were designed within the last few years. Do you REALLY like the looks of the 300C, or is it the equipment and specs? I would never argue that point. Consider the Subaru WRX. One butt-ugly car, but I would own one. Brilliant on the road. Besides, like the 300C, when you're driving the thing, you don't have to look at it.
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Noddy - 25 Mar 2006 09:22 GMT "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:4424d751$0$55954$c30e37c6@ken-
> **Well, I just went for a drive and took the boss with me. I pointed at > one in the local car yard (they sell Beemers too). "Humph". She said. "It > sure is one ugly car. I can't put my finger on it, but it just looks all > wrong". By comparison, the big BMWs (which she also doesn't like) looks > nice. Well, you and your boss seem to be in the minority.
Most people I've spoken to think the 300C looks great, and the fact that it's selling extremely well would seem to suggest that a lot of people agree.
> You said earlier that you'd compare the 300C to a Fairlane. Why not > consider a Fairlane? At least they look as though they were designed > within the last few years. The Fairlane looks extremely cheap and nasty, and that's exactly why it's sales figures are very poor.
> Do you REALLY like the looks of the 300C, or is it the equipment and > specs? I like the all round package, and think the car looks sensational.
It has a fantastic engine, a great interior package and a physical pressence that's very impressive. It epitomises the *perfect* cruiser to me, which is exactly what I think it is.
> I would never argue that point. Consider the Subaru WRX. One butt-ugly > car, but I would own one. Brilliant on the road. Besides, like the 300C, > when you're driving the thing, you don't have to look at it. Yeah, but if that was *really* the case, the last model Magna would have sold very well :)
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Dan--- - 26 Mar 2006 07:45 GMT > Well, you and your boss seem to be in the minority. > > Most people I've spoken to think the 300C looks great, and the fact that > it's selling extremely well would seem to suggest that a lot of people > agree. I saw about 4 of them yesterday all head turning. Awesome cruisers.
:-)
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Uncle Bully - 25 Mar 2006 13:13 GMT >> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >> news:4423436a$0$55951$c30e37c6@ken- [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wrong". By comparison, the big BMWs (which she also doesn't like) looks > nice. It ain't a chick's car, it's a BLOKE car.
> You said earlier that you'd compare the 300C to a Fairlane. Why not > consider a Fairlane? At least they look as though they were designed [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Besides, like the 300C, when you're driving the thing, you don't have to > look at it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know lots of blokes that love the look, I don't know one female that does. It would seem that you are sitting in with the girls on this one.
Trevor Wilson - 26 Mar 2006 08:31 GMT >>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message >>> news:4423436a$0$55951$c30e37c6@ken- [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > It ain't a chick's car, it's a BLOKE car. **The 300C has power steering, right? That makes it a chick's car in my book. Both my VH Dunny dore and VL (shod with 225 tyres) had no power assisted steering. No chick could park it. In fact, a goodly number of girly boys had trouble with it as well.
>> You said earlier that you'd compare the 300C to a Fairlane. Why not >> consider a Fairlane? At least they look as though they were designed [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > look, I don't know one female that does. > It would seem that you are sitting in with the girls on this one. **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with their company. I guess that is why I've never had any difficulty getting laid. You stay with the keg and your 300C. I'll hang with the women.
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Noddy - 26 Mar 2006 09:40 GMT "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:44264348$0$55943$c30e37c6@ken-
> **The 300C has power steering, right? That makes it a chick's car in my > book. Both my VH Dunny dore and VL (shod with 225 tyres) had no power > assisted steering. No chick could park it. In fact, a goodly number of > girly boys had trouble with it as well. Wow.
So, doing things the hard way makes you a blokey bloke? :)
> **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with their > company. I guess that is why I've never had any difficulty getting laid. > You stay with the keg and your 300C. I'll hang with the women. Lol :)
That's just so sad :)
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Trevor Wilson - 26 Mar 2006 20:43 GMT > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:44264348$0$55943$c30e37c6@ken- [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So, doing things the hard way makes you a blokey bloke? :) **Duh.
>> **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with their >> company. I guess that is why I've never had any difficulty getting laid. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's just so sad :) **Oh yeah. Real sad. NOT!
