How does dual zone aircon work?
Obviously, the air coming out one side of the car is a different
temperature (or different flow rate?) to the air coming out the other
side. I'm wondering how this is controlled, particularly when cooling
the air in summer.
I can see three possibilities.
Least likely is two separate HVAC systems operating independently.
It's probably what most car buyers imagine, and it's easiest to
understand, but it would be way too expensive.
It could be that the regulation is done just by flow rate. If the left
side of the car is set colder than the right, then the left gets all
the air direct from the HVAC system; the right gets only a little air,
and relies on "second hand" cool air flowing across from the other
side of the car to maintain target temperature.
The last option is the one that I fear is used: a single aircon system
and two separate heater matrices. The air coming in to the car (or
being recirculated) is cooled by the aircon coil to the cooler of the
two settings, split between the two zones, and the air for the warmer
zone re-heated to the target temperature. That would be affordable -
two small heater cores and a couple of control valves wouldn't be much
more expensive than a single large heater core and control valve. But
it would also be grossly inefficient, using engine power to drive the
aircon to cool the air, then heating half of it up again.
Anybody know the workings of these things?
fs
matt vk3zmw - 03 Feb 2007 00:48 GMT
> How does dual zone aircon work?
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> fs
Pretty much the last one. That's what even non-dual CC systems do even
when you ask for heating-only. The A/C runs anyway. It's done to
de-humidify the air.
Marco - 03 Feb 2007 06:52 GMT
So would I be correct in thinking that if I have my A/C on and the
temperature set to something other than full cold, the A/C is still
operating at full capacity anyway and all I've done is opened the
heater tap to heat some of the dehumidified air coming through the A/C
system?
Marco
matt vk3zmw - 03 Feb 2007 07:09 GMT
> So would I be correct in thinking that if I have my A/C on and the
> temperature set to something other than full cold, the A/C is still
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> Marco
In a CC system, yes.
In a 'manual' system, it depends. Many of the new cars do it this way,
the older ones usually don't.
Fraser Johnston - 05 Feb 2007 12:41 GMT
>> So would I be correct in thinking that if I have my A/C on and the
>> temperature set to something other than full cold, the A/C is still
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> In a 'manual' system, it depends. Many of the new cars do it this way, the
> older ones usually don't.
All the cars I've owned with climate control give you the option to switch the
aircon off manually.
Fraser
Clockmeister - 03 Feb 2007 08:31 GMT
> So would I be correct in thinking that if I have my A/C on and the
> temperature set to something other than full cold, the A/C is still
> operating at full capacity anyway and all I've done is opened the
> heater tap to heat some of the dehumidified air coming through the A/C
> system?
On A/C systems with variable stroke compressors the load determines the rate
of cooling. The load is based on the outside temperature and the temperature
inside the cabin.
On older systems the rate of cycling of the compressor could alter the rate
of cooling.
But basically yes, warm air is mixed with the cold air.
The Raven - 03 Feb 2007 08:44 GMT
> So would I be correct in thinking that if I have my A/C on and the
> temperature set to something other than full cold, the A/C is still
> operating at full capacity anyway and all I've done is opened the
> heater tap to heat some of the dehumidified air coming through the A/C
> system?
Not necessarily. For example the VT onwards commodores are supposed to have
a variable compressor. So, if the required cooling is less than max
theoretically the compressor won't work as hard.

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David Z - 03 Feb 2007 08:34 GMT
No, you don't get two separate HVAC systems at all, unless this is
specifically stated in the car's list of features. Usually you find two
such systems on large people movers, but some luxury cars have it too (the
2nd gen. Lexus LS400 being one example - it had a button you push called
"rear A/C" (or something similar) which turns on the second unit).
> How does dual zone aircon work?
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> fs
Toby Ponsenby - 04 Feb 2007 02:16 GMT
> But
> it would also be grossly inefficient, using engine power to drive the
> aircon to cool the air, then heating half of it up again.
>
> Anybody know the workings of these things?
I believe you answered your own question....

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