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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / June 2007Motor bike riders
A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of days ago. Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely and without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then formed a two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after they overtook they also were doing the limit. Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from the left. The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention. He acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he joined his friends. I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. > I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders > a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them > did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. We call them the one percenters. The one percent that are fuckwits that make it look bad for everyone else. Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%, mob mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow.  SignatureLinux Registered User # 302622 <http://counter.li.org> >> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle >> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%, mob > mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow. That did indeed appear to be the case though they are fuckwits just the same in my book. Hats off to the rider on the end though, wish more motorists were like him. Clockmeister blathered on in Re: Motor bike riders: >>> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle >>> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hats off to the rider on the end though, wish more motorists were like him. Probably the instructor. -- Toby >> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle >> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%, > mob mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow. WRONG 1% ers are your bikies and outlaw type gang members. Don't confuse the 2 You are thinking of Temporary citizens. > >> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle > >> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Don't confuse the 2 > You are thinking of Temporary citizens. Actually you are both correct. The original poster's use of the term is correct, and it's only after it was used negatively toward them that certain motorcycle clubs started to use the term as one of endearment. Although the two groups are by no means comparable, a similar thing happened with our soldiers in libya in ww2. The german propoganda broadcast (in english to attempt to demoralise the aussies) referred to them as the pitiful 'rats' of tobruk, an allusion to their lack of reinforcements/supply, and being outnumbered. They took to the new name rather well, and cheekily referred to themselves thusly with a certain sense of pride. And well deserved too. Can we now get back to 4wds, shemales and schizophrenics with delusions of a stable of ferraris? SignatureJohn McKenzie tosspam@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@aol.com vice.president@whitehouse.gov president@whitehouse.gov sweep.day@accc.gov.au uce@ftc.gov admin@loopback abuse@iprimus.com.au If you didn't know it was wrong,why did you cover it up? abuse@msn.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME@localhost -h1024@localhost root@mailloop.com abuse@federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo@psinet.com abuse@cia.gov $USER@localhost abuse@sprint.com abuse@fbi.gov abuse@asio.gov.au $LOGIN@localhost > A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane > highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > further up in which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect > them to come from the left. That happens a lot in my area. They obviously have a death wish. > The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved > slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his > intention. He acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after > overtaking and he joined his friends. Must have been an 'older' rider :-) > I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle > riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly > five of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. Beats me.. Ron >I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders >a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them >did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. I often wondered the same thing about all road users... until I decided that the average road user is pretty damn stupid. Then someone pointed out that half of the rest are even more stupid. So there's your 3 out of 8! :)) SignatureJohn H > Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive > speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in > which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from > the left. Speaking of this sort of thing, I was more than a little surprised to be undertaken in the breakdown lane of the Federal Highway (freeway- standard road) a couple of weeks ago by an AU Falcon. On a double demerit weekend, might I add. Marco >A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane highway >with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of days ago. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them did > the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. Because regardless of vehicle choice there are fuckwits everywhere. Thankfully the fuckwits on bikes tend to solve the problem themselves in short order. Fraser (whose bike didn't start today so he had to take the car to work. Booooo!!!!!!!!!) > A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane > highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them > did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. I was on the bike one time (going to eastern creek) loaded with camping gear and a young prick on a bike riding in a group undertook on a corner. I was severely tempted to boot him off into the bushes. