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Ford EA timing chain tensioner ??????????????? HELP

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Lee - 09 Apr 2006 10:27 GMT
Any tips on re-engaging the tensioner on the 3.9 litre motor????????????
I disengaged the tension but now have spent an hour or so trying to put
tension back on with no success.
Im using a 3mm key with the plastic around it and pushing and turning
anticlockwise like it ssays in the manual.
Ive had others try it as well and same deal...
What the hell is the trick on getting it engaged again??????
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
atec77 - 09 Apr 2006 10:32 GMT
> Any tips on re-engaging the tensioner on the 3.9 litre motor????????????
> I disengaged the tension but now have spent an hour or so trying to put
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> What the hell is the trick on getting it engaged again??????
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Various methods , I remove the whole thing , reset and reintroduce but
someone will explain the right way .
D Walford - 09 Apr 2006 11:12 GMT
> Any tips on re-engaging the tensioner on the 3.9 litre motor????????????
> I disengaged the tension but now have spent an hour or so trying to put
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> What the hell is the trick on getting it engaged again??????
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you tried momentarily turning the allen key clockwise then
anticlockwise?
If that fails remove the tensioner and see why its jammed.

Daryl
Lee - 09 Apr 2006 12:43 GMT
yes tried turning it both ways
Does the slot it fits in a 3mm allen head?
Why is the piece of plastic needed over the allen key?
I forgot to put plastic over it ....could i have f.cked up something??
Its not easy to remove unless you remove waterpump which i put on a few days
ago and didnt really want to do it. Maybe i can make the special tool up

> Any tips on re-engaging the tensioner on the 3.9 litre motor????????????
> I disengaged the tension but now have spent an hour or so trying to put
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> What the hell is the trick on getting it engaged again??????
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason James - 09 Apr 2006 16:48 GMT
> yes tried turning it both ways
> Does the slot it fits in a 3mm allen head?
> Why is the piece of plastic needed over the allen key?
> I forgot to put plastic over it ....could i have f.cked up something??
> Its not easy to remove unless you remove waterpump which i put on a few days
> ago and didnt really want to do it. Maybe i can make the special tool up

From my effort with an EA a few mths ago:

That plastic tube ensures you depress the tesnioner spring cap while then
turning the cap to engage in the holdown bayonet fitting. Then once you have
finished installing the chain, you twist the allen-key in reverse while
exerting inwards tension (courtesy of the plastic-tube). This releases the
spring tensioner to do its job.

Must admit it looked wierd to me as I thought you'd release spring ternsion
during this allen key operation, not force it to near maximum before
releasing. FWIW, the chain-track was broken on the other side. Since it had
been that way for yonks and I was getting pissed off with this freeby,.I
just left it broken,..the engine didnt seem to mind,...cough cough!

Jason
D Walford - 10 Apr 2006 06:20 GMT
>>yes tried turning it both ways
>>Does the slot it fits in a 3mm allen head?
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> been that way for yonks and I was getting pissed off with this freeby,.I
> just left it broken,..the engine didnt seem to mind,...cough cough!

Good idea not to bother, I've replaced one and I would only do one again
if it was 100% necessary.
To get the timing cover back on you need to drop the sump which is a
prick of a job in car, it would be easier to remove the engine.

Daryl

Daryl
D Walford - 10 Apr 2006 06:16 GMT
> yes tried turning it both ways
> Does the slot it fits in a 3mm allen head?

3mm is the correct size allen key.

> Why is the piece of plastic needed over the allen key?

Don't know I've never bothered with it, just used a plain allen key.

> I forgot to put plastic over it ....could i have f.cked up something??

Don't think so.
You may have over tightened it, can you move it at all?

> Its not easy to remove unless you remove waterpump which i put on a few days
> ago and didnt really want to do it. Maybe i can make the special tool up

?? No need to remove the water pump to remove the tensioner, just undo
the retainer and it should pull straight out.
Top undo the retainer I use a couple of pins and screwdriver but it
would be easier and better to make a tool.

Daryl
Jason James - 10 Apr 2006 08:32 GMT
> > yes tried turning it both ways
> > Does the slot it fits in a 3mm allen head?
>
> 3mm is the correct size allen key.
>
> > Why is the piece of plastic needed over the allen key?

The key without the plastic tube will just slip thru the whole tensioner
doing nothing except allwing you to turn the spring cap,..but with the
tube,.which has to be stout plastic, as you insert the key (handle in, not
the short bit) the tube fouls on the cap and presses it against the spring
thus compressing it and positionong it close to the bayonet bit,..not sure
what all this was supposed to do,..you could achieve the same thing just
screwing it out,..then screwing it back on assembly.

Jason

> Don't know I've never bothered with it, just used a plain allen key.
>
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>
> Daryl
Lee - 10 Apr 2006 07:21 GMT
thanks for help everyone
I visited a wrecker and checked one out
Mine was seized up and missing the part where the allen key engages
So there was never any tension on the chain
Got one for $10 which i just put in
Wish i had the tool to go in the 2 holes would make life easier
regards Lee
Some butcher was obviously working on it before

> Any tips on re-engaging the tensioner on the 3.9 litre motor????????????
> I disengaged the tension but now have spent an hour or so trying to put
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> What the hell is the trick on getting it engaged again??????
> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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