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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / April 2006Commodore VT front wheel bearing.
Damn it! Holden decided to overdesign the front suspension and the good old stub axle is gone. Instead is a bolt on sealed hub unit. Instead of a $50 set of wheel bearings and some grease it now sets you back $500 for a non-repairable hub assembly. VT onwards Commodore owners are going to get mighty annoyed years from now when their cheap second hand car needs new bearings. PS. My car has less than 110,000K so why did a wheel bearing fail? Common according to the dealer, yet my 32year old car is going fine on it's original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a repacking after each brake change.  SignatureThe Raven http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3 ** Now I will bring chaos to the world! > Damn it! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a > repacking after each brake change. I've had two VTs One had 160k km before I sold it with zero issues. The other I still have at 135k km and have so far the only non trivial work done is a leaking radiator, and a leaking water pump (strangely both happened this month). >> Damn it! >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > work done is a leaking radiator, and a leaking water pump (strangely both > happened this month). I'm not complaining about the Commodore per se, just the weird wheel bearing design that differs from a time proven, cost effective to build, cost effective to maintain design. As a side issue, given the over-design of this part why can't the bearing last as long as your traditional $50 set of bearings? Seems like a case of overengineering for the sake of it, then it still doesn't perform as well as the time proven solution, and costs a 1000% more to maintain. Other manufacturers are doing similar things. When will they realise that the majority of drivers can't even comprehend whether there car is FWD or RWD. SignatureThe Raven http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3 ** Now I will bring chaos to the world! >>> Damn it! >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > doesn't perform as well as the time proven solution, and costs a 1000% > more to maintain. Manufacturers don't care about the second, third or fourth owners. They want the cheapest possible parts to last only as long as the warranty. The assembly is probably much chepaer to install while building which serves their purpose. > Other manufacturers are doing similar things. When will they realise that > the majority of drivers can't even comprehend whether there car is FWD or > RWD. > I'm not complaining about the Commodore per se, just the weird wheel > bearing design that differs from a time proven, cost effective to build, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the majority of drivers can't even comprehend whether there car is FWD or > RWD. Actually, from memory that style of wheel bearing was introduced in the VR or there abouts and had something to do with ABS. Reaper >> I'm not complaining about the Commodore per se, just the weird wheel >> bearing design that differs from a time proven, cost effective to build, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Actually, from memory that style of wheel bearing was introduced in the VR > or there abouts and had something to do with ABS. Yep. > Damn it! > > Holden decided to overdesign the front suspension and the good old stub > axle is gone. Instead is a bolt on sealed hub unit. Instead of a $50 set > of wheel bearings and some grease it now sets you back $500 for a > non-repairable hub assembly. Is that the non-genuine price? Try genuine, because last time I checked they were substantially cheaper then the non-genuine replacements. > VT onwards Commodore owners are going to get mighty annoyed years from now > when their cheap second hand car needs new bearings. Neh, I'm glad serviceable wheel bearing are gone because it's a shitjob, not that I have to do them these days. > PS. My car has less than 110,000K so why did a wheel bearing fail? Common > according to the dealer, More common for them not to fail, and to fail at 110,000km probably means the wheel has met a kerb or two in it's lifetime. yet my 32year old car is going fine on it's > original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a > repacking after each brake change. Plenty of serviceable wheel bearings didn't last 100,000km either, depending on application and service interval. If its a vt series one you can get after market hubs, but the series two changed. >> Damn it! >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Plenty of serviceable wheel bearings didn't last 100,000km either, > depending on application and service interval. > If its a vt series one you can get after market hubs, but the series two > changed. Yes, I know, but the genuine ones were cheaper! >> Damn it! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Is that the non-genuine price? Try genuine, because last time I checked > they were substantially cheaper then the non-genuine replacements. Genuine part from a dealer. >> VT onwards Commodore owners are going to get mighty annoyed years from >> now when their cheap second hand car needs new bearings. > > Neh, I'm glad serviceable wheel bearing are gone because it's a shitjob, > not that I have to do them these days. Better to have servicable stuff that can be fixed easily/cheaply. >> PS. My car has less than 110,000K so why did a wheel bearing fail? Common >> according to the dealer, > > More common for them not to fail, and to fail at 110,000km probably means > the wheel has met a kerb or two in it's lifetime. Nope, zero evidence of that. > yet my 32year old car is going fine on it's >> original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a >> repacking after each brake change. > > Plenty of serviceable wheel bearings didn't last 100,000km either, > depending on application and service interval. Yeah, but they don't cost $500 to replace either.... SignatureThe Raven http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3 ** Now I will bring chaos to the world! >>> Damn it! >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Better to have servicable stuff that can be fixed easily/cheaply. Neh, they hardly ever need replacing and replacing the hub is no more difficult then servicing the bearings, in fact easier. You could always get a hub from a wrecker. >>> PS. My car has less than 110,000K so why did a wheel bearing fail? >>> Common according to the dealer, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nope, zero evidence of that. Have you had the car from new? >> yet my 32year old car is going fine on it's >>> original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah, but they don't cost $500 to replace either.... Probably not much in it if you factor servicing costs over the lifetime of the vehicle. It's just unfortunate if the hub fails prematurely. > Damn it! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > original bearings after untold K's, racing, general abuse, and perhaps a > repacking after each brake change. The most common reason is low profile tyres (16" wheels and bigger) running over railway lines and pot holes. Unfortunatly that is a side effect of cool wheels. I broke a bearing on my VXII SS driving over a rougher than expected train crossing. Reaper |
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