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders > a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them > did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. Just a guess, but back when I had a life, and used to ride with a club (crotch rockets, not tractors, I mean harleys) usually a couple of experienced riders would be up front, and then the new blokes and one or two experienced riders bringing up the rear. Tended to be safer and kept the new blokes to a more sensible pace in the areas where it was twisty or there was any traffic to speak of. It'd fit, the 'idiots' were the newies, too stupid to wait and all trying to one-up each other by passing quickly. SignatureJohn McKenzie tosspam@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@aol.com vice.president@whitehouse.gov president@whitehouse.gov sweep.day@accc.gov.au uce@ftc.gov admin@loopback abuse@iprimus.com.au If you didn't know it was wrong,why did you cover it up? abuse@msn.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME@localhost -h1024@localhost root@mailloop.com abuse@federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo@psinet.com abuse@cia.gov $USER@localhost abuse@sprint.com abuse@fbi.gov abuse@asio.gov.au $LOGIN@localhost >A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane >highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five > of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end. I was following a bike rider in traffic the other day for about 10km, he didn't lane split, (gave him plenty of space off my bullbar) through multiple sets of lights, it felt weird to be behind him, I nearly felt like pulling over and letting someone else follow him, I can't recall ever following a bike rider riding like you would drive a car for that long before. He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a working muffler. > He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a > working muffler. Must be an aftermarket addition. >> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but >> with a working muffler. > > Must be an aftermarket addition. must be a japper In article <4679f358$0$1186$61c65585@un-2park-reader- 01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>, atec 77 <"atec 77 at hotmai dot .com"> says... > >> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but > >> with a working muffler. > > > > Must be an aftermarket addition. > > > must be a japper A tarts handbag Virago perhaps. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a >> working muffler. > > Must be an aftermarket addition. Plently of harley looking jap bikes. All the big jap companies make them. Fraser >> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but >> with a working muffler. > > Must be an aftermarket addition. chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation harley". I wonder if the cops are going to finally get the guts to take on the noisy harleys, now that their bosses reckon they're going after their criminal activities? SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer > chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation > harley". All Harleys come from the factory with quiet pipes. The problem is that a lot of riders like them loud (I'm f.cked if I know why but they seem to), and as it takes all of ten minutes to change the pipes it's a pretty simple affair to get around the law. One of the blokes I know has what is probably the loudest HD I've ever heard, and he gets pinched for it all the time. The coppers book him for a noise violation and order him to present the bike for an EPA test. He simply goes home, throws on his "quiet" pipes, passes the test and rides straight home to put his loud pipes back on. I imagine he's not the only one who does this either. -- Regards, Noddy. >> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation >> harley". [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I imagine he's not the only one who does this either. Why can't they fine them every time they do it? I'm getting tired of them, there's so many and they're so bloody loud it hurts. My car has a rubber roof, which makes the noise worse than inside the average car, I guess. plus the racket pollutes living areas too. I really hate them. If someone's booked for a noise violation repeatedly, surely they can do something about it? SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer > Why can't they fine them every time they do it? "They" do. The fines just aren't big enough. It'd be more effective to have an impounding scheme like for burnouts. > If someone's booked for a noise violation repeatedly, surely they can do > something about it? Only if "they" want to. Legislation is easy to draft... SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > Why can't they fine them every time they do it? They have to get caught first, and although he's been pinched a few times it doesn't stop him from doing the same thing every time. > I'm getting tired of them, there's so many and they're so bloody loud it > hurts. My car has a rubber roof, which makes the noise worse than inside > the average car, I guess. plus the racket pollutes living areas too. I > really hate them. Me too :) I used to own a HD and loved the thing, but it was pretty quiet. I've ridden a few loud bikes, and the noise drove me fucken nuts after a while. Why most people who have loud bikes think it sounds "cool" is totally beyond me. > If someone's booked for a noise violation repeatedly, surely they can do > something about it? Apparently not. He never actually gets fined for being in breach of the EPA laws, as when he presents his bike for testing it meets the requirements, so technically he's not in foul of the law. I think the odd copper has issued him with a defect notice, and that costs him 90 bucks or so to get a roadworthy inspection done and have the defect removed, but that's largely up to the discretion of the copper who books him at the time. As far as I'm aware, there is no limit to the number of times you can be pinched for such an offence. