Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / April 2007
TomTom Vs Navman
|
|
Thread rating:  |
Peter - 14 Apr 2007 01:02 GMT which of these GPS units is better??
Are they both upgradeable?
I like the Navman F40 but I know nothing Thanks
Ron - 14 Apr 2007 02:57 GMT "Peter" <mine@hotmail.com> wrote in news:13206fvg0hc5b59 @corp.supernews.com:
> which of these GPS units is better?? > > Are they both upgradeable? > > I like the Navman F40 but I know nothing > Thanks Neither, Voxson Foxtrack800 is better :-)
Michael - 14 Apr 2007 05:04 GMT I have 2 Navman 40I and they have been fantastic value - being that they have speed alert also they can help u stay on the speed limit by giving an audible alert - U truely cant beat them for value -
Mike
> "Peter" <mine@hotmail.com> wrote in news:13206fvg0hc5b59 > @corp.supernews.com: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Neither, Voxson Foxtrack800 is better :-) Doug Graves - 14 Apr 2007 10:58 GMT > which of these GPS units is better?? > > Are they both upgradeable? > > I like the Navman F40 but I know nothing > Thanks I have used both extensively. TomTom software sh.ts all over the Navman. Maps etc are more or less the same. If I were buying one with my money, Tomtom would be the go.
Reaper
Who_am_I_? - 14 Apr 2007 13:01 GMT What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ?
Works for me.
 Signature Who_am_I_?
Spankalogical Protocol - 14 Apr 2007 13:39 GMT > What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? > > Works for me. Quit living in the past, man.
Clockmeister - 14 Apr 2007 23:27 GMT >> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? >> >> Works for me. > > Quit living in the past, man. Try using your brain once in a while, yours is starting to rot already.
Noddy - 14 Apr 2007 13:51 GMT > What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? > > Works for me. Yeah, me too.
10 seconds of looking where I need to be in the Melway is enough for me. I don't need some wanky dash mounted display telling me to turn left into someone's driveway.
-- Regards, Noddy.
Clockmeister - 14 Apr 2007 23:32 GMT >> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > don't need some wanky dash mounted display telling me to turn left into > someone's driveway. Yeah, most who have them only have them for w.nk factor anyway.
They rarely get used for their intended purpose.
Fraser Johnston - 17 Apr 2007 07:26 GMT >>> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > They rarely get used for their intended purpose. I use mine all the time. Brilliant bit of kit. Very rarely steers me wrong.
Fraser
x_d - 14 Apr 2007 23:35 GMT > > What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I am a converted user of Tomtom.
I have grown up using the UBD and have no problems navigating my way around (1 yr of backpacking around the world and navigating myself can testify to that).
But the speed of the navigation with the machine is absolutely fantastic. Finding an address by typing it in, letting it work out the route, and then just drive is far faster than doing manually, especially if the route is complex, needing map users to stop to check on the way. Of course this does not apply if you have a passenger who can navigate for you (but my wife - probably as with most women - is hopeless at reading a map :-)))
The best feature is working out an itenery before you go. Last Christmas, I programmed a route with numerous waypoints (addresses of Chistmas light houses that I need to visit) before setting of. All you need to do then is jump into the car after each way point and set off without needing to look at a single map. Believe me all who followed me was impressed.
I am using a PDA with GPS built in (ASUS MyPal model). I run TomTom on it. I have a friend who drives taxi who also swears by the speed and time saved by using these machines.
The biggest problem is the cost of upgrading the maps - at around $300 it's not cheap. My current map is dated 2005!
Cheers
Noddy - 15 Apr 2007 01:36 GMT > But the speed of the navigation with the machine is absolutely > fantastic. Finding an address by typing it in, letting it work out > the route, and then just drive is far faster than doing manually, I'm not totally against the things, and think that if they float your boat then good on you, but I also think that the value of them, apart from the current novelty aspect, depends largely on your general knowledge of your own area.
As someone who used to drive things like tow trucks and breakdown vans, I have a fairly good knowledge of Mebourne, and I expect most people who drive for a living would be in the same boat (taxi drivers excluded). To that end, if I'm looking for an address I've never been to before all I need to know is what the nearest main road is and I can usually find it in a few seconds in the Melway.
> especially if the route is complex, needing map users to stop to check > on the way. Of course this does not apply if you have a passenger who > can navigate for you (but my wife - probably as with most women - is > hopeless at reading a map :-))) I've never had that problem, but then I've never found reading maps difficult. Some people do, and there are those who can't tell north from south or drive 100 yards without consulting the map.
In these situations, such a device would help enormously.
> The best feature is working out an itenery before you go. Last > Christmas, I programmed a route with numerous waypoints (addresses of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The biggest problem is the cost of upgrading the maps - at around $300 > it's not cheap. My current map is dated 2005! Yeah, it's a nice rort :)
I have a PDA, but it's only a phone/pocket PC, and I only wanted it to remind me of what I need to do when I get to where I'm going. I've yet to see anything as accurate or easy to use as a Melway, and as long as they keep making them I'll keep using one.
