"feral" <-

NT need only overide its ARR25 'opt-out regulation' that merely does away
with the suggested ARR 25 rural default for passenger car category.

But I have told them to NOT impose the 110km/h limit on roads where the (//)
signs are physically posted.  The proposal would adopt 110km/h as a maximum,
and NT roads staff would set about removing the signs.  They could keep them
if they desire derestriction on certain lengths.

So the answer is 'yes', the signs must go, less they face the high court
here, or international court of appeal in Geneva.

This change is one of many to be voted on, all part of a raft of changes by
the Feds, Scruby alliance et al for 'harmonisation'.

J.

I am certain he certainly participates regularly in one of those activities.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:22:33 GMT,  "Robert Irvine"
<Robert.Irvine@ILikeSpambigpond.com>  gave aus.cars
<Z7mSg.37008$rP1.15998@news-server.bigpond.net.au>.

NOW READ ON...

Young 'Arold and its surprisingly few merrie minions are an example of
what our Amurrican cousins call "astroturfing".

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

In American politics and advertising, the term astroturfing describes
formal public relations (PR) campaigns which seek to create the
impression of being a spontaneous, grassroots behavior. Hence the
reference to the "AstroTurf" (artificial grass) is a metaphor to
indicate "fake grassroots," or sometimes "fake environmentalism."

The goal of such campaign is to disguise the agenda of a political
client as an independent public reaction to some political entity —a
politician, political group, product, service, event. Astroturfers
attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and
geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach,"
"awareness," etc.) and subvert (disinformation) means.
Contents

   * 1 Word origin
   * 2 Techniques
   * 3 Examples
         o 3.1 Early examples
         o 3.2 Examples from the 1990s
         o 3.3 Recent examples
   * 4 Telecom astroturf
   * 5 Fictional examples
   * 6 See also
   * 7 References
   * 8 External links

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Word origin

The term, said to have been used first in this context by former U.S.
Senator Lloyd Bentsen (Democrat-Texas), is wordplay based on
"grassroots democracy" efforts, which are truly spontaneous
undertakings largely sustained by private persons (not politicians,
governments, corporations, or public relations firms). "AstroTurf"
refers to the bright green artificial grass used in some sports
stadiums, so "astroturfing" refers to artificial grassroots efforts.
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Techniques
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A form of propaganda, astroturfing attempts to selectively affect the
emotions of the public, whether trying to win a campaign, be the top
music record seller, the top book seller, or gain political support.

The most frequently identified cases of astroturfing are found in
recent political history. The concept itself is older and was widely
used by the Soviet Communists.

Astroturfing techniques usually consist of a few people discreetly
posing as mass numbers of activists advocating a specific cause.
Supporters or employees will manipulate the degree of interest through
letters to the editor, e-mails, blog posts, crossposts, trackbacks,
etc. They are instructed on what to say, how to say it, where to send
it, and how to make it appear that their indignation, appreciation,
joy, or hate is entirely spontaneous and independent; thus being
"real" emotions and concerns rather than the product of an
orchestrated campaign. Local newspapers are often victims of
astroturfing, by publishing letters that are identical to letters
other newspapers have received.

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...and so on.

Perhaps a body which boasts a larger number of actual members, and can
demonstrate wider coverage, could be formed as the Actual
Representative Pedestrian Council or some such name.

The Scroob Turkeys only hold the field as long as nobody with a
greater claim to legitimacy comes along.

Beast Wishes,
Ryno

What road toll old being?

I think they have a clue, but it would be political suicide.

Ed Zachery.

As a long-time former resident I can tell you that it isn't whether the
limit is introduced, its only when and by whom.

Pollies on both sides and at both levels want to be seen 'to be doing
something', yet all are wary of being seen as the Boegyman who took away
everyones freedoms.

What IS clear is that even if the Martin government voted in favour of
keeping the status quo, the Feds can veto it as a purely executive
action. Unlike everywhere else, the NT has no 'state's rights'.

In article <451a0b5d$0$15646$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, geracen@iinet.net.au says...

you'll become a full of sh.t, politician?

Al

You'd probably need the signs at every servo in the region, too.  That's
the only place a lot of people stop...

Which is why, in my day, they educated people about stuff like that in
primary school.