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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / April 2006How much is the 380 discounted by on government contracts?
around $9,000 >around $9,000 Interesting, can you tell me what the discount is on a Xerox laser printer? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>around $9,000 > > Interesting, can you tell me what the discount is on a Xerox laser > printer? Who cares? Is not Mitsubishi the ones who said they would not discount? And dont 70% of their sales go to the Government? And how many 380s have they sold? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>around $9,000 >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Is not Mitsubishi the ones who said they would not discount? And dont 70% >of their sales go to the Government? And how many 380s have they sold? Bwaaahhahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahaaaa! Tell me, what is the Govt discount on a Falcon, or a Commodore, or even a Camry? Do you know what that "discount" is comprises of? Do you know just one small thing about Govt contracts? What is it with you lunatics and your fixation on Mitsubishi? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:44:35 +1000, <OzOne> wrote in message news:aog8429bqpl6oo850jfdl1l1pf208oonhm@4ax.com... > What is it with you lunatics and your fixation on Mitsubishi? Bwaaahhahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahaaaa!  Signaturea9x5l >On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:44:35 +1000, <OzOne> wrote in message news:aog8429bqpl6oo850jfdl1l1pf208oonhm@4ax.com... > >> What is it with you lunatics and your fixation on Mitsubishi? > >Bwaaahhahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahaaaa! Exactly! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Bwaaahhahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahaaaa! Strange, you lose every argument right after you type "Bwa". -mark Its not the upfront discount, its the resale that most managers are really concerned about. > >>>around $9,000 > >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >Its not the upfront discount, its the resale that most managers are really >concerned about. Exactly..the guys a clown. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > >Its not the upfront discount, its the resale that most managers are really > >concerned about. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) >But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) Now that depends on what the original contract price dunnit. Seems the 380 is holding it's value pretty well http://tinyurl.com/rqryh Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Tell me when they sell them for those prices, especially when I can lease a V-RX for $9,000 of the rrp. What is the Redbook value of a 380? >>>But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Tell me when they sell them for those prices, especially when I can lease a >V-RX for $9,000 of the rrp. What are you talking about? If you can get a Govt lease car..get one and stop whining. >What is the Redbook value of a 380? Look it up! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >> What is the Redbook value of a 380? > > Look it up! What does S.F.A mean when redbook uses that comment and the 380 as a quote for price ? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>> What is the Redbook value of a 380? >> >> Look it up! > What does S.F.A mean Dunno, maybe if you look at the report than came with the last xray you had of your head, it'll give you a clue. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > What are you talking about? > If you can get a Govt lease car..get one and stop whining. You still have not answered why any fool would pay those over inflated prices for a second hand 380 VrX. Nor have you answered my question about how much you can get off a Fairlane/Statesman. Or is all your talk about "I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and liabilities here as well as details of any maintenance plans coincidental with the various contract" just hand flapping and you dont have a clue? >>What is the Redbook value of a 380? > > Look it up! I did. Guess what? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>Tell me when they sell them for those prices, especially when I can lease >>>a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >You still have not answered why any fool would pay those over inflated >prices for a second hand 380 VrX. OK, I'll say it slowly. The prices are not "over inflated" nor even inflated. The fact that you can 'lease' a VRX at some Govt discount rate has absobloodylootly nothing to do with Joe Public buying a car, new or 2nd hand. He needs to pay the price the dealer asks with some negotiation NOT a price given to a Govt that is buying thousands of vehicles annually. >Nor have you answered my question about >how much you can get off a Fairlane/Statesman. I have absolutely no idea what you could get off a Statesman, you're the guy who can get $9000 off a 380...you find out. >Or is all your talk about >"I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and >liabilities here as well as details of any maintenance plans coincidental >with the various contract" > just hand flapping and you dont have a clue? Huh? You're the one tossing around numbers...and ranting about the different contract prices (that you call discounts) offered by various manufacturers so, I'll say it again "I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and liabilities here as well as details of any maintenance plans coincidental with the various contract" That would go some way toward explaining your dilema. >>>What is the Redbook value of a 380? >> >> Look it up! > >I did. Guess what? Let me guess...It's too early for them to be in there. No reliable data yet. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>Tell me when they sell them for those prices, especially when I can >>>>lease [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > absobloodylootly nothing to do with Joe Public buying a car, new or > 2nd hand. Yes it does. The value tells me how inflated the car auctions of ex-gov cars are. And so do the dealers. > He needs to pay the price the dealer asks with some negotiation NOT a > price given to a Govt that is buying thousands of vehicles annually. Errr the government is buying thousands of 380s? To use your words: Bwahh! >>Nor have you answered my question about >>how much you can get off a Fairlane/Statesman. > > I have absolutely no idea what you could get off a Statesman, you're > the guy who can get $9000 off a 380...you find out. I know. It makes getting the Statesman, the pollies favourite car a better choice than the 380. Ohh the Fairlane looks sh.t from the outside, but is not the Falcon a better car overall than a Commodore? So a Fairlane is better than a Commodore: or even a 380. >>Or is all your talk about >>"I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > different contract prices (that you call discounts) offered by various > manufacturers so, Do you know the national fleet "contract" prices then? Not as good as government prices but it does indicate how much fat there there are in them cars. I'll say it again > "I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and > liabilities here as well as details of any maintenance plans [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Let me guess...It's too early for them to be in there. > No reliable data yet. Would the 380 be percieved by fleet managers to have the same resale value as a Magna and thats why they are not buying them? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Oh the discount ont he Fairlane is around 20G's >>>>>Tell me when they sell them for those prices, especially when I can >>>>>lease [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Yes it does. The value tells me how inflated the car auctions of ex-gov >cars are. And so do the dealers. OK, close to english....prices at auctions are inflated? Tell me Dick, what inflates the prices? And so do the dealers? Lost me here >> He needs to pay the price the dealer asks with some negotiation NOT a >> price given to a Govt that is buying thousands of vehicles annually. > >Errr the government is buying thousands of 380s? To use your words: Bwahh! Bwaaahahhahahahhahah! You have 380 in your brain, you see them everywhere. If you want one, buy one but in the meantime, try and concentrate on the words as they are written. >>>Nor have you answered my question about >>>how much you can get off a Fairlane/Statesman. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >not the Falcon a better car overall than a Commodore? So a Fairlane is >better than a Commodore: or even a 380. Good for you..... >>>Or is all your talk about >>>"I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >government prices but it does indicate how much fat there there are in them >cars. Huh? > I'll say it again >> "I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Would the 380 be percieved by fleet managers to have the same resale value >as a Magna and thats why they are not buying them? But they are buying them. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Would the 380 be percieved by fleet managers to have the same resale > value as a Magna and thats why they are not buying them? Interesting, carsales.com.au: Mitseeshitsee 380 Magna, dealer used cars, 82, private sales 2. Ranging from 10 to 10,000km?? Mitseeshitsee 380 Magna, new cars 114! Must be one hell of a flop! :-) The secondhand dealers are trying to get new car prices on the old ones..LOL I'll bet if you offered them a third of that price, they would be all over you like a rash :-) This is the same path the Leyland, Marina and P76 went. FWIW, Redbook: 2005 Magna Trade in price guide* $14,000 - $15,700 price when new $33,890 2005 Commodore Trade in price guide* $16,200 - $18,400 price when new $33,650 2005 Falcon Trade in price guide* $16,100 - $17,900 price wnen new $34,555 I seriously doubt anyone could get 14 grand for a 2005 magna. SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth >> Would the 380 be percieved by fleet managers to have the same resale >> value as a Magna and thats why they are not buying them? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >I seriously doubt anyone could get 14 grand for a 2005 magna. I like thes numbers better Jaguar S Type Prices based on km 10,000 - 20,000 Trade in price guide* $81,800 - $88,100 National average price - private sale* $91,900 - $102,600 Price when new (RRP) $124,990 Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>> Would the 380 be percieved by fleet managers to have the same resale >>> value as a Magna and thats why they are not buying them? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > National average price - private sale* $91,900 - $102,600 > Price when new (RRP) $124,990 Anyone is was silly enough to buy a S-Type Forduar, deserves to be ripped off! However, seeing the others WRE 2005: 2005 JAGUAR S-TYPE X204 SE Sedan 4dr Auto 6sp 3.0i Prices based on km 10,000 - 20,000 Trade in price guide* $57,900 - $62,600 National average price - private sale* $65,900 - $73,900 Price when new (RRP) $89,990 Now, how about this for a waste of money?? 2005 MITSUBISHI PAJERO NP MY05 GLX Wagon 7st 4dr Man 5sp 4x4 3.8i Prices based on km 15,000 - 25,000 Trade in price guide* $29,000 - $31,800 National average price - private sale* $33,600 - $38,400 Price when new (RRP) $48,190 2005 MITSUBISHI VERADA KW Ei Sedan 4dr SA 5sp 3.5i Prices based on km 15,000 - 25,000 Trade in price guide* $18,900 - $21,000 National average price - private sale* $22,400 - $25,900 Price when new (RRP) $42,990 2004 MITSUBISHI NIMBUS UG MY03 GLX Wagon 7st 4dr Man 5sp 2.4i Prices based on km 30,000 - 50,000 Trade in price guide* $20,000 - $22,100 National average price - private sale* $23,400 - $27,000 Price when new (RRP) $39,990 SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth >> >Its not the upfront discount, its the resale that most managers are > really [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > But the 380 loses on both counts. :-) Is the resale of a Fairlane vs that of a Statesman so much lower that even with the upfront discount it is not worth taking on a Fairlane? > Its not the upfront discount, its the resale that most managers are really > concerned about. Actually it's both. To put it in as basic terms as possible for the simpletons out there: (Purchase price of car - Resale price of car) + the cost of financing the car = vehicle cost. The differences in fuel usage between the 6 cyl 380/Falcon/Commodore are not as high on the priority list as the vehicle cost as defined above. Reaper > around $9,000 What about Commodores? SignatureBen Thomas, Melbourne, Australia "Red Bull tastes like canned carbonated concentrated evil." >> around $9,000 > > What about Commodores? $6,000 Kym Kim \(Noturyulo\) Wrote: > >> around $9,000 > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > "Red Bull tastes like canned carbonated concentrated evil." Is that with or without a glovebox full of recall letters :-) SignatureSnoozin >>> around $9,000 >> >> What about Commodores? > > $6,000 Nope: Government contract > $8,000 >>>> around $9,000 >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Nope: Government contract > $8,000 Wow excellent, Now can you explain in laymans terms why the mitsubishi (I assume it was the LX) is a whole $1000 cheaper than the Commodore (Exec, again I assume). I'm sure you have a full working knowledge of tax structures and liabilities here as well as details of any maintenance plans coincidental with the various contract. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>> around $9,000 >>>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > was the LX) is a whole $1000 cheaper than the Commodore (Exec, again I > assume). Because it is a piece of sh.t and no one wants it. BTW What is the discount on a Fairlane? >>>>>> around $9,000 >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Because it is a piece of sh.t and no one wants it. You could have just admitted that you have no clue. >BTW What is the discount on a Fairlane? Not a discount, a contract price and I don't think the Fairlane is contracted..nobody wants one. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>>>> around $9,000 >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Not a discount, a contract price and I don't think the Fairlane is > contracted..nobody wants one. You showed your ignorance. Big Dick Wrote: > You showed your ignorance. Ahhh yes, I see the Fairlane Ghia is on the list for executives....I wonder how many get purchased compared to the Statesman. SignatureSnoozin > Big Dick Wrote: >> >> You showed your ignorance. > > Ahhh yes, I see the Fairlane Ghia is on the list for executives....I > wonder how many get purchased compared to the Statesman. So what is the discount on the Fairlane Ghia and the Stateman? > Ahhh yes, I see the Fairlane Ghia is on the list for executives....I > wonder how many get purchased compared to the Statesman. In round figures? Very little :) The Fairy (and LTD) is apparently about to get the chop because of appalling sales figures. -- Regards, Noddy. > >>>>>> around $9,000 > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Why dont u c.nts get a f.cking mobile? >>>>>> around $9,000 >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Because it is a piece of sh.t and no one wants it. That applies to the whole Mitseeshit range. You'd have to be half brain dead to buy that crap in the first place!!! SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth >>>>>>>around $9,000 >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > That applies to the whole Mitseeshit range. > You'd have to be half brain dead to buy that crap in the first place!!! As to you buying a Subaru Sherpa and Daimler limousine that you can't get rid of > That applies to the whole Mitseeshit range. > You'd have to be half brain dead to buy that crap in the first place!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Low resale value could be a good thing if the car is not a total lemon. I'd buy it on the three-year-old mark. The value would be less than 50% of original purchase. But a three-year-old car with reasonable km's should still be reliable. -- YouGottaMakeTheNumbersWorkToYourFavour >>> What about Commodores? >> $6,000 > Nope: Government contract > $8,000 BTW this is partly a result of private buyers coming back to the dealer and saying "Ooohhh the dash rattles, pull it all apart! It's no good! Ohh it doesn't handle right that's no good for a $30,000 car fix it! Ooohh I've changed my mind I'm going to reneg on the deal, too bad you've paid for the car off the manufacturer, not my problem!" This sort of crap, as well as the expense of glitzy showrooms and sleazy salesmen which private buyers demand is one reason why they pay $1000s extra. Govt./fleet buyers don't demand this stuff, they just want the car and that's all they pay for. >>>> What about Commodores? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > $1000s extra. Govt./fleet buyers don't demand this stuff, they just > want the car and that's all they pay for. And the warranty is still honoured IMHE >>>>> What about Commodores? >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >And the warranty is still honoured IMHE Of course warranty is honoured. Did you not understand what was written? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>>> What about Commodores? >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Of course warranty is honoured. > Did you not understand what was written? The implication was that fleet car users are not fussy about rattling dashes. > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>>>> What about Commodores? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >The implication was that fleet car users are not fussy about rattling >dashes. Oh My! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > The implication was that fleet car users are not fussy about rattling > dashes. No the implication was that fleet customers won't take it back 50 times because they can still hear the rattling in their heads. >> The implication was that fleet car users are not fussy about rattling >> dashes. > > No the implication was that fleet customers won't take it back 50 times > because they can still hear the rattling in their heads. Must be a real problem for 380 owners then. > around $9,000 I thought they paid 9 grand to people who bought one! SignatureNewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth >> around $9,000 > >I thought they paid 9 grand to people who bought one! No, you're confusing them with Holden who had to refund around that to buyers of the Adventra. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>> around $9,000 >> >>I thought they paid 9 grand to people who bought one! > > No, you're confusing them with Holden who had to refund around that to > buyers of the Adventra. And they do not offer such a good discount on the Adventra. >>>> around $9,000 >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >And they do not offer such a good discount on the Adventra. Hell, they've already dropped the price by $5000, how much more do you want? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>around $9,000 >> >>I thought they paid 9 grand to people who bought one! > > No, you're confusing them with Holden who had to refund around that to > buyers of the Adventra. What all 6 of them? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>>>around $9,000 >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What all 6 of them? One less than the 380 |
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