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Why can't they fine them every time they do it? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Why most people who have loud bikes think it sounds "cool" is totally > beyond me. Because most Harley riders are really doof doof boys in disguise. [ducks] > >> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation > >> harley". [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > If someone's booked for a noise violation repeatedly, surely they can do > something about it? The noisiest and most illegal things in our street are unregistered trail bikes. Sometimes even helmetless rider. Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > The noisiest and most illegal things in our street are > unregistered trail bikes. Sometimes even helmetless > rider. I've got some of them, too! I asked them nicely to stop it. They didn't, so now I start to explore my other options. what scum some people are. SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer >> The noisiest and most illegal things in our street are >> unregistered trail bikes. Sometimes even helmetless [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > so now I start to explore my other options. > what scum some people are. Just drive over them. >>> The noisiest and most illegal things in our street are >>> unregistered trail bikes. Sometimes even helmetless [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Just drive over them. Tempted! SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer >> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation >> harley". [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I imagine he's not the only one who does this either. I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have harleys spend more time polishing them and posing on them than riding them. So they hardly get to hear the loud pipes anyway. What really shocks me is that with a 1300cc engine on a harley it is still slow, 1300cc on a hayabusa is bloody insane. Fraser > I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have harleys > spend more time polishing them and posing on them than riding them. So they > hardly get to hear the loud pipes anyway. What really shocks me is that with a > 1300cc engine on a harley it is still slow, 1300cc on a hayabusa is bloody > insane. Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) SignatureRegards Dan >> I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have >> harleys [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high > tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) But why do you need torque in a bike? It's not like you are towing your boat with the f.cker. Fraser >> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high >> tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) > > But why do you need torque in a bike? It's not like you are towing your boat > with the f.cker. Maybe not but they have to shift the hefty sized beer bellied bikers though. :-) SignatureRegards Dan >>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high >>> tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > though. > :-) Good point. Though you are more likely to find lawyers and accountants on them today. Fraser > Good point. Though you are more likely to find lawyers and accountants on > them today. Pretty much :) You also have to bear in mind that most HD engines rev about as well as your average lawn mover, so whatever torque they can make within their fairly limited rev range is a bonus. -- Regards, Noddy. >>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high >>>> tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Good point. Though you are more likely to find lawyers and accountants on them > today. They have beerguts too you know. > Fraser >>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a high >>> tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > though. > :-) When I was in the states a while back visiting some of the good "ole" boys made me look tiny so I guess you are right .( buggered if I know how they could walk ((fat bastards))) >>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a >>>> high [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > made me look tiny so I guess you are right .( buggered if I know how they > could walk ((fat bastards))) Trust you to hang out with degenerate simple folk. >>>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a >>>>> high [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Trust you to hang out with degenerate simple folk. Trust you to have not an ioata of common sense and nary a clue about why . >>>>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a >>>>>> high [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> > Trust you to have not an ioata of common sense and nary a clue about why . You didn't have to prove your inbred retardation to the world so succinctly with that illiterate mess, we are already well aware. >>>>>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to a >>>>>>> high [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > You didn't have to prove your inbred retardation to the world so succinctly > with that