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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / July 2006Bullbars ARE useful
Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after putting the bullbar on for exactly this reason (roos infest that road like a plague). It jumped straight onto the road from the bush that comes down to the road, all I could do was steer away from it, so it hit the left corner, and it was veering away also. I felt the wheel hump over something.... its foot? Made a terrible noise and my chihuahua cartwheeled off the passenger seat (luckily I'd been to the Spotlight sale so the footwell was piled up with pillows and things), pulled over and got out. Well, the roo had flogged off, either to die somewhere else, or just slightly injured, and the (coke-can-esque) car had no damage whatsoever. It's an iron bullbar, and it wasn't even dented. Roo was mid to largish in size too.  Signatureant > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Roo was mid to largish in size too. Thank you for that, I can justify having my bullbar now:-) Daryl >> Roo was mid to largish in size too. > Thank you for that, I can justify having my bullbar now:-) Have not taken out a 'roo with me bullbar yet, however I think I can claim I am the only person here to kill a smallish 'roo with rear step tow bar. The hoops stick out a bit further than the body and give a nasty slap to the head of a 'roo. Disclaimer: No 'luxen or rear step bars were damaged/dented or otherwise inconvenienced during this event. Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the US they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. They also have bars on the rear windows and hard plastic rear seats, which I don't believe ours have either. > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Roo was mid to largish in size too. >Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the US >they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. 'cos OUR cop cars are tougher than theirs. > They also have >bars on the rear windows and hard plastic rear seats, which I don't believe >ours have either. 'cos we're soft on crims. >> Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? >> In the US they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > 'cos we're soft on crims. Their cops might have them, but nobody else does. They haven't even heard of them! Seriously. Signatureant Nope, I have a feeling that the US cop cars are far more durable than ours. For example, in the US, its not uncommon to still see 10-year-old police cars in use, or possibly even older ones in smaller/rural communities. The fact that they last that long under such strain is quite amazing. I would like to see how a 10-year-old Falcon police car holds up! (this also applies to US taxis as well - they are generally older on average than the Australian equivalents - although I do realize this has to do with the law in Victoria about a taxi being under a certain age). >>Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the >>US [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > 'cos we're soft on crims. > Nope, I have a feeling that the US cop cars are far more durable than ours. > > For example, in the US, its not uncommon to still see 10-year-old police > cars in use, or possibly even older ones in smaller/rural communities. The > fact that they last that long under such strain is quite amazing. I would > like to see how a 10-year-old Falcon police car holds up! Seem to hold up just fine if you look about, those Ex chasers in the hands of hoons still seem to be coping well Kev > (this also applies to US taxis as well - they are generally older on average > than the Australian equivalents - although I do realize this has to do with > the law in Victoria about a taxi being under a certain age). in 1990 I was in Sydney got off the train and was greeted with old Taxis the oldest was a silver HQ premier, there were lots of VB - VLs and only one VN/VP plus a couple of XD-XF fords coming from Brisbane where the oldest cab is usually only 4-5 years old it was as if the train was a time warp machine Kev >> Nope, I have a feeling that the US cop cars are far more durable than >> ours. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Seem to hold up just fine if you look about, those Ex chasers in the hands > of hoons still seem to be coping well LOL - because those cars weren't used for 10 YEARS as police cars! They were probably only used for a couple of years before being sold off. The US cars I'm referring to have been in constant use as police cars for 10+ years! I like the Kiwi ones with the rubber on the front, simply push the garbage off the road! > Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the > US they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. They also [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> Roo was mid to largish in size too. RTA has them on the SHB - they are cool. Jock >I like the Kiwi ones with the rubber on the front, simply push the garbage >off the road! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> >>> Roo was mid to largish in size too. > Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the US > they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. They also have > bars on the rear windows and hard plastic rear seats, which I don't believe > ours have either. Might have something to do with the fact that in some parts of the US ramming by Police cars is still practiced here the Police are not allowed to use their vehicle in such a way, hence no need for nudge bars Kev >> Speaking of bullbars, why don't Australian police cars have them? In the >> US they do and their cop cars look much 'tougher' than ours. They also [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > here the Police are not allowed to use their vehicle in such a way, hence > no need for nudge bars I think they might be for the police to be able to push a car off to the side of the road if necessary. The cop cars in NZ have these bars at the front for this purpose as well (I saw it on Motorway Patrol once). > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after > putting the bullbar on for exactly this reason (roos infest that road like > a plague). 12 years of endangering pedestrians and other road users to save a small ding from 1 roo. Michael >> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast >> because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Michael Mines more for protection from boulders & tree's offroad really, I've already bent an alloy one beyond repair :P >>> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast >>> because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Mines more for protection from boulders & tree's offroad really, I've > already bent an alloy one beyond repair :P Since I added the three shooroo the problems stopped. >>>> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very >>>> fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Since I added the three shooroo the problems stopped. Hmmm, a Shu-rock or Shu-Tree for offroading, interesting concept. >>>> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very >>>> fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > Since I added the three shooroo the problems stopped. how does one know if the shu-roo works if ya don't hit any it must be working if ya do then it doesn't Kev >>>>> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very >>>>> fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Kev I used to have a lot of close misses and the odd hit , nothing even remotely close or hit since the install. > how does one know if the shu-roo works > if ya don't hit any it must be working > if ya do > then it doesn't A friend installed a shoo roo some years back, and a roo launched off a culvert and landed on his car! He was very indignant, and wondered if he'd installed it wrong and made it into a roo-attracter. Signatureant may have wired it back to front mate. Jock >> how does one know if the shu-roo works >> if ya don't hit any it must be working [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > culvert and landed on his car! He was very indignant, and wondered if he'd > installed it wrong and made it into a roo-attracter. > 12 years of endangering pedestrians and other road users to save a small > ding from 1 roo. Blow it out your arse Michael. If people wish to walk or drive into the path of my Jeep when they shouldn't, they'll get a 1/4 inch thick metal bullbar right in the head. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very >> fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 12 years of endangering pedestrians and other road users to save a > small ding from 1 roo. My car is made from lightweight metal. You can bend it with one finger. A hit on a roo would result in many new panels, and an engine re-build. My car is a Suzuki Swift on a 4WD chassis, with a heavier transmission. You think hanging a bullbar on it suddenly elevates its killing ability? Pedestrians are dead if they are hit by a car, bullbar or not. And, pedestrians are not road users, they are technically intruding on the road. I'd almost forgotten what an utter moron you are. Signatureant > > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 12 years of endangering pedestrians and other road users to save a small > ding from 1 roo. f.ck pedestrians. They are a dime a dozen around here. <g d r> naughty troll. Jock > 12 years of endangering pedestrians and other road users to save a small > ding from 1 roo. > > Michael > naughty troll. > Jock Damn I forgot what knuckle draggers aus.cars is inhabited with. Michael >> naughty troll. >> Jock > Damn I forgot what knuckle draggers aus.cars is inhabited with. Hey!, whatever works for whoever. Don't be a "knob" :-p Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- go fsck your socks michael, there's a cnut in them. Jock >> naughty troll. >> Jock > > Damn I forgot what knuckle draggers aus.cars is inhabited with. > > Michael > go fsck your socks michael, there's a cnut in them. hehe, do you have to keep proving me right? Michael >> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast >> because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Michael But he did'nt say that he had hit a pedestrian in ALL that time, only the Roo. Just shows their worth WHEN needed !! > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after > putting the bullbar on for exactly this reason Yeah I had a similar experience a couple of years back. Everyone told me it was a waste of money but when that drunk walked out in front of my car there wasn't any damage to the car, a bit of skin and stuff in the bar but that cleaned off ;) >>Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast >>because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > my car there wasn't any damage to the car, a bit of skin and stuff in > the bar but that cleaned off ;) Well worth it then, drunks are expendable. Daryl >>>Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast >>>because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >Well worth it then, drunks are expendable. There certainly seems to be a never-ending