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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / October 2006Honest question for Ozone or Pesty
Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. However, my question is: when will MMAL release the upgraded 380 that incorporates 6 airbags and stability control, to counter the likes of Holden, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia? By times time next year? > Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. > > However, my question is: when will MMAL release the upgraded 380 that > incorporates 6 airbags and stability control, to counter the likes of > Holden, Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia? By times time next year? Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where the car is run up the rear. Al  SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? It should do, stability control alone is nothing short of f.cking brilliant. Let's see some crash tests where > the car is run up the rear. You don't think they test rear impact? > >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You don't think they test rear impact? 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. Any link to high speed rear impact testing? Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at >> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. > Any link to high speed rear impact testing? It's not a priority when only 5% of fatalities are from rear impacts. >>> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at >>> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >It's not a priority when only 5% of fatalities are from rear impacts. While that may be so, I'm still feeling the effects of a rear impact I suffered from in 1990. In an XD Falcon, hit in the rear by a car doing around 60kph, seat broke, spine bent in a unique way. At the time, stopped me from playing a number of sports that I was very good at and still causes discomfort at times to this day. Cheers, Rod. >>>> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at >>>> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > a car doing around 60kph, seat broke, spine bent in a unique > way. Yep, sure, but things have come quite a way since the XD days. > At the time, stopped me from playing a number of sports that > I was very good at and still causes discomfort at times to this > day. You are still here to tell us about it ;-) > >> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at > >> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > It's not a priority when only 5% of fatalities are from rear impacts. Still waiting for a link. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> >> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at >> >> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> > Still waiting for a link. www.google.com There, happy now? > >> >> >> Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at > >> >> >> MMAL. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > There, happy now? Lots of info for fuel system integrity. I'd like to see a 380 hit by another 380 from behind with a full load of dummies, tested at 60 km/h or better by Mitsubishi. Link please. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. > Any link to high speed rear impact testing? At 8kph they test for zero damage. They test actual accidents much faster than that. > Al > > 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. > > Any link to high speed rear impact testing? > > At 8kph they test for zero damage. They test actual accidents much faster > than that. $3K damage during testing at 8 km/h rolled into a pole is zero damage? Have you ever been in an 'actual accident', hit from the rear? You will find airbags or traction control will not be of assistance. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> > 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. >> > Any link to high speed rear impact testing? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > $3K damage during testing at 8 km/h rolled into a pole is zero damage? It's primarily about occupant safety, not reducing repair costs. > Have you ever been in an 'actual accident', hit from the rear? > You will find airbags or traction control will not be of assistance. Possibly because the crash physics are completely different for reverse impacts. Since 95 of fatalities occur from front and side impacts I am happy that they make those type of impacts a priority. >Possibly because the crash physics are completely different for reverse >impacts. Huh...how many people crash in reverse? I think he's talking about being hit from behind.... Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>Possibly because the crash physics are completely different for reverse >>impacts. > > Huh...how many people crash in reverse? You know what I mean. > I think he's talking about being hit from behind.... So am I. >>>Possibly because the crash physics are completely different for reverse >>>impacts. >> >> Huh...how many people crash in reverse? > >You know what I mean. Yeah, but if you don't dot evert 'I' and cross every 'T' , Nod will jump all over you. >> I think he's talking about being hit from behind.... > >So am I. Yeah...I knew what you meant..you already said that :-) Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > >>>Possibly because the crash physics are completely different for reverse > >>>impacts. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yeah...I knew what you meant..you already said that :-) This crash test has no mention of the vehicle being struck from behind at speed whilst stationary. http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/_scripts/ancap_detail.php?IID=3928 I have my own pictures from 1981, the CTD was me. Do the seats still rip from their adjuster, does the seat strip it's reclining adjustment, do you still miss the headrest altogether if you are leaning forward looking left waiting for traffic to clear, can your body break a steel support in the seat. These questions and more remain unanswered and would a new car be any safer in this type of impact than an old car or similar weight? I'm sure you would be shocked to see what happens to a stationary vehicle when struck at 60 km/h from behind. They obviously don't want you to know. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > 8 km/h into a pole or pillar doesn't count. > Any link to high speed rear impact testing? I am not aware of any country in the world that has a crash standard for the rear of a vehicle. This is, in part, because the legislators are told that the load in the rear of the vehicle will affect the way that it crumples. Hence the 5MPH "bumper bar damage" type tests but nothing bigger. Interestingly, ADR 10 (the ADR for collapsible steering columns) does not cover cab/chassis vehicles because front crumple might be affected by the body fitted... Possibly a concession to bodies that extend forward over the cab, including many motorhome bodies. Somewhere, I have footage from the NBC Today show of 5MPH comparisons between 2 years of small hatchback (Honda, I think) from when that rule was introduced in the USA. The older vehicle had enough intrusion to bend the floor and the tailgate, shattering the tailgate glass. The newer model just bounced. Externally, they looked identical. SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > > Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where > the car is run up the rear. Well Ozone/Pesty should be able to help. Of of 'em claims to be tight with the production team at Mitsubishi. > Al > -- > I don't take sides. > It's more fun to insult everyone. > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where >> the car is run up the rear. > >Well Ozone/Pesty should be able to help. > >Of of 'em claims to be tight with the production team at Mitsubishi. I have a mate that is a wig at Mitsu. I think "all that sh.t" makes him feel safe....but I'd need to ask. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > I have a mate that is a wig at Mitsu. > I think "all that sh.t" makes him feel safe....but I'd need to ask. Hope he's actively seeking employment opportunities. -- Regards, Noddy. >> I have a mate that is a wig at Mitsu. >> I think "all that sh.t" makes him feel safe....but I'd need to ask. > >Hope he's actively seeking employment opportunities. Actually no. Last time I spoke to him a few weeks back, he was off to Japan to finalise some details about the new models to be released in Oz next year. Before that it was something to do with building a car for Nissan in the Asian market... Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Actually no. > Last time I spoke to him a few weeks back, he was off to Japan to > finalise some details about the new models to be released in Oz next > year. Yeah, I expect the import side of the business is about to improve dramatically. > Before that it was something to do with building a car for Nissan in > the Asian market... I had no idea Nissan was looking to market unpopular cars in Asia. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Actually no. >> Last time I spoke to him a few weeks back, he was off to Japan to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Yeah, I expect the import side of the business is about to improve >dramatically. Why? Are you expecting them to suddenly start importing a car that you actually like? Gonna buy a few thousand are you? >> Before that it was something to do with building a car for Nissan in >> the Asian market... > >I had no idea Nissan was looking to market unpopular cars in Asia. You have no idea, period! Here, I'll help you get an idea http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/04/spawn-of-ek-new-nissan-otti-released-in-japan/ Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Why? > Are you expecting them to suddenly start importing a car that you > actually like? > Gonna buy a few thousand are you? Hardly. There's nothing they currently make that would find it's way onto my wish list. However, once they kill local production they might actually import something that people want for a change. > You have no idea, period! Oh yeah, I do. MMAL should just simply avoid any further embarrassment and close. First thing Monday morning. > Here, I'll help you get an idea > http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/04/spawn-of-ek-new-nissan-otti-released-in-japan/ Ooh. Lurvely :) -- Regards, Noddy. > >> Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where > >> the car is run up the rear. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I have a mate that is a wig at Mitsu. > I think "all that sh.t" makes him feel safe....but I'd need to ask. Waiting for your reply. > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >> >> Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where >> >> the car is run up the rear. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Waiting for your reply. You got it. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >> >> Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where >> >> the car is run up the rear. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Waiting for your reply. Ohhh I see, you're waiting for me to answer the question that was already answered.......You really are a dumb one Andy. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > >> >> Does all that sh.t make you fell safe? Let's see some crash tests where > >> >> the car is run up the rear. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Ohhh I see, you're waiting for me to answer the question that was > already answered.......You really are a dumb one Andy. I fail to see......what you are on about. I am waiting for you to question your wig and come back here and see if you have an answer to my original question. That was not too hard was it? > Oz1...of the 3 twins. > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >That was not too hard was it? No more difficult than it was for you to walk backwards.. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > > > Forgot which one of you claim to be in the know with the folks at MMAL. > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Of of 'em claims to be tight with the production team at Mitsubishi. Probably met em at the pub, since they're only working 4 hour weeks to meet current customer demand for their cars. 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