illiterate mess, we are already well aware. take your hand of that teent tiny thing and tell your boyfriend to pull out as well. >>>>>>>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to >>>>>>>> a high [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > take your hand of that teent tiny thing and tell your boyfriend to pull > out as well. That level of homophobia is indicative of a desire to cover ones own homosexuality so as well as being a inbred ignorant and illiterate retard you are also a closet poof. Well done, now run along little man... Great big Yawn again forever. Too many big words like "marmalade" so dopey runs away... >>> Ya get that with a low tech high torque V-twin cruiser compared to >>> a high tech screamer in a crotch rocket. :-) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > though. > :-) The sad old losers who ride Harleys (on weekends, in their special Harley Riding Costume) seem to think that stump-pulling power means their balls are extremely large and powerful. Of course, the average Harley if asked to pull a stump would stall and go into a slow meltdown complete with grey smoke. SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer > But why do you need torque in a bike? It's not like you are towing your > boat with the f.cker. I had a 1961 Duoglide that was stripped down a fair bit from it's "factory" configuration, which meant it lost it's fairing, windscreen and panniers (for no reason other than that's the way I preferred the look of it), and even in that state it still weighed in at *well* over 300kg. Believe me, on a bike that heavy with a four speed box and a fairly tall final drive, you need all the torque you could get. -- Regards, Noddy. > But why do you need torque in a bike? It's not like you are towing your boat > with the f.cker. Without being a smartass - have you ridden one? It's not strictly about performance at all, but the flexibility of most tractor engines means they are actually a somewhat more relaxed cruiser. You don't have to shift down 45 gears each time you slow down (alright I realise that's ridiculous) It's just not about that. For the few people that aren't fuckheads that are into big v-twin type bikes, it's about something more primal, a loud(ish) thumper with an overwhelming link to the past. You really can get into how daredevils of another time might have felt punting around on them. They can still be fairly quick in a straight line (not for their capacity, strictly, but you get my drift) . Hell it's truly somewhat like horse-riding in the wild west too, in a some ways. I don't know all that many people who don't like them after riding one for a day or two. I'm not saying you'd ride one then think 'it's the only style of bike I'll ever ride again' - not even close, but it's legitimately fun. I never went in for the chrome and w.nk of it all, and had a lot of fun on the crotch rockets too (I really liked 2 stroke road bikes, the earlier ones, not the rgv250s - I couldn't fit on them, I'm not saying I'm the worlds best rider, but I certainly had better throttle control on big 2 strokes than some seemed to) SignatureJohn McKenzie tosspam@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@aol.com vice.president@whitehouse.gov president@whitehouse.gov sweep.day@accc.gov.au uce@ftc.gov admin@loopback abuse@iprimus.com.au If you didn't know it was wrong,why did you cover it up? abuse@msn.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME@localhost -h1024@localhost root@mailloop.com abuse@federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo@psinet.com abuse@cia.gov $USER@localhost abuse@sprint.com abuse@fbi.gov abuse@asio.gov.au $LOGIN@localhost >> But why do you need torque in a bike? It's not like you are towing your >> boat [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I'm the worlds best rider, but I certainly had better throttle control > on big 2 strokes than some seemed to) I've never ridden one. It is now on my list of things to do. Fraser >>> I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have >>> harleys [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Fraser basically with torque you only need a couple of gears , twist and go , considering what the HD were designed for the missing 350kg of crap makes a difference . > basically with torque you only need a couple of gears , twist and go , > considering what the HD were designed for the missing 350kg of crap > makes a difference . So they're good for people who aren't great with clutches and gears? Almost an automatic motorbike?! SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer >>> I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have >>> harleys [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Fraser Well I have seen them towing small camper trailers :) >>> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation >>> harley". [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > 1300cc engine on a harley it is still slow, 1300cc on a hayabusa is bloody > insane. I was looking at the Hayabusa a friends son recently bought last Sunday, its an 06 with only 4000klms on the odo, apparently the bloke he bought it from lives in the inner city and its hardly ever used more than 1st and 2nd gear so he decided it was being wasted and sold it quite cheaply. Nice toy, I just hope he takes it easy till he gets the hang of all that power. Daryl >>>> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation >>>> harley". [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Daryl He should have just changed the drive cogs til his top speed was 100kph, so he could use all the gears :) >>>>> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation >>>>> harley". [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > He should have