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Sir Lex - 30 May 2006 01:30 GMT
I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.

She decided to take our relationship to the next stage by rolling and
writing off my car on the first day of the trip.

Fortunately we were both quite unscathed for a ~90km/h crash, with only
a few bruises and bumps.  We managed to avoid any hard objects, missing
a tree by about a foot.  This occurred on route B57 in SA, about 20km or
so north of Bordertown.

It had been raining a fair bit, but was clearing up, the road was still
quite wet when a wombat meandered out in front of us.  This was the
first time my girlfriend had ever had to avoid an animal, and
unfortunately it happened while she was driving an unfamiliar car, on a
wet road.  Unfortunately her gut reaction was to swerve, at which point
she lost control of the car, ended up going sideways and into sand on
the side of the road.  The car had *almost* stopped when it hit a
largish bush and rolled.  If it hadn't been raining, I reckon we
would've been fine.

We got out fairly quickly by reclining the front passenger seat all the
way back and winding down the back window.  We were waiting on the side
of this fairly desolate road for all of 2 minutes before another car
arrived and stopped to help us.  They took us to Bordertown hospital
where we were kept overnight for observation but released the next day.

http://i4.tinypic.com/112536q.jpg

The car did fairly well.  That picture shows pretty much all the damage,
except for a dent in the roof on the passenger side where the car
landed.  No glass was broken, and the motor was still running when we
had stopped.

The car was towed to Keith, about half an hour from Bordertown.  The
people who picked us up drove us to Keith so we could get our stuff out
of the car, which was really good of them.  The car was then towed to
Naracoote, where it was inspected and written off.  We hired a car and
drove home.

So it wasn't really the best holiday, but on the bright side, if that's
the worst car accident the missus or I ever get ourselves into, I'll
consider us quite lucky.

Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.

SL.
David Springthorpe - 30 May 2006 01:38 GMT
>I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
>see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.

>It had been raining a fair bit, but was clearing up, the road was still
>quite wet when a wombat meandered out in front of us.  This was the
>first time my girlfriend.....

Make up your mind - was it your missus or your girlfriend ?
Sir Lex - 30 May 2006 07:04 GMT
>>I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
>>see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.
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>
> Make up your mind - was it your missus or your girlfriend ?

Lol.  She's a long term girlfriend, effectively making her a missus :-)
Diesel Damo - 30 May 2006 02:01 GMT
> Unfortunately her gut reaction was to swerve

:-(
My missus hit a wombat on Sunday night, but thankfully I've been able
to convince her not to swerve, or at the very least, make sure you have
no lateral Gs at the point of impact.

> at which point she lost control of the car, ended up going
> sideways and into sand on the side of the road.  The car had
> *almost* stopped when it hit a largish bush and rolled.

Glad to hear the roll came at slower speed than 90, and that you're all
okay.

> If it hadn't been raining, I reckon we would've been fine.

Likely.

> We got out fairly quickly by reclining the front passenger seat
> all the way back and winding down the back window.

Just curious, was it power windows?

> We were waiting on the side of this fairly desolate road for all of
> 2 minutes before another car arrived and stopped to help us.

Excellent. So your missus didn't go into any kind of shock then?

> http://i4.tinypic.com/112536q.jpg
>
> The car did fairly well.

I thought so too.

> The car was then towed to Naracoote, where it was inspected
> and written off.

Does that work out better for you or would you have preferred to have
it repaired?
Sir Lex - 30 May 2006 07:25 GMT
>>Unfortunately her gut reaction was to swerve
>
> :-(
> My missus hit a wombat on Sunday night, but thankfully I've been able
> to convince her not to swerve, or at the very least, make sure you have
> no lateral Gs at the point of impact.

I had told her about not swerving for animals many times, but
unfortunately this was the first chance she had to put these lessons
into practice, she failed miserably.

>>at which point she lost control of the car, ended up going
>>sideways and into sand on the side of the road.  The car had
>>*almost* stopped when it hit a largish bush and rolled.
>
> Glad to hear the roll came at slower speed than 90, and that you're all
> okay.

Cheers :-)

>>If it hadn't been raining, I reckon we would've been fine.
>
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>
> Just curious, was it power windows?

Yep front power windows.  There was a strong smell of petrol pretty much
straight away, so I didn't want to operate any electrics just in case it
ignited something.

>>We were waiting on the side of this fairly desolate road for all of
>>2 minutes before another car arrived and stopped to help us.
>
> Excellent. So your missus didn't go into any kind of shock then?

