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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / July 2006Move over Golf GTi & even R32! The HotHatch benchmark arrived...[for now]
mf1@project1221.com中华人民共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדיםPT-141& P2 Member - 05 Jul 2006 04:04 GMT WOW 190kW, Mazspeed etc can fettle that to well over 200kW with ease IS the class leader in std. trim with near XR6 Turbo like performance Does NOT look all stupid and boy racer, almost stealth like in a dark colour http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/1877474.aspx mf1@project1221.com中华人民共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדיםPT-141& P2 Member wrote: > WOW 190kW, Mazspeed etc can fettle that to well over 200kW with ease > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/1877474.aspx If they want to sell them they will need to look more boy racer IMHO. Ben > mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 > Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > If they want to sell them they will need to look more boy racer IMHO. The sedan is quite a nice looking car and will probably steal a lot of WRX sales. The new WRX is f.cking ugly. Fraser >> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Fraser But the 3 MPS is a hatch. Ben >>> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >>> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > But the 3 MPS is a hatch. Look at the photos again. Last pic is of the sedan and the hatch. Fraser >>>> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >>>> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Fraser The mazda website says it's hatch only. Ben >>>> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >>>> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Fraser The sedan in the last photo is a Mazda 6 MPS. >>>>> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >>>>> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > The sedan in the last photo is a Mazda 6 MPS. I stand corrected. Fraser >>> mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 >>> Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > But the 3 MPS is a hatch. I just read the article again. Front wheel drive. Looks like the WRX is safe for a while yet. So near yet so far. Fraser OK. Lets add it up. 190 kilowatts + Front wheel drive + cheap price = lots of dead youngsters, when the Torque steer comes into play on a wet corner. Sounds great value on paper. But will those that can afford it have the skills to drive it.. For the same money, Id say a WRX would be safer and just as fast. > OK. Lets add it up. > > 190 kilowatts + Front wheel drive + cheap price = lots of dead > youngsters, when the Torque steer comes into play on a wet corner. Less would be killed if it was RWD right, when oversteer comes into play? The current FWD cars do not torque steer badly, because they are built not to fall off the road whenever you jump on the gas. > Sounds great value on paper. But will those that can afford it have the > skills to drive it.. > For the same money, Id say a WRX would be safer and just as fast. WRX will be much more exxy to insure though. Ben > WRX will be much more exxy to insure though. To say nothing of the Focus RS when it comes here :-) > OK. Lets add it up. > > 190 kilowatts + Front wheel drive + cheap price = lots of dead > youngsters, when the Torque steer comes into play on a wet corner. Yep, 190kw front wheel drive is crazy. And it looks like a girl car, esp from the back. > Sounds great value on paper. But will those that can afford it have the > skills to drive it.. > > For the same money, Id say a WRX would be safer and just as fast. > OK. Lets add it up. > > 190 kilowatts + Front wheel drive + cheap price = lots of dead > youngsters, when the Torque steer comes into play on a wet corner. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Traction control (TC) will help address steering issues. -- TCisIntegratedToSubeyAWDsystem >> OK. Lets add it up. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > TCisIntegratedToSubeyAWDsystem There is no Traction Control no the Subaru AWD system. Fraser > There is no Traction Control no the Subaru AWD system. ~~~~~~~~~~ There isn't. When I took a Subey Liberty test drive some months ago, the dealer told me that TC is integrated in the AWD system. -- IntegratedIsGood > OK. Lets add it up. > > 190 kilowatts + Front wheel drive + cheap price = lots of dead > youngsters, when the Torque steer comes into play on a wet corner. Maybe not. "Featuring an innovative torque control system which senses steering angle in the first two gears to help eliminate torque steer (the bugbear of high-powered front-wheel drive cars), the 3 easily out-powers the current hot hatch crop". > Sounds great value on paper. But will those that can afford it have the > skills to drive it.. > > For the same money, Id say a WRX would be safer and just as fast. AWD would be a good idea with that power to weigh ratio. Daryl >> OK. Lets add it up. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > AWD would be a good idea with that power to weigh ratio. AWD would reduce the power to weight ratio. Peak torque at 3000 RPMs sounds like it will be a bit laggy too, so a fast launch will require clutch frying dumps. I couldn't possibly be wrong. :) Ben > mf1@project1221.com中华人民共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים > מיוחדיםPT-141& P2 Member wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > If they want to sell them they will need to look more boy racer IMHO. The fact that its got about 40kw more than any of the opposition for the same price or less has to help it sell. Too bad its a POS Mazda:-) Daryl "mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????PT-141& P2 Member" <auscars@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1152068685.931114.320420@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > WOW 190kW, Mazspeed etc can fettle that to well over 200kW with ease > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/1877474.aspx After the mrs having a shitbox SP23 I would rather to have the Golf.  SignatureRegards Dan Heaven is Hell. |
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