just changed the drive cogs til his top speed was 100kph, so > he could use all the gears :) Either that or just go from first to top gear. Daryl > I can't work it out either. My only explanation is that guys who have > harleys spend more time polishing them and posing on them than riding > them. So they hardly get to hear the loud pipes anyway. What really > shocks me is that with a 1300cc engine on a harley it is still slow, > 1300cc on a hayabusa is bloody insane. Being very different machines is the reason for that. I like Harleys, but I appreciate them for what they are in that they're a very good comfortable cruiser. Compared to just about any Jap cafe' racer they go, stop and handle like sh.t, but if that bothered you then buying a HD is a pretty stupid idea. The engines don't make a lot of power for their capacity, but then they've never been designed to, or been fitted to a chassis that would benefit from it. It's like comparing a 5 litre V8 in a Fairlane, and a similar sized engine in a Ferrari. Both do a pretty good job in their intended role, but one is f.cking hopeless if trying to match the other. -- Regards, Noddy. > The engines don't make a lot of power for their capacity, but then they've > never been designed to, or been fitted to a chassis that would benefit from > it. It's like comparing a 5 litre V8 in a Fairlane, and a similar sized > engine in a Ferrari. Both do a pretty good job in their intended role, but > one is f.cking hopeless if trying to match the other. The difference being, the Harley costs the SAME as the Hayabusa. Try that with a Ferrari and a Fairlane and see how much you sell. > The difference being, the Harley costs the SAME as the Hayabusa. Try that > with a Ferrari and a Fairlane and see how much you sell. The price is totally beside the point. The point is that both machines are built for very different purposes, and trying to use one in the role that the other does really well isn't particularly clever. -- Regards, Noddy. >> The engines don't make a lot of power for their capacity, but then they've >> never been designed to, or been fitted to a chassis that would benefit from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The difference being, the Harley costs the SAME as the Hayabusa. Try that > with a Ferrari and a Fairlane and see how much you sell. By the same you really mean double. 18k ride away for a busa. At least 30 for a Harley. Fraser > All Harleys come from the factory with quiet pipes. Precisely. They are right on the noise limit, but they are very quiet compared to the aftermarket ones. > The problem is that a lot of riders like them loud (I'm f.cked if I know why > but they seem to), and as it takes all of ten minutes to change the pipes > it's a pretty simple affair to get around the law. One of the blokes I know > has what is probably the loudest HD I've ever heard, and he gets pinched for > it all the time. The coppers book him for a noise violation and order him to > present the bike for an EPA test. > He simply goes home, throws on his "quiet" pipes, passes the test and rides > straight home to put his loud pipes back on. > I imagine he's not the only one who does this either. Certainly not. A customer today mentioned that he also has a harley that is only a year old. The original pipes are in his garage and the pipes on the bike are marked as "for offroad use only", but the markings are only visible from underneath - the pipes have less than 200mm ground clearance so the only way to see the markings is with a mirror or camera. SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > > chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation > > harley". > > All Harleys come from the factory with quiet pipes. have you actually heard to how quiet the exhausts have to be for new bikes? A mate had a big bore big stroke custom engine on a chopper he built, and the thing sounded like a sewing machine. > The problem is that a lot of riders like them loud (I'm f.cked if I know why > but they seem to), Generally because then mr average retard driver hears the f.cking thing and doesn't cut them off. At least that's _a_ legitimate reason, but I'll bet for 99% of them it is not _the_ reason. SignatureJohn McKenzie tosspam@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@aol.com vice.president@whitehouse.gov president@whitehouse.gov sweep.day@accc.gov.au uce@ftc.gov admin@loopback abuse@iprimus.com.au If you didn't know it was wrong,why did you cover it up? abuse@msn.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME@localhost -h1024@localhost root@mailloop.com abuse@federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo@psinet.com abuse@cia.gov $USER@localhost abuse@sprint.com abuse@fbi.gov abuse@asio.gov.au $LOGIN@localhost > Generally because then mr average retard driver hears the f.cking thing > and doesn't cut them off. At least that's _a_ legitimate reason, but > I'll bet for 99% of them it is not _the_ reason. I wouldn't think so either, but I expect there's some sort of intimidating factor in there somewhere. -- Regards, Noddy. >>> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but >>> with a working muffler. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > harleys, now that their bosses reckon they're going after their criminal > activities? Nah , local angels had a "little" meeting on the weekend , only about 400 bikes showed , local police station had 3 whole blues in attendance ... I can see it now . >>A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane >>highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a > working muffler. I ride like that. I only ever lanesplit stopped traffic if I know the light is going to be red for a while. Fraser |
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