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Rod - 26 Mar 2006 23:47 GMT > >> **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with their > >> company. I guess that is why I've never had any difficulty getting laid. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > **Oh yeah. Real sad. NOT! Well... not sad if it's what actually happens.
Bring it up as a point in a conversation that's totally unrelated to the conversation on the internet, it's real real... real sad.
One point that I seem to be missing, you say a 300C is a girls car therefore the OP would be sitting next to a girl if he stayed with his 300C, so you're telling him to hang with women as well.
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Trevor Wilson - 27 Mar 2006 05:22 GMT >> >> **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with >> >> their [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > therefore the OP would be sitting next to a girl if he stayed with > his 300C, so you're telling him to hang with women as well. **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto.
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Noddy - 27 Mar 2006 06:23 GMT "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:442765ef$0$55949$c30e37c6@ken-
> **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. You've conducted an extensive survey about this, or you just have a "gut feeling" because you know what women want? :)
Personally, I couldn't give a rats what women think looks good or not. I don't buy cars to please them (or anyone else).
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Dan--- - 27 Mar 2006 08:12 GMT > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > news:442765ef$0$55949$c30e37c6@ken- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You've conducted an extensive survey about this, or you just have a "gut > feeling" because you know what women want? :) Must of ask the womans opinion about it on red letter day. :-)
> Personally, I couldn't give a rats what women think looks good or not. I > don't buy cars to please them (or anyone else). Agreed your the one paying for your cars not anyone else.
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Fraser Johnston - 27 Mar 2006 07:46 GMT > **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. My wife doesn't think so.
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Dan--- - 27 Mar 2006 08:12 GMT >> **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. > > My wife doesn't think so. My mrs loves them.
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Ron - 27 Mar 2006 08:25 GMT "Dan---" <trollsrstupid@noemail.com> wrote in news:44278b47$0$21301 $5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>>> **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. >> >> My wife doesn't think so. > > My mrs loves them. So does mine. It's a bit like the Daimler Limousine versus the Jaguar 420G. Wife thinks the Daimler is butt ugly and the other really nice, as do a lot of women. Then there are the others who think the Daimler is regal and beautiful and the lines of the 420G suck! :-)
Good thing we all have different tastes.
The ones who think the 300C is hideous are possibly the people who think the new magna is stunning :-)
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Fraser Johnston - 27 Mar 2006 08:30 GMT >>> **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. >> >> My wife doesn't think so. > > My mrs loves them. Looks like we both have women with good taste.
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Dan--- - 27 Mar 2006 23:41 GMT >> My mrs loves them. > > Looks like we both have women with good taste. Looks that way. :-)
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atec77 - 27 Mar 2006 08:31 GMT > **Except that most women feel the 300C is hideous looking auto. You are wrong wilson , in one of the us groups the demographic for the 300 is described as gansta and a lot of Yankee biatches like that and have a major influence on the ownership on cars styled in that manner , carry on all you want but you have no f.cking idea You woman might find it unattractive but considering who she is hanging with I am not surprised.
Just JT - 27 Mar 2006 02:19 GMT > **I like sitting with the girls. I've always been comfortable with their > company. I guess that is why I've never had any difficulty getting laid. > You stay with the keg and your 300C. I'll hang with the women. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your LEFT and RIGHT HANDS do not COUNT AS WOMEN! :-D
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Toby Ponsenby - 28 Mar 2006 10:10 GMT > Your LEFT and RIGHT HANDS do not COUNT AS WOMEN! :-D Whaa...... even if they do a better job?
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mickd - 24 Mar 2006 04:58 GMT yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check some of the reviews !
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Trevor Wilson - 24 Mar 2006 08:31 GMT > yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check > some of the reviews ! **Wouldn't surprise me. I was in the US in 1995. The only RWD car I could rent was a Ford T-Bird. It was actually pretty decent on the road. Some friends rented a Oldsmobile something or other. It was big and had good headroom for my mate who is nearly 2 Metres tall. When he was in the T-Bird, I had to open the Sunroof for him. Anyway, I rode in his rental car one night through the car park of Caesar's Palace. It FELT like someone had stripped the car down, removed the springs and shocks and replaced them with foam rubber. It was a horrible car.
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Uncle Bully - 24 Mar 2006 10:02 GMT > yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check > some of the reviews ! Um, it's not a race car.