supply. >> Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very >> fast because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > my car there wasn't any damage to the car, a bit of skin and stuff in > the bar but that cleaned off ;) So this is why Michael C is so bitter about bullbars... Signatureant > So this is why Michael C is so bitter about bullbars... He is Harold Scruby's love child. > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Roo was mid to largish in size too. I had two run into the side of the Courier on Sunday morn between Mundubbera and Eldsvold (4amish). Cleaned the dirt off the door and side bin, heaps of them took off before I got to them. The "shoo-roo" might be working. Don't want to know if it's an omen for my Broome trip I'm just starting. Do you's want a review on the Ford? ;-) SignatureT.C.Feral > I had two run into the side of the Courier on Sunday morn between > Mundubbera and Eldsvold (4amish). Cleaned the dirt off the door and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do you's want a review on the Ford? ;-) yes please. I've been intrigued by those ads for couriers for $14k or therabouts, trouble is they're 2 wheel drive. Signatureant > yes please. I've been intrigued by those ads for couriers for $14k or > therabouts, trouble is they're 2 wheel drive. Fine by me for what I'm starting on Wednesday. Mine is an old July '96 model though. It's raised a little for clearance, neoprene bushes fitted to spring mountings, modified for front/rear attack, has 15" wheels, 235x70 tyres, bullbar and fully kitted as a home with everything working off 12v (lights, toothbrush, shaver, computers, TV, mp3, air compressor, fridge, soldering iron) and it has a double-skin fly for the hot/wet weather, *but* will not be used for excessive O/R slogging, just a little of the Gibb River Road-Tunnel Creek-Leopard Downs Road. I ran up to Townsville to shake it up a little, via the inland route to Rockhampton and can report nothing negative. Good start...fingers crossed. Can't wait actually. It's not Athol's bus, but it will be cheaper to run, barring anything drastic of course. SignatureT.C.Feral > I had two run into the side of the Courier on Sunday morn between > Mundubbera and Eldsvold (4amish). Cleaned the dirt off the door and side [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do you's want a review on the Ford? ;-) I'd like to hear about whether or not you hit a roo going too and from Broome, though. -- Damo, who is considering getting a shoo-roo. > Do you's want a review on the Ford? ;-) No :-p Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- >> Do you's want a review on the Ford? ;-) > > No :-p Killfile me then. :-P SignatureT.C.Feral >> No :-p > Killfile me then. :-P Oh, OK yep, tell us then. Would not wanna harm feral frogs :-) Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- >>> No :-p > >> Killfile me then. :-P > > Oh, OK yep, tell us then. Would not wanna harm feral frogs :-) What makes you think he ain't a toad ? >> In article >> <449616b6$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > What makes you think he ain't a toad ? Because I only lived in QLD for 20 years. :-P SignatureT.C.Feral >>> In article >>> <449616b6$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Because I only lived in QLD for 20 years. :-P There are plenty of toads south of the cockroach border. ( you da proof) >>>> In article >>>> <449616b6$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There are plenty of toads south of the cockroach border. > ( you da proof) There are a thousand times more cockroaches north of it though. SignatureT.C.Feral >>>>> In article >>>>> <449616b6$0$491$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > There are a thousand times more cockroaches north of it though. is that all you got bitcj :P > is that all you got bitcj :P yes, clone. :-P T.C.Feral >> is that all you got bitcj :P > > yes, clone. :-P > > T.C.Feral shame about you leaving the worst for laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast . >>>> No :-p >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > What makes you think he ain't a toad ? Cane toad, the things that sit around garden lights at night worshiping them? Was that <flick> or <boot!!! - shite! that landed over the fence!> :-) Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- > Hit a roo at highway speed last night (although I wasn't going very fast > because I worry about roos) on the Captain's Flat road, 12 years after [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Roo was mid to largish in size too. Just had my car in a panelbeaters (d-i-l being taught to drive hit tree), talked to panel beater about bullbars. He says 75% of his work is roo damage, bullbar is worthwhile on four wheel drives and utes/trucks, but the ones put on cars do not help much. JD >Just had my car in a panelbeaters (d-i-l being taught to drive hit tree), >talked to panel beater about bullbars. He says 75% of his work is roo >damage, bullbar is worthwhile on four wheel drives and utes/trucks, but the >ones put on cars do not help much. >JD Had a steel bar on my 70 Fiat 125 - hit two roos, bent the outer wing back but narya scratch on the Fart. Next car a '75 180B, steel bar - scored two with that, no car damage. SW(now)MBO hit one dead centre on the stee roobar on the Kombi camper at ~90k not far from Broken Hill. No vehicle damage. So far I'm in front. Missed a bull coming out of the verge canegrass near Kununurra one night. The sod's saliva was all down the side windows as I frantically avoided impact. Now in THAT instance the bar wouldn't have helped in an impact. Saw a