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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / February 2007MYO6 Subaru Liberty 6
A few months back I asked for and got some quick advice when my parents were in the market for a new car. Last week whilst visiting them I finally got to drive the damm thing. What I didn't realize is that the ex-demo vehicle they bought was the more upmarket Liberty with the Bilstein suspension package, Momo steering wheel and very low profile tyres. Utterly wasted on a pair of mid 70 year olds of course, so we can take comments in that vein as read thanks. Anyway, I drove the thing extensively while I was down there, including suburban driving, motorway and several trips up and down the Blackall range. Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? Do all of the normally aspirated 6cyl Subarus go that hard, or is there a performance package that goes with the suspension, wheels etc? On my arrival it was at the tyre place having a wheel alignment - the guy's tongue was on the floor and he was just about drooling over the damm thing. I'd be interested if anyone has access to performance data - hp, 1/4mile and ultimate top speed stuff would be nice. I'd like to compare with some other vehicles, but in particular to the straight 6cyl DOHC Celicas, and from history the XU-1 and the 250ci Cortina XLE. Whose got the biggest collection of old Wheels magazines? -- > Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? > > Do all of the normally aspirated 6cyl Subarus go that hard, or is there > a performance package that goes with the suspension, wheels etc? They're an impressive vehicle, there's no doubt about that. -- Regards, Noddy. Blue Heeler wrote: > A few months back I asked for and got some quick advice when my parents > were in the market for a new car. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Utterly wasted on a pair of mid 70 year olds of course, Hang about....I've got the GT wagon. 2L turboed, 5speed manual, Bilsteins, liquorish strip tyres, Momo, goes like the proverbial scalded cat. And I'm clocking over to 70 in July this year. so we can take > comments in that vein as read thanks. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? Good innit When you pull out to pass and flatten it......... (got a radar detector (licence protector) too)(and need it) > > Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? > > > Good innit When you pull out to pass and flatten it......... > > (got a radar detector (licence protector) too)(and need it) From driving it around Brisbane, and even on the motor-way north I simply thought it was a nice, silky smooth, reasonably powerful thing. Mind you, I'd no reason to extend it then. A day later on my way up the range I needed to pass a slower vehicle in front and because I really didn't know how much acceleration was available, I floored it. The comment "Oh my stars" comes to mind.....Shortly replaced by "Gee this is fun innit". As a result of what I was up to down there I'm going to be working in the South for a while and will have it on an extended borrow (my father just had his knee replaced and finds the Landcruiser more to his taste at present) I think that I will be buying a speed alert or I am odds on to do my license in very short order. The last time I got out of a car or off a motorbike with as wide a grin was a Kawasaki BR250 20 years ago- a bike that was simply so much fun to punt around town that I bought one, only to sell it a month later as I was going to lose my license on the thing, somehow I used to behave in more restrained manner on either the R100 or the ZZR. -- Blue Heeler wrote: >>> Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > at present) I think that I will be buying a speed alert or I am odds on > to do my license in very short order. Speaking of knees 'n' things when getting some good news from the bone specialst a couple of days ago he made an interesting statement about the future of his trade in that it's possible to grow new joints and it's testing well on subjects but the problem is getting approval on Humans , thats 5 to 10 years away which if I and manu others are lucky means no more metal joints . A simple grow a new joint externally and add it like repairing a break is far more appealing ? > The last time I got out of a car or off a motorbike with as wide a grin > was a Kawasaki BR250 20 years ago- a bike that was simply so much fun > to punt around town that I bought one, only to sell it a month later as > I was going to lose my license on the thing, somehow I used to behave > in more restrained manner on either the R100 or the ZZR. >> > Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The comment "Oh my stars" comes to mind.....Shortly replaced by "Gee > this is fun innit". So why not buy a radar detector instead, the speed alerts stop ALL fun. I know, I know, they are illegal to use in Qld, so is speeding so why not. If I had teh Coin Id be getting a stealth laser jammer, but seeing as I dont have a spare $1k Ill slow down a bit. :O) >>>> Bloody hell, have these things got some stick or what???????? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> The comment "Oh my stars" what about far canal comes to mind.....Shortly replaced by "Gee >> this is fun innit". > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If I had teh Coin Id be getting a stealth laser jammer, but seeing as I dont > have a spare $1k Ill slow down a bit. :O) With the wiring tucked into the widow surround and the detector hung on the passengers sun visor (and the windows tinted) it is not easy to see. I have got the Valentine One which is not the cheapest but my daughter had a tyre shop and I think I may have just won one of their tyre/mag wheel promotions (wink wink). It looks front AND rear which was good cause it alerted me to the plain clothes who sat on my tail for 15 miles the other day. It's not that I speed, if I'm going anywhere I like to travel as close to the allowable speed as possible. It helps to know where the cu#ts are. > comes to mind.....Shortly replaced by "Gee > > > this is fun innit". