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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / July 2006How good is are the BA Falcons?
I am looking at getting a BA Futura what problems should I look out for? TIA Simon T. have a look on http://www.fordforums.com.au They have plenthy of threads regarding BA Falcon woes. >I am looking at getting a BA Futura what problems should I look out for? > > TIA > > Simon T. > have a look on http://www.fordforums.com.au > > They have plenthy of threads regarding BA Falcon woes. a few out of the many thousands sold is not really a good indicator and some are just the person expecting top $$ quality in a low $$ car I have had a couple of minor things that were fixed under warrenty but as for the running, never had a problem, brakes are still only 1/2 worn at just over 60,000klms and whoever said the headlight bulbs are a special type is wrong normal H4 bulbs for the main lights, the driving/highbeam inner lights are H7, the lenses are like most new cars made of pollycabonite which turns yellow from the heat if you use higher wattage bulbs than standard Kev My Mrs is in fleet management for a gov't dept. They aren't real keen on the Fords as they spend more time @ ford under warranty than on the road. They like their Toyota's and Holdens. The current car on their list that is worth buying is the Toyota Prius of all cars. Low maintainence cars up to 40,000-60,000k's they say. From what I can see on the Ford forums compared to what my Mrs tells me about her work. I'll never buy a BA. If I ever get rid of my EL? I'll be a happy man. On my list of possible good idea's is to put a late model V8 just a EFI 5lt into an XB. I reckon it'll be a far better car than an EL/AU series Falcon. Not sure if I'll ever get that motivated to buy another XB to add to my collection. That polycarbonate turns yellow whether you use the correct bulbs or not. Take a look at an EF or EL. Mine are starting to turn yellow but I don't think it's that bad due to the car being almost 10 years old. The only thing I hate about EL 6's? Head gaskets, radiators, brakes and exhausts. Which leads me to say in my personal experience with an EL that it's a high maintanence car unlike many other decent cars out there. >> have a look on http://www.fordforums.com.au >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Kev > My Mrs is in fleet management for a gov't dept. They aren't real keen on the > Fords as they spend more time @ ford under warranty than on the road. They [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Not sure if I'll ever get that motivated to buy another XB to add to my > collection. Considering that XB/XC was the most problematic of all Falcons from a warranty point of view your choice is quite surprising. The XC came very very close to sending Ford Australia broke, I was working in the Ford Customer Service Office in 1977 and the work load in the warranty claims processing area was very high, it dropped dramatically when XD was released. By comparison the BA's problems are very minor. Daryl I'm not sure what the X series Falcons where ever recalled for?? I'm interested to find out though if you can let me know? Probably squeaky suspension? rofl. I hate the XA/B squeaky suspension. I fitted majority of an XF frontend in one of my XB's. Solved the squeaky frontend till I bought a new XB and got rid of the other. The only thing that really urks me with the late model Falcons is brake shudder. A late model Falcon can't manage 60,000k's without brake issues yet a 30yo Falcon can manage three times the k's without brake issues. Admittedly they dont have have the braking capacity. I give my XB's brakes a hiding on a drag day. The last few drag days I've done no less than 15 pass's all stopping from just above 200kph. My parents have a BA Falcon and a Toyota Camry or Altisse? Some form of 6cyl Toyota. My dad a seasoned mechanic is looking to get rid of the BA to buy another Toyota now. I reckon he's getting old with the FWD :) >> My Mrs is in fleet management for a gov't dept. They aren't real keen on >> the Fords as they spend more time @ ford under warranty than on the road. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Daryl > I'm not sure what the X series Falcons where ever recalled for?? Its been a while, the one I remember most was the secondary bonnet catch fixed by using a round file to put a notch where the 90deg bend is on the catch. I can't think of any other recalls but I do remember about 50% of fuel tank sender units and a huge amount of gauges were replaced some several times, we had a warehouse full of them which were all eventually returned to Flexdrive as claims. Noisy heater fans were another major issue and costly in time to repair or replace, I remember one clever dealer found a way of doing the job in a fraction of the time but still tried to claim the standard repair time, it was a nice earner for him to he was found out. They had many other issues but my memory has faded after almost 30yrs. I'm > interested to find out though if you can let me know? Probably squeaky > suspension? rofl. I hate the XA/B squeaky suspension. I fitted majority of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a hiding on a drag day. The last few drag days I've done no less than 15 > pass's all stopping from just above 200kph. Thats something that Falcodores have suffered from for quite a while, AFAIK its mostly due to quality issues with disc castings, a mate sells foundry materials to both Ford and Holden and he's mentioned their inability to solve that problem several times, AFAIK the problem has a lot to do with their ancient casting plants which are well past their use by dates. > My parents have a BA Falcon and a Toyota Camry or Altisse? Some form of 6cyl > Toyota. My dad a seasoned mechanic is looking to get rid of the BA to buy > another Toyota now. I reckon he's getting old with the FWD :) A very smart man, nothing to do with being old, obviously he knows a quality product when he sees one. Daryl >> I'm not sure what the X series Falcons where ever recalled for?? > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Daryl Toyota make a better car, but my BA hasn't suffered any of the claimed problems, it's at 62000klms now and going great what are these bit warrenty problems, or are they just little things like trim falling off Kev > what are these bit warrenty problems, or are they just little things > like trim falling off I know close to nothing about BA's, I haven't even driven one but I'm certain their warranty issues are very minor compared to those of the XC. Daryl >> what are these bit warrenty problems, or are they just little things >> like trim falling off [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Daryl Don't recall my XC being recalled. I do however remember door handles breaking, brake shudder, diff clunks, gearbox slack and the odd oil leak. The doors kept sagging too and the metal around the door lock/catch in the door itself fatigued and split after a few years. Then there was the rust! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>> what are these bit warrenty problems, or are they just little things >>> like trim falling off [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Don't recall my XC being recalled. I can remember the bonnet secondary catch recall because I helped compile the mailing lists, there were others, I remember we often spent time compiling lists of owners to send out recall notices, I just can't remember what they were about. I remember a TE Cortina recall for cracking sub frames, we were all given a car and a list of dealers to visit and orders to inspect every 6cyl TE Cortina we could find, only a very small number of cars had the fault but every single car had to be inspected. > I do however remember door handles breaking, brake shudder, diff > clunks, gearbox slack and the odd oil leak. > The doors kept sagging too and the metal around the door lock/catch in > the door itself fatigued and split after a few years. > Then there was the rust! I still have nightmares about XC fuel tank sender units, I've inspected thousands of them:-) Daryl > Don't recall my XC being recalled. Silent ones don't get much publicity :) > I do however remember door handles breaking, brake shudder, diff > clunks, gearbox slack and the odd oil leak. Common problems. > The doors kept sagging too and the metal around the door lock/catch in > the door itself fatigued and split after a few years. > Then there was the rust! I never saw door sagging on anything but a coupe. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Don't recall my XC being recalled. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I never saw door sagging on anything but a coupe. Mine was a Ute, I think it had the coupe doors.. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >> I never saw door sagging on anything but a coupe. > > Mine was a Ute, I think it had the coupe doors.. Were they the long ones, with no edges around the window? Ours was like that, too. Creaked something horrible, the windows leaked and whistled of course, and wobbled and rattled if not done up all the way. Weird decision to make them like that.  Signatureant here's a BA going cheap and its LPG still with 12 months warranty for under $18,000 http://www.governmentauctions.com.au/vehicle.aspx?Number=1982049 Signatureamber.2 >here's a BA going cheap and its LPG still with 12 months warranty for >under $18,000 > >http://www.governmentauctions.com.au/vehicle.aspx?Number=1982049 Faaaark, and they recon my Verada will depreciate faster than anything else. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Faaaark, and they recon my Verada will depreciate faster than anything > else. It already has :) -- Regards, Noddy. > here's a BA going cheap and its LPG still with 12 months warranty for > under $18,000 > > http://www.governmentauctions.com.au/vehicle.aspx?Number=1982049 Getting rid of a problem child? SignatureToby. quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Toby Ponsenby Wrote: > > here's a BA going cheap and its LPG still with 12 months warranty > for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > quidquid latine dictum > sit, altum viditur they have plenty there and some are a lot cheaper,all exgovernment vehicles some only have 30,000km http://www.governmentauctions.com.au/auction.aspx?auction=SGP165 Signatureamber.2 > here's a BA going cheap and its LPG still with 12 months warranty for > under $18,000 > > http://www.governmentauctions.com.au/vehicle.aspx?Number=1982049 That's expensive for an ex-government car when dealers in Melbourne are offing them for 18 grand on the road. -- Regards, Noddy. "D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:44ac582d$0$505$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader- > I know close to nothing about BA's, I haven't even driven one but I'm > certain their warranty issues are very minor compared to those of the XC. They've had their major issues. Transmission failure due to heat has been a big one, as have steering rack problems, cracking windscreens, dash plastics, peeling steering wheels, ECU failure, water pumps, brake & tailshaft vibration and differential noise. Most of these are, or *should*, be easily detected and rectified problems that present themselves during initial testing, but they still exist. Makes me wonder why the f.ck they keep their proving grounds open if they're obviously not using them. -- Regards, Noddy. > have a look on http://www.fordforums.com.au No offence but I thought aus.cars talked a load of sh.t. :-) SignatureRegards Dan Heaven is Hell. > have a look on http://www.fordforums.com.au > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Simon T. Thanks Brenden I think I will get a Toyota instead. Simon T. > I am looking at getting a BA Futura what problems should I look out > for? > > TIA > > Simon T. electrics are shocking (no pun intended) Something vibrates loudly at exactly 90ks (but everythings normal acording to ford) Many suffer from brake shudder. They have their own special made ford headlight bulbs that no servo carries and cost 3x more and blow 4x as fast. Thats just a few things off the top of my head, many other niggles im sure. >> I am looking at getting a BA Futura what problems should I look out >> for? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thats just a few things off the top of my head, many other niggles im > sure. If your pretty tall like me you will smack your head more than onetime on the low door entry. Seats seam a little strange to me but they are atleast firm, interior trims kind of look cardboardish imho Holden interiors are much nicer in my view, there are pluses however the suspension setup feels better than any other model Falcon I been in and the car less tail happy (EL was a good model but suffered from this), delay responce when transmission is shifted ie: reverse back to drive you wait for it to engage a tad long seemingly, noisy driveshaft/tailshaft? some of the chimes can be annoying, apart from small nags (every car has em) I think the Falcon probrably offers good value for the money you pay and what your getting. olley. My BA XR6 has 98000 kms without any probs. Has been ultra reliable but then I guess you can get the odd one with niggly problems. Early brake shudder was fixed under warranty so not really an issue. Headlight globes are standard H4 halogen you can pick up at the local grocery shop. I have blown 2 globes in 3 years. 2nd hand are now getting to be good value for the buyer. Not so good for the seller. >> I am looking at getting a BA Futura what problems should I look out >> for? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thats just a few things off the top of my head, many other niggles im > sure. |
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