Don't think so.  She was naturally upset that she'd wrecked my car, but
other than that she seemed quite alright.

>>http://i4.tinypic.com/112536q.jpg
>>
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> Does that work out better for you or would you have preferred to have
> it repaired?

All up having it written off worked out better.  Given that it landed on
it's roof I don't think the car would've ever been the same again.  I
got nearly 8 grand from the insurance, which is a fair bit for an EF.  I
must say that I was dreading claiming from NRMA after hearing many
horror storys, but I had the money within 4 weeks.  With that money I'll
be able to replace the car with an EF/EL of similar spec, convert that
to gas and still have a bit of change left over to send someone on a
defensive driving course :-)
atec77 - 30 May 2006 07:38 GMT
>>> Unfortunately her gut reaction was to swerve

 Sad that she killed you car , but your ok and still about to inflict a
suitable punishment , now remember spank her until she squeals :)
 Whats the replacement going to be ?
David Springthorpe - 30 May 2006 07:56 GMT
On Tue, 30 May 2006 16:38:55 +1000, atec77 <atec77##@hotmail.com>

>  Sad that she killed you car , but your ok and still about to inflict a
>suitable punishment , now remember spank her until she squeals :)
>  Whats the replacement going to be ?

A newer model missus/girlfriend ?
Kev - 31 May 2006 14:59 GMT
> All up having it written off worked out better.  Given that it landed on
> it's roof I don't think the car would've ever been the same again.  I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to gas and still have a bit of change left over to send someone on a
> defensive driving course :-)

I saw a 96 EF Olimpic Classic in Redcliffe(QLD) Monday night for sale
$2450
was the beige metalic colour
so I'd say they $8000 was a great outcome

Just unfortunate that it was you and your partner in it at the time
no money makes up for that

glad your ok

Kev
eeviil inc. - 31 May 2006 17:11 GMT
>> All up having it written off worked out better.  Given that it landed
>> on it's roof I don't think the car would've ever been the same again.  
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>
> Kev

One of my bosses mates bought an EF or EL wagon, apparently in very good
nick, plenty of rego and a second set of mags for 2k a few months ago. I
was also surprised the other day when I saw an AU Ghia V8 for just under
$8k. So I'd be pretty happy about getting $8k back too.

Adam
Ron - 30 May 2006 02:35 GMT
> I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
> see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.
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>
> SL.

I know the place well.
Born in Bordertown and lived 21 mile out from Keith on the Naracoorte.
Small world, glad you were both okay.

Ron
David Springthorpe - 30 May 2006 02:53 GMT
>It had been raining a fair bit, but was clearing up, the road was still
>quite wet when a wombat meandered out in front of us.

I was coming home from a bushwalk back of Oberon several years ago in
a group when the leading car (an old Subaru) collected a wandering
wombat and killed it. Examination showed it was a female with a
still-live joey (?) in the pouch, so we loaded the whole lot in the
back of someone's car and took it to a vet in Oberon who extracted the
youngun' and arranged for those people who look after orphaned native
animals to look after it. A collection was taken up and forwarded to
them to help it along. The mum was ceremoniously dumped over an
embankment on the road back to the Jenolan road.
Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> - 30 May 2006 03:20 GMT
> So it wasn't really the best holiday, but on the bright side, if that's
> the worst car accident the missus or I ever get ourselves into, I'll
> consider us quite lucky.

hmmm, appears to have lost front tire pressure at some point. I'm really not
into tubeless, run tubes, however have a phobia about losing a front tube.

Can't really win on that.

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Tonymy01 - 30 May 2006 03:26 GMT
> I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was
> to see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make
> it.

Judging by that photo, I reckon you should have just got it pushed back onto
the wheels change the flat, and take your trip on the great ocean road ;-)
You did remarkably well to come out of that with only that much damage (to
both car and yourselves).
Lucky!

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D Walford - 30 May 2006 05:40 GMT
> I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
> see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.

Bugger, glad both of you are ok.
I hope she has learnt that swerving hard to avoid something at that
speed is a very bad idea.

Daryl
ant - 30 May 2006 13:05 GMT
>> I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan
>> was to see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite
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> I hope she has learnt that swerving hard to avoid something at that
> speed is a very bad idea.