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I know, I know, they are illegal to use in Qld, so is speeding so > > why not. Actually for many years I did in fact carry a detector, on a couple of occasions the police even queried the fact that I had one. Problem was that I am (from my distant past) licensed to repair electronic equipment - "that there is a microwave leak detector officer, and if you think any different let's go to court and see what the judge reckons" They may have thought I was possibly being untruthful, but decided it wasn't worth the effort, which is of course what I was banking on. I haven't owned one now for some considerable number of years, I reckon that buying one now would not make economic sense, a speed alert it shall be. -- Blue Heeler wrote: >>comes to mind.....Shortly replaced by "Gee >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that buying one now would not make economic sense, a speed alert it > shall be. Last I heard having a Radar detector in QLD was only $120 fine or some such amount but crossing the border into New South Police State it jumped to $1200 or $1800(can't remember which) for owning, and the same for using and it was confiscated and usually destroyed in front of you(unless you were a QLD resident in witch case you could ask for a receipt and have it returned to you, by mail once you left the state but you still had to pay the fines) and hiding it didn't work as they would search your vehicle untill they found it(that included pulling bits apart) Kev Blue Heeler wrote: > I'd be interested if anyone has access to performance data - hp, > 1/4mile and ultimate top speed stuff would be nice. I'd like to compare > with some other vehicles, but in particular to the straight 6cyl DOHC > Celicas, and from history the XU-1 and the 250ci Cortina XLE. > > Whose got the biggest collection of old Wheels magazines? Sounds like the 3.0R B Spec that I was driving this morning, I dropped a mate and his wife at the airport this morning using his car. Does it have 18" wheels? If so the OE tyres are approx $560.00 ea, replace Bridgestones are a lot cheaper at only $460.00 ea. I don't have any performance data but I know its got 180kw and it loves to rev. IMO they are a brilliant package. Daryl > Sounds like the 3.0R B Spec that I was driving this morning, I > dropped a mate and his wife at the airport this morning using his > car. All I know is that when I flattened it for the first time I was amazed with the sheer grunt of the thing. I looked dunder the bonnet and the aircleanr is about as big a s the ones they fit to V8 stuporcar racers and I couldn't see a bloody thing under it. > Does it have 18" wheels? I suspect so, the wheels themselves look enormous, the rubber is only a few centimetres high, virtually no traditional sidewall at all. It does definitely have the Bilstein suspension package, there are stickers all over the place attesting to that, and whilst it is good on smooth roads, it has very "firm," but accurate respons eover bumps. > If so the OE tyres are approx $560.00 Funny that, my parents are having a bit of a nark with the dealer over the tyres. Car has done 8k kms, but Bridgstone say the tyres are 56% worn - they further say that the OEM tyres should last about 30k km driven gently and around 24k kms with reasonable, but spirited driving. The wear to date is predominately due to wheel alignment rather than hard driving. > ea, replace Bridgestones are a lot cheaper at only $460.00 ea. I > don't have any performance data but I know its got 180kw and it loves > to rev. IMO they are a brilliant package. Mate, I wish it were mine. I am looking forward to having borrowed use of it for a couple of months, but I had a quick look at the RRP for the thing and I don't think I'll be stumping up around $60k for the MYO7 equivalent...... -- Blue Heeler wrote: >> Sounds like the 3.0R B Spec that I was driving this morning, I >> dropped a mate and his wife at the airport this morning using his [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > The wear to date is predominately due to wheel alignment rather than > hard driving. That must be a common problem because the ones on the mates car wore out the inside fronts because of an alignment problem but they did do about 35,000klms. 24,00klms is too low for even spirited driving. >> ea, replace Bridgestones are a lot cheaper at only $460.00 ea. I >> don't have any performance data but I know its got 180kw and it loves [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the thing and I don't think I'll be stumping up around $60k for the > MYO7 equivalent...... It does go hard and handles very well but IMO our my06 2.0R manual Impreza is more fun to drive (maybe its because I prefer a manual trans) , it handles just as good if not better but it does lack the grunt of the 3.0lt. Ours is only 6mths old and has done just over 10,000klms but I've already told my wife I'm trading it in on a WRX when its done about 40,000klms:-) Daryl > That must be a common problem because the ones on the mates car wore out > the inside fronts because of an alignment problem but they did do about > 35,000klms. > 24,00klms is too low for even spirited driving. 24,000 for spirited driving, whats that definition? Donuts on sandpaper? Hell I always drive 'spririted' and usually with loads on but Ive never, unless its competition tyres, got less than 30K from a set., well there was that time that I was about to leave a company and got some nice pics of the delivery van engulfed in smoke.... ;o) "D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:45d80a2c$0$499$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader- > IMO they are a brilliant package. Yep. Totally f.cking brilliant car. I drove one in New Zealand at Christmas, and it's the only car I've driven in the last few years that could make me even think about getting a manual gearbox ;) -- Regards, Noddy. > I drove one in New Zealand at Christmas, and it's the only car I've driven > in the last few years that could make me even think about getting a manual > gearbox ;) What granny shift the tranny? ;-p  SignatureRegards Dan > What granny shift the tranny? ;-p Yeah, right :) There's only one way to shift a manual, and that's exactly the same way as you shift an auto: Foot flat on the throttle :) -- Regards, Noddy. > Blue Heeler wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to rev. > IMO they are a brilliant package. Now all they gotta do is had a pair of intercooled turbos and then you'd be in HSV/FPV territory Kev >> Blue Heeler wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Now all they gotta do is had a pair of intercooled turbos and then you'd > be in HSV/FPV territory Adding a turbo should increase power by about 60kw so with 240kw it would be a rocket. It would be a bit expensive though, they are close enough to $60,000 now so expect to pay a lot more for a turbo 3.0lt. Daryl |
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