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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / March 2008drive.com.au scam?? What do you make of it - I think SCAM
Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited info to see if it was a scam. I told him the vehicle was $7400 now he is saying he will get $13.400 and I have to give him 6000 back. He hasn't asked any questions about the vehicle. Hello S, My clients liked perfectly the picture of your car and wishes to buy it. I am glad to tell you that I have just concluded payment arrangement with my client and i will be making full payment of $7,400 AUD to you. This will confirm the the purchase .The rest will be given to you in cash after inspection on arrival. However, I am going to send you the Credit Card Information tomorrow that will cover the cost of the car ,and the necessary arrangment for the pick up and delivery of the car.Moreover, I was able to make an arrangement with a pick up agent who will be coming over to inspect and pick up the car . So inorder not to share the credit card information with a third party, I have decided that only one person will have to handle the credit card information. So once you are on receipt of it, you are required to charge the credit card,confirm the amount of ($13,400 AUD), in your account then deduct the payment ($ 7,400 AUD ) and kindly send ($6,000 AUD ) via western union money Transfer, to the pick up agent whose information I will forward to you once this is confirmed. Confirm this message and provide me with your (1) YOUR FULL NAME (2) FULL ADDRESS (3) PHONE NUMBERS for office record. Please! remember that the integrity of our agency is involved, so this business requires prompt response. Kind Regards John Woods. S wrote: Hi John The only pictures I have of the car are the ones on the drive website I am after an urgent sale and would take $7400 for the car Steve -----Original Message----- From: John Woods [mailto:woods_avalancheautos@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 2:46 PM To: Subject: Expression of interest from drive.com.au user **************************************************************** Lead Provider: drive.com.au **************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT DETAILS AND PREFERENCES: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Woods Number: 4567890367 Email: woods_avalancheautos@yahoo.co.uk Preferred contact option: via email Preferred contact day: daytime or evening ---------------------------------------------------------------- VEHICLE INFORMATION: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Vehicle: TOYOTA 4 RUNNER RV6 4x4 ---------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Enquiry about your vehicle,get back to me with a firm price and the pix of the vehicle. Regards ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was generated directly by a user of the drive.com.au website. John Fairfax Holdings accepts no responsibility for the content of the message. > My clients liked perfectly the picture of your car and wishes to buy it. > I am glad to tell you that I have just concluded payment arrangement > with my client and i will be making full payment of $7,400 AUD to you. > This will confirm the the purchase .The rest will be given to you in > cash after inspection on arrival. Sounds like that has been through a translater or something. Either that or English is not his/her first language. > Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a > bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > John Fairfax Holdings accepts no responsibility for the content of the > message. It's the old "overseas crook cheques take weeks to bounce and you will suffer a huge loss scam" quite laughable as it does appeal to the most prurient of human nature , a greedy fool might be ripped off. drive.com.au emailed me back withing 15 minutes Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. The [Drive/Domain] team will take immediate steps to investigate your complaint. If, following our preliminary investigation, we believe there may have been fraud committed through the website, we will take immediate steps to remove the offending advertisement. Where we can identify the source of the fraudulent advertisement, we will take all possible steps to ensure that the individual involved is not able to advertise again on the Fairfax Digital network. We recommend you notify your local police of your concerns or call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000. We will fully cooperate with any police request for information about the allegations and the relevant advertisement. It is extremely unfortunate that the internet is used to commit fraud. We use our greatest endeavor to warn customers about this potential risk. However, there is only so much Fairfax Digital is able to do to prevent internet crime from occurring. We sincerely regret the inconvenience that this matter has caused you and would like to assure you that Fairfax Digital is committed to working towards making its network of web sites a safe place to do business. Yours sincerely drive.com.au Great, a form letter suggesting it is the advertisement that is the scam, when it is someone who read the legitimate ad that is the scammer. There is really nothing that drive.com.au could do about it, other than warning advertisers to treat any responders with caution, and to watch out for certain well known scams. Rob. > drive.com.au emailed me back withing 15 minutes > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > drive.com.au > Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a > bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited info > to see if it was a scam. <snip> Scam time :) I haven't seen this one before, but there are hundreds like it out there. When selling or buying *anything* common sense rules should apply. 