I usually avoid animals, but whack on the brake hard before trying to go
round them. So far so good

except for that stupid roo.... it was converging with me, I was desperately
on the brakes, on the gears, trying to point out of the way.... by the time
I hit him I was doing walking pace just about. He disappeared under the
front, I had the horrors, then he thrashed and heaved his way back out
again, glared at me, and flogged off. Bull bar wasn't even scratched.

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George W. Frost - 30 May 2006 06:25 GMT
> I>
> http://i4.tinypic.com/112536q.jpg
>
> Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.
>
> SL.

How much do you want for the car??
Sir Lex - 31 May 2006 04:22 GMT
>>I>
>>http://i4.tinypic.com/112536q.jpg
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>
> How much do you want for the car??

The letter I got from the insurance company was along the lines of "The
car is now the property of NRMA insurance".  You'll have to speak to
them :-)
^Temuchin^ - 30 May 2006 07:29 GMT
> I went on a road trip with the missus a few weeks back.  The plan was to
> see great ocean road over a few days... but we didn't quite make it.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> unfortunately it happened while she was driving an unfamiliar car, on a
> wet road.  Unfortunately her gut reaction was to swerve,

Pretty normal gut reaction. When i was training to be a coach driver
years ago we were taught if any type of animal gets in front of you, hit
it. The minute you swerve you are out of control, the passengers may not
like it but at the end of the day 1 dead animal is better then 53 tourists.

Only animal I ever hit was a 6ft roo on a dirt track at dusk, I have
just told the international tourist to look out for roo as they come out
at that time of night.   I hit it in the middle of the drivers
windscreen while in full hop. Did did about 4 spins into the bush. I
didn't get spoken to for 2 days.
OzOne - 30 May 2006 08:02 GMT
One very dark night in the wee small hours of the morning a few years
back, I was travelling well ver the speed limit on a deserted stretch
of the Ouyen Hwy when I came across a truck wheel slap bang in the
middle of the road.
Fortunately I was NOT driving a Falcodore but a very well set up
nimble Itallian sports sedan.
I was easily able to swerve around the wheel. stop, reverse up and
remove it from the roadway.

Hitting the wheel was not an option as the resulting accident would
have been horrendous.

I learned a lesson that day and have adopted a strategy of making sure
the suspension on cars is capable of such direction changes without
loss of control.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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Marco - 30 May 2006 22:56 GMT
"I learned a lesson that day and have adopted a strategy of making sure
the suspension on cars is capable of such direction changes without
loss of control."

And yet, people continue to buy mediocre-handling cars and fit them
with the cheapest tyres they can buy...I really don't understand people
who cut corners with their own safety.
atec77 - 31 May 2006 02:48 GMT
> "I learned a lesson that day and have adopted a strategy of making sure
> the suspension on cars is capable of such direction changes without
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> with the cheapest tyres they can buy...I really don't understand people
> who cut corners with their own safety.

One of the biggest crimes is the "family" car getting cheap tyres.. mine
has good ones as we carry grand kids now and then .. no kids no future
D Walford - 31 May 2006 05:18 GMT
>> "I learned a lesson that day and have adopted a strategy of making sure
>> the suspension on cars is capable of such direction changes without
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> One of the biggest crimes is the "family" car getting cheap tyres.. mine
> has good ones as we carry grand kids now and then .. no kids no future

Agreed, fitting good tyres to the EF we had transformed the car, the OE
Dunlop Monzas were bloody aweful.

Daryl
XR8 Sprint - 31 May 2006 08:35 GMT
>>> "I learned a lesson that day and have adopted a strategy of making sure
>>> the suspension on cars is capable of such direction changes without
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Daryl
Whats even more amazing is the idiots that go out and put great rubber
on a car but don't replace the shocks which have done 100000km plus and
wonder why the handling is still lousy, then blame the tyres. The sprint
is on it's fourth set of shockies in 240000km with a new set of Kyb's
replacing the lousy monroes which had only done about 25000k's before
being stuffed. Had some Tokicos on it at one stage, but they were a bit
harsh for round town. The Kyb's seem like they are a nice balance
between performance and a reasonable ride. (only done a couple of
hundred k's on them so far.)

Xr8_Sprint
Ben Thomas - 31 May 2006 22:25 GMT
>And yet, people continue to buy mediocre-handling cars and fit them
>with the cheapest tyres they can buy...I really don't understand people
>who cut corners with their own safety.
>
>  

Like the people who buy small cars knowing the road is full of trucks
and much bigger cars that could wipe them out if t-boned - something
that does happen. Or the people who ride motorcycles, or even regular
cyclists.  People are wierd.