Falcodore ute with a bullbar that had run into a bull. Top of the bonnet was restyled, and the cab above bonnet line was simply sheared off. Bullbars are fine on semis and other vehicles with the strength/weight to back them up. Roobars on cars/utes can be very useful, but low roobars to match the lower bonnet line render them fairly useless against roos or anything taller than a cat. > Missed a bull coming out of the verge canegrass near Kununurra one night. The > sod's saliva was all down the side windows as I frantically avoided impact. Now > in THAT instance the bar wouldn't have helped in an impact. > > Saw a Falcodore ute with a bullbar that had run into a bull. Top of the bonnet > was restyled, and the cab above bonnet line was simply sheared off. I've seen a Mack Superliner that hit a herd of cattle out Emerald way, there was cowshit covering the whole cab and sleeper up and over the roof, even the front of the trailer got some the bullbar was pushed back about 6 inches at the top and that was it Mack-6, cows-0 Kev > I've seen a Mack Superliner that hit a herd of cattle out Emerald way, > there was cowshit covering the whole cab and sleeper up and over the > roof, even the front of the trailer got some > the bullbar was pushed back about 6 inches at the top and that was it > > Mack-6, cows-0 I dunno, I think the cows scored something, they got some revenge. The bullbar might have survived, but I bet that driver was smelling cow pooh for months. Signatureant > Roo was mid to largish in size too. The bull bar on my late EF paid itself off twice. It was an alloy bar, cost me $850 to install, and saved me $1800 in insurance excess as I'm under 25. The first incident was 4 months after I had the bar installed. Came over the crest of a hill at ~70 - 80, and the roo was standing smack bang in the middle of my lane. Braked hard and hit it at maybe 60k's. No damage to the car, my driving lights copped a fair beating, but I was able to put them back together on the side of the road. The bull bar was fine, it needed re-adjusting which took me 5 minutes the next day. The roo took off into the night. Second incident, the roo jumped out in front from out of a driveway. I hit the thing at 70 - 80k's with the front drivers side corner of the car. This one was killed instantly, again with no damage to the car except a spilt coke on the passenger seat. Fortunately the roo had no joey, so I shifted the body to the side of the road and continued on. I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. > I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. AndWhyIsThat? I read some really stupid stuff here, however if a driver can't take responsibility for their own actions (even while pissed or whatever) humankind has lost the battle. Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- > > I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. > > AndWhyIsThat? Please read. Suburban enviroment. > I read some really stupid stuff here, however if a driver > can't take responsibility for their own actions (even while > pissed or whatever) humankind has lost the battle. So that is why you dont need to wear a seat belt eh? Get real. The laws are made to protect the population. I would make a law that says if bull bars are not pedestrian friendly then they cannot be allowed. > Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? > Nope. End of story. >> Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? >> > > Nope. Points finger at side of head. Rotates in UR looney mode. What the ****f.ck**** are you on??!?!? Cars are large and heavy objects, drive them as designed, take responsibility for your own actions. > End of story. Guess so. The looney line up of the usual suspects just got you added. Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- > >> Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > -- Ahh the sounds of silence. We wont need to hear you pontificate on anu of my original postings then. >>>> Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Ahh the sounds of silence. We wont need to hear you pontificate on anu > of my original postings then. Anu ? is that Christine ? > >>>> Now, do you wanna withdraw that utterly stupid post? > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Anu ? > is that Christine ? the y is next to u >>>I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I would make a law that says if bull bars are not pedestrian friendly > then they cannot be allowed. I would make a law that says that anyone with a dumb theory must test it themselves. You get to get hit by a Hilux without a bullbar then if you survive we will do the test again with a bullbar. You won't survive the first test which will prove that bullbars are no more dangerous to pedestrians than bumper bars:-) Daryl "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message > I would make a law that says if bull bars are not pedestrian friendly > then they cannot be allowed. Cars & roads are not pedestrian friendly... End of story. -- Regards, Noddy. > "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and elsewhere? > What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and > elsewhere? What about them? -- Regards, Noddy. > > What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and > > elsewhere? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. at night. trucks wizzing by. They are playing with death. > at night. trucks wizzing by. They are playing with death. And thats my job too. :-p SignatureRegards Dan Heaven is Hell. >>> What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and >>> elsewhere? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > at night. trucks wizzing by. They are playing with death. He hopes someone will start focussing on that, and not at what a fuckwit loon he is. Signatureant > >>> What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and > >>> elsewhere? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > He hopes someone will start focussing on that, and not at what a fuckwit > loon he is. Getting under your skin now then? Sorry I am not going to bow down and kiss your ski boots. Did eating all those apples give you a personality disoder too? But anyway in my defense (get over it), on my trip back at night from Sydney, There were two idiots riding bikes around 9pm between Goulburn and the turn-off to Canberra. Safe? I don't think so. >>>> What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and >>>> elsewhere? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > He hopes someone will start focussing on that, and not at what a fuckwit > loon he is. Oh Oh not very ladylike :) > >>>> What about all those fuckwits riding bikes on the Hume Highway and > >>>> elsewhere? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > Oh Oh not very ladylike :) The photo and the behaviour don't match do they? > I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. And are you proposing that all vehicles remove them at the edge of suburbia? Provide storage? The residents of suburbia to pay the costs of this? How about adding that they be required on all vehicles west of the mountains? Makes about as much sense from a practical point of view. If you are proposing to prevent non-urban residents from driving into cities say so, but don't be surprised if we expect the sentiment to be reciprocated. JD > > I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > so, but don't be surprised if we expect the sentiment to be reciprocated. > JD Excellent post. >>> I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban >>> enviroment. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Excellent post. Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. Well put, and it said what most of us were thinking, but it was put better. Signatureant > > I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > so, but don't be surprised if we expect the sentiment to be reciprocated. > JD Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know you will all say they are not dangerous. > Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know > you will all say they are not dangerous. More a question of wrong/inappropriate design. Yep, sharp objects not in line with the rest of the vehicle is a bit silly (excluding tow hitch which has to be done that way). I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about tow hitch - obviously walked past and bumped knee or somesuch on. Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- >I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about >tow hitch - WTF is a tow hitch? Some sorta new sailing knot? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about >>tow hitch - > > WTF is a tow hitch? > Some sorta new sailing knot? The bit that bolts to the rear step bumper of 4x4 and comes down by around 20 cm and back by around 20 cm and has a tow ball (with optional half tennis ball over the top). However you knew that :-) or were you being a goose {neck} :-p Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- >>>I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about >>>tow hitch - [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >half tennis ball over the top). However you knew that :-) or were you being >a goose {neck} :-p Ahhhh, a towbar......for an SUV ;-) Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > > Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know > > you will all say they are not dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about > tow hitch - obviously walked past and bumped knee or somesuch on. did you not plonk me? >> > Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know >> > you will all say they are not dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > did you not plonk me? No, did I miss a post or something? I don't plonk anyone. Signature-------------------------------------------- 4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre, BP 106 Timbuktu, Mali (West Africa) Tel: 292 91 52 Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon Forever young, I want to be forever young Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever Feel the love generation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Feel the love generation, C'mon c'mon c'mon c'mon yeah. -------------------------------------------- > > Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know > > you will all say they are not dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I once had some idiot leave a notice on me vehicle complaining about > tow hitch - obviously walked past and bumped knee or somesuch on. did you not plonk me? >>>I think that bull bars should not be allowed in a suburban enviroment. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yep. Thats why they banned fishing holders on bull bars. Oh I know > you will all say they are not dangerous. Fishing Rod holders are not banned you just have to make sure they do not protrude outside the bar or present a sharp edge that may injure a person(even someone walking past your car) when not in use, but if you are using then to hold rods then it's fine to have them same as most holders for carrying loads, they just have to be removed when not in use Kev |
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