Noddy - 24 Mar 2006 10:59 GMT "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.Remove> wrote in message news:4423b5af$0$10677
> Um, it's not a race car. No, it's not, and that's an important point most people who criticise it seem to overlook.
Anyone who downloaded the video kicking around a couple of weeks ago would be reasonably impressed with it's ability on the track for a 4000+lb car. From the looks of things, it would most likely be on a par with a Falcadore, and that would do me just dandy.
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John Hudson - 24 Mar 2006 11:23 GMT >> yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check >> some of the reviews ! > > Um, it's not a race car. No excuse. Neither is a Jaguar XJ (1968 - ) No one has ever complained about the handling. huddo
Noddy - 24 Mar 2006 12:27 GMT > No excuse. Neither is a Jaguar XJ (1968 - ) No one has ever complained > about the handling. Jaguar XJ's were always built and sold as "sports cars".
They might have been the worlds heaviest sports car, and they might not have been a true sports car in the traditional sense, but that is what their chassis engineering was aimed at (and for what it's worth, I think they did a good job considering the weight of the things, and their other "shortcomings).
The 300C doesn't seem to be aimed at anything other than being a comfortable cruiser, much like a Statesman or LTD. That doesn't make it a bad car, just a *different* one.
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Andy - 25 Mar 2006 03:12 GMT >>>yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check >>>some of the reviews ! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the handling. > huddo They were too busy complaining about the unreliability.
Andy.
Uncle Bully - 25 Mar 2006 13:05 GMT >>> yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check >>> some of the reviews ! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No excuse. Neither is a Jaguar XJ (1968 - ) No one has ever complained > about the handling. You're comparing a $60k car with a $150k one?
John Hudson - 25 Mar 2006 14:12 GMT >>>> yeah they look mean but apparently handle like a beached whale....check >>>> some of the reviews ! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You're comparing a $60k car with a $150k one? No, I'm comparing a $60k car with a $6k one. About time they caught up.
Noddy - 25 Mar 2006 14:30 GMT > No, I'm comparing a $60k car with a $6k one. About time they caught up. 6 grand for an XJ series Jag is being a tad optimistic, doncha think? :)
The XJ might handle reasonably well for a big heavy car, but only a person with a very loose grip on reality could suggest that they're a very good handling machine. They were *good* for what they were, but in the grand scheme of things they were never brilliant. Not by *any* stretch of the imagination.
Given the massive failings of the rest of the XJ, the 300C couldn't be as bad is it was built in Czechoslovakia by a bunch of Gypsies with Down syndrome.
-- Regards, Noddy.
Fraser Johnston - 24 Mar 2006 02:23 GMT > http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > God damn I love it!!! > Not 100% sure on the rims but f.ck its aweseom! The 22" badge on the side is a bit wanky too.
Fraser
Ron - 24 Mar 2006 04:53 GMT "Dan---" <trollsrstupid@noemail.com> wrote in news:442324b5$0$4676$5a62ac22 @per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
> http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > God damn I love it!!! > Not 100% sure on the rims but f.ck its aweseom! Car is nice, wheels suck!
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tlai909@visto.com - 24 Mar 2006 05:43 GMT styling like beauty is always subjective
you just have to get into that West coast rapper, East coast mafia type vibe.
Tony Soprano would love the 300c.
I like it. It isn't pretty but it's purposeful like a Cadillac CTS-V or even a Escalade.
Just JT - 24 Mar 2006 23:23 GMT > I like it. It isn't pretty but it's purposeful like a Cadillac CTS-V or > even a Escalade. ~~~~~~~~~ If the 300C were to come in six-speed manual transmission, I would consider it in my short list.
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Rod - 24 Mar 2006 10:16 GMT In article <442324b5$0$4676$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader- 01.iinet.net.au>, trollsrstupid@noemail.com says...
> http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > God damn I love it!!! > Not 100% sure on the rims but f.ck its aweseom! That car is doing the rounds.. there's a white one that also looks the goods. Showcase the car really well, but off the showroom it still looks a touch dodgy to me.
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Stan Marsh - 26 Mar 2006 12:44 GMT I spotted this car in Albury today. It was at the chryslers on the murray car show. Pete
> http://www.hioctane.com.au/misc/300c_01.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Regards > Dan
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