-- Regards, Noddy.
x_d - 15 Apr 2007 06:11 GMT > > But the speed of the navigation with the machine is absolutely > > fantastic. Finding an address by typing it in, letting it work out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > current novelty aspect, depends largely on your general knowledge of your > own area. A fair enough comment. As Graham said in another reply, I don't have my unit stuck on my windscreen all the time. Only during trips to unknown areas. (It was great going to a new city (Cairns) recently). Otherwise my latest Brisbane UBD/Gregorys serves most of the time.
Oh and one more nifty feature on TomTom is database that it has on interesting places that can show up on the map. Helpful when you want to find accommodation/motels in strange destinations. There is even a package of database that has co-ordinates of red light cameras that the software can warn you in advance (say it beeps 250 m) prior to approaching it. Other details that you can choose to highlight includes scenic places etc...
And it seems to be pretty good at picking out the fastest routes (the data base must also have info on how fast the streets are when rated amongst each other) though you can choose the shortest routes if you prefer.
> As someone who used to drive things like tow trucks and breakdown vans, I > have a fairly good knowledge of Mebourne, and I expect most people who drive [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > see anything as accurate or easy to use as a Melway, and as long as they > keep making them I'll keep using one. If your PDA has bluetooth, you can buy a bluetooth GPS unit after which your PDA can run TomTom (or anyother software for that matter). This is the set up that my brother has on his HP PDA. A bluetooth GPS unit should cost about $120. You can download software for trial before you buy if you know where to look. The advantage of the PDA of course is that you can install other applications as well as being extremely portable from car to car (eg rentals)
Trust me, until you try this technology, you would forever remain a skeptic (a bit like me trying to stick to windows 98 for 2-3 yrs after windows XP came out :-))) - though my work computer still runs win98 for speed of boot up.
Cheers.
> -- > Regards, > Noddy. Peelah Ben Arhna - 21 Apr 2007 06:28 GMT x_d said...
> on the way. Of course this does not apply if you have a passenger who > can navigate for you (but my wife - probably as with most women - is > hopeless at reading a map :-))) Ah, another myth being perpetuated...
> The best feature is working out an itenery before you go. Last > Christmas, I programmed a route with numerous waypoints (addresses of > Chistmas light houses that I need to visit) before setting of. All Did the same, except for houses that we were looking at to buy. Scoured realestate.com.au, printed the list of desirable houses, punched in their addresses and followed the Tom Tom.
Brilliant.
A mate services Telstra equipment. He has a number of routes that are programmed into his navigator (dunno what brand). On any given day he looks up the schedule for that day, then loads the appropriate route and off he goes. What he has to service are all over Melbourne and outer suburbs and outlying regions. So, the navigator is extremely helpful in that regard. Saves having to mentally plan his route to take in the quickest route and for the lesser distance. That, to him, equates to earnings.
Graham Fountain - 15 Apr 2007 03:12 GMT >> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > don't need some wanky dash mounted display telling me to turn left into > someone's driveway. Probably fine if you live in Melboring or Shiteney or Brisvegas and are only navigating around your home city, because you quickly get to know the main roads etc, and pretty much would only need your UBD for the back streets. For someone who doesn't live in, or frequently go to the big smoke though, the GPS is one of the best inventions ever. I can read maps fine, and in the days of UBD could read the map before departing and have a fair idea of where I had to go and could _normally_ get to the destination fine. But all it would take would be a couple of missing street signs, roadworks, or getting forced into an incorrect lane etc, and I'd be up the creek - then it would be a matter of driving until I could find somewhere safe to stop, work out where I am by this stage and try to replot a course to the destination - sometimes this could take a few attempts before finally getting to the destination. Having a passenger helps, but my most common passenger is my wife, who can't read a map to save herself. Having the GPS though was a godsend. The first time I used it to go to brisvegas, I was going to a function at the exhibition grounds (first time in about 15 years, so I didn't really know where they were). I looked on the UBD first, and compared that with the way the GPS said - the GPS decided the same way I would have looking at the UBD. Get down there though, and I found that one of the major roads that I needed to take was closed for roadworks - this would have been almost a disaster for me previously, but I just put my trust in the GPS and followed what it said. Drove around a few streets, and before I knew it, I was where I needed to be. It had me at the destination, probably quicker than I could have found somewhere to park to read the map. Bloody Marvellous!!! I now find driving around unknown areas far less stressful than it used to be, and I can concentrate more on actually driving, than on trying to read dicky little streetsigns that may not exist, etc. As for using it in my home town - no point really. I will occassionally use the map in it to find where a back street is (just like I would have used the UBD in the past), but never use it to actually tell me where to go. It will occasionally go on for novelty factor, just to see how it's course compares to mine etc. It's when going to Brissy and Shiteney for someone who isn't there frequently enough to know there way around at all, where the thing comes into it's own.
> -- > Regards, > Noddy. Peelah Ben Arhna - 21 Apr 2007 05:22 GMT nospam said...