Poor driver education is to blame. And so is our societies every
increasing greed.

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Toby Ponsenby - 30 May 2006 09:37 GMT
> Fortunately we were both quite unscathed for a ~90km/h crash, with only
> a few bruises and bumps.  We managed to avoid any hard objects, missing
> a tree by about a foot.  This occurred on route B57 in SA, about 20km or
> so north of Bordertown.

Aggghhh!!!

You've just (I hope) unwittingly aided and abetted the AR's determined
to get a 90Km/Hr DEFAULT open road stupid arbitrary limit.

But thanks for the piece anyway, and I'm very glad you avoided the
injuries that while serious and usually f.ck you over for life, don't
make the headlines.
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Sir Lex - 31 May 2006 04:15 GMT
>>Fortunately we were both quite unscathed for a ~90km/h crash, with only
>>a few bruises and bumps.  We managed to avoid any hard objects, missing
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You've just (I hope) unwittingly aided and abetted the AR's determined
> to get a 90Km/Hr DEFAULT open road stupid arbitrary limit.

Did I say 90?  I meant 190... :-)

> But thanks for the piece anyway, and I'm very glad you avoided the
> injuries that while serious and usually f.ck you over for life, don't
> make the headlines.

Cheers :-)  I'm just glad I the accident didn't happen in my old TP
magna.  We mightn't have been so lucky in that.
ant - 30 May 2006 12:59 GMT
> Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.

You should have pursued it and beaten it to death with a wheel brace!
Wombats are crap. Most bush junk, if you blast it with the horn, gets off
the road. Not wombats, no, they stand up and put their fists up.

Actually, many Canberra drivers might be related to wombats.

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Rainbow Warrior - 30 May 2006 14:24 GMT
>> Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.
>
> You should have pursued it and beaten it to death with a wheel brace!
> Wombats are crap. Most bush junk, if you blast it with the horn, gets off
> the road. Not wombats, no, they stand up and put their fists up.

Problem is althought they might come off second best you are pretty lucky if
your average sedan is still mobile after hitting one square on, worse than
roo's IMO. Muscle mass density on them watermelon sized critters is like
hitting a cannonball.
ant - 30 May 2006 14:45 GMT
>>> Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> on, worse than roo's IMO. Muscle mass density on them watermelon
> sized critters is like hitting a cannonball.

I got one in the Charade outside Tamworth many years ago. Just saw the shape
briefly in the glare of all the other traffic. Charade got it at about 100
or so, on the car's corner, and it was fine. The car, not the wombat. The
wombat was completely buggered.

They are pretty solid though, and they won't get off the damn road!

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David Springthorpe - 30 May 2006 14:58 GMT
>They are pretty solid though, and they won't get off the damn road!

And if they're not got the mange and are blind, they've all got sh.t
for brains.....
Bob Saccamano - 31 May 2006 05:19 GMT
> Problem is althought they might come off second best you are pretty lucky
> if your average sedan is still mobile after hitting one square on, worse
> than roo's IMO. Muscle mass density on them watermelon sized critters is
> like hitting a cannonball.

They don't call them bleeding rocks for nothing.
Fraser Johnston - 31 May 2006 05:38 GMT
>>> Before anyone asks, I'm pretty sure the wombat was Ok.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> than roo's IMO. Muscle mass density on them watermelon sized critters is
> like hitting a cannonball.

In country Victoria we used to call them bleeding rocks.  Because it was
like hitting a rock in your car that would bleed a little bit and waddle off
while you waited for a tow truck.

Fraser
Marco - 30 May 2006 23:17 GMT
Do wombats turn to water when they drive in Sydney too?
David Springthorpe - 31 May 2006 03:54 GMT
>Do wombats turn to water when they drive in Sydney too?

Dunno about that, but they root shoot and leave.....
Spear and Magic Helmet - 31 May 2006 03:59 GMT
> Dunno about that, but they root shoot and leave.....

Do you mean "eats roots and leaves"?
David Springthorpe - 31 May 2006 04:10 GMT
>> Dunno about that, but they root shoot and leave.....
>
>Do you mean "eats roots and leaves"?

Even more correctly : "eats, roots, shoots and leaves....."
John Henderson - 31 May 2006 09:17 GMT
> Even more correctly : "eats, roots, shoots and leaves....."

Reminds me of the "Nut screws washer and bolts" cartoon I once
saw drawn in a bushwalking hut log book.

John
 
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