1: Don't give out *any* personal details to anyone. 2: People offering to pay more than you're asking and want to to refund the difference are looking to get your credit information so they can rip the sh.t out of you well & truly. 3: When selling cars, cash or bank cheque are the safest ways to travel, and if people don't like that road tell 'em to keep walking until they find another pigeon. 4: Never accept terms & conditions from anyone that you wouldn't be willing to be subject to yourself -- Regards, Noddy. >> Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a >> bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited info [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I made up a fatal errors email unknown user and sent it back This one's very easy to dissect. - There is nobody called John Woods. It's a false name. - The credit card information the scammer sends you will be stolen. - After debiting (stealing from) the card, you send $6000 to someone you don't know via Western Union. - Having got your payment, you happily send off the "pick up agent" in your car. - When the card owner finds out about the fraud, his bank charges back the $13,400 from your bank. - You are now down $6000 cash and a $7400 car, are charged with fraud, and have a hell of a legal mess to sort out to clear your name. - You can never get the $6000 back. Transfers through Western Union don't leave a paper trail. Don't EVER accept an arrangement where you pay someone you don't know through Western Union. Not through drive.com.au, not on eBay, not anywhere. > Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a > bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Kind Regards > John Woods. > This one's very easy to dissect. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > through Western Union. Not through drive.com.au, not on eBay, not > anywhere. Most of them don't even bother with the "pick up agent", once that $6k has been sent through WU, they've got their cash and you're f.cked. -mark >This one's very easy to dissect. > >- There is nobody called John Woods. It's a false name. Wrong http://tinyurl.com/j2fto ;-p DJ! - OzDJ OzDJ@clubduh.com http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ > >This one's very easy to dissect. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > OzDJ@clubduh.com > http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ The scammer has multiple personalities ......;-) Bill > Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a bit > sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited info to see [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Kind Regards > John Woods. Common scam. Fraser Thank you to everyone that replied. I had no intention of paying this fool. As I said earlier I sent a fake bounce email to him. But least if someone says they are getting double what they asked for you can then tell them about the scam I am sure some poor bastard desperate for cash would fall for it > So inorder not to share the credit card information with a third party, > I have decided that only one person will have to handle the credit card [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > AUD ) via western union money Transfer, to the pick up agent whose > information I will forward to you once this is confirmed. Unless you have a merchant account how does this guy expect you to be able to charge his credit card? Variation on the scam: no mention of overpayment, it just arrives. When you're honest and contact them to inform them the amount they sent is incorrect they (quite reasonably it seems) ask you to send back the difference. Bank realises the cheque is fraudulent only after you've sent the "difference" off to Sibera via WU where it will never be seen again. If someone ever overpays you by more than a minor amount, RETURN or RIP UP the cheque! Don't cash it! > Have had this email enquiry going this week for an ad i placed. I was a > bit sus on the uk yahoo address but you never know so I sent limited > info to see if it was a scam. http://www.snopes.com/ is your friend! :) HTH elZee You may not have been sucked in Ext User(^Temuchin^) but I bet there are few others in this forum that would have been taken to the cleaners.... Some people are just so gullible. Is it any wonder these scammers keep making loads of money before they get caught.  Signaturelancedickchops -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > You may not have been sucked in Ext User(^Temuchin^) but I bet there are > few others in this forum that would have been taken to the cleaners.... > Some people are just so gullible. Is it any wonder these scammers keep > making loads of money before they get caught. Yeah... a complete lack of context. Nobody will have the slightest idea what you're referring to. Signaturehttp://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg > You may not have been sucked in Ext User(^Temuchin^) but I bet there are > few others in this forum that would have been taken to the cleaners.... > Some people are just so gullible. Is it any wonder these scammers keep > making loads of money before they get caught. What in the f.ck are you talking about, dickchops? A. |
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