> 10 seconds of looking where I need to be in the Melway is enough for me. > I don't need some wanky dash mounted display telling me to turn left > into someone's driveway. Maybe not. But for me we found the Tom Tom invaluable whenever visiting unfamiliar suburbs. Just punch in the destination address, let it do its stuff and off we go.
Had to go to the other side of MEL to pick up a car from Pickles Auctions. Then from there we went to Vicroads in Broadmeadows (now, THAT was an experience in itself). Programmed in the destinations for each of the above. Took us there no probs.
On the way home it was a bit of a worry. Punched in my "home" as the destination. It calc'ed he route and off we went. Followed the destructions and started to wonder, where the farque is it taking us? Saw what appeared to be the freeway off to my right. Anyway, gave the TT the benefit of the doubt. Sure enough, 3 mins. later we were on the freeway and on our way.
It's handy too in that it gives you ETA to destination, remaining time on the road, etc.
Just JT - 15 Apr 2007 06:28 GMT > What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The SatNav GPS vs. paper map arguments have been discussed to death in this forum.
-- Please.check.the.Google.archives
Doug Graves - 16 Apr 2007 09:50 GMT > What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? They are inefficient. The satnav saves me around 2 hours per week *easily* maybe even more.
Reaper
Bernd Felsche - 16 Apr 2007 10:01 GMT >> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ?
>They are inefficient. The satnav saves me around 2 hours per week >*easily* maybe even more. I've done some forward planning for a trip using TomTom.
Seemed to work alright. Ran the simulation but it didn't appear to tell me to wait for the ferry to cross a lake. :-)
Little wonder that the "amphibious" car could only manage 12 km/h on the water.
 Signature /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | "If we let things terrify us, X against HTML mail | life will not be worth living." / \ and postings | Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4BC - 65AD.
Doug Graves - 17 Apr 2007 00:19 GMT >>> What's wrong with Gregorys or UBD or Melways/Sydways ? > >>They are inefficient. The satnav saves me around 2 hours per week >>*easily* maybe even more. > > I've done some forward planning for a trip using TomTom. I have an excellent knowledge of most of Melbourne usually take my own route between suburbs but it comes into its own when it comes to pinpointing addresses.
> Seemed to work alright. Ran the simulation but it didn't appear to > tell me to wait for the ferry to cross a lake. :-) > > Little wonder that the "amphibious" car could only manage 12 km/h on > the water. Meh - whats wrong with you?
Reaper
sgam@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2007 06:46 GMT > which of these GPS units is better?? > > Are they both upgradeable? > > I like the Navman F40 but I know nothing > Thanks I sell both, so it doesn't matter to me which way you go! :)
That said, Navman do one thing that to my knowledge, no other unit does: You can search for an address by *street* first, then town, rather than being forced to look for the town/suburb first.
When, like me, someone lives in two suburbs (origin energy Gas agree with my landlord that I'm in Mordialloc, but Origin energy Electricity have me in Parkdale - as does Sensis) this can be an easier way to find a location.
Also, apart from the Tom tom One A, none of their units are particularly pocketable, where as the N40i and even N60i Navman units both will fit into your shirt pocket without a problem. Good for two reasons - you're less likely to leave it in your car if it's easy to walk around with it - and therefore less likely to have it stolen (these things are prime theft targests). Also, handy if you have to park some distance from a particular address and want to navigate on foot. :)
cheers, Steve
Greg - 15 Apr 2007 07:55 GMT > That said, Navman do one thing that to my knowledge, no other unit > does: > You can search for an address by *street* first, then town, rather > than being forced to look for the town/suburb first. My Mio C510 does this too (you can leave the suburb blank and hit "Done", and then proceed to the street), however it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired. Rather than list the suburbs (once the street has been entered) in a sensible order (distance from cursor, current location, etc), it lists them in what appears to be an arbitrary order. The first ones in the list could be hundreds of km away. Not much good for common street names! Just out of curiousity, is the Navman any better in this regard?
Greg.
sgam@hotmail.com - 16 Apr 2007 07:51 GMT On Apr 15, 4:55 pm, "Greg" <greg.REMOVEsulli...@THIScomputer.org> wrote:
> <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Greg. Yes, it lists them alphabetically in much the same order as, say, a Melways or UBD index. But you can narrow it down in a search.
I hope you like the Mio, they've got some nice features. I do hope you don't have any technical issues with them - we actually stopped dealing with their distributor because backup and support for our customers was just too hard.
Cheers, Steve
Greg - 16 Apr 2007 21:41 GMT > Yes, it lists them alphabetically in much the same order as, say, a > Melways or UBD index. But you can narrow it down in a search. There is no ability to search this particular list on the Mio. Oh well.
> I hope you like the Mio, they've got some nice features. Yes, I do like it, despite the drawbacks.
> I do hope > you don't have any technical issues with them - we actually stopped > dealing with their distributor because backup and support for our > customers was just too hard. FWIW, customer support has been answering my queries very rapidly.
Greg.
|
|
|