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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / June 2007Jeep Compass AKA Jeep FUGLY
Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual Turbo diesel for a test drive next week as at least they have the sense to have a powertrain of this calibre. Claiming 6 litres per 100klms is an exceptional claim even though it is only a 2 litre powerplant. As my CR-V will have the 30,000klms up (that's when I change my work horse), I have decided to have a look at the FUGLY as a replacement, because of 2 things. One is, whilst Noddy and I are from different planets, (I know Noddy wouldn't have a Jeep if he thought they were crap) I still appreciate his comments (albeit rude) and the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still dreaming about. (including Honda). I will post my experience next week with an honest unbiased opinion. DAVO > Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. > What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual Turbo [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > dreaming about. (including Honda). > I will post my experience next week with an honest unbiased opinion. WOW, I can't wait. Let us know how you go with the Pope Mobile today > Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. > What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual Turbo > diesel for a test drive next week as at least they have the sense to have a > powertrain of this calibre. Claiming 6 litres per 100klms is an exceptional > claim even though it is only a 2 litre powerplant. Yeah, it truly is one of the more repulsive new cars launched lately. And in an era of really ugly cars, that's saying something! > As my CR-V will have the 30,000klms up (that's when I change my work horse), Gawd...if I did that, I'd have a new car every 10-11 months! I picked up my VE on 26 February and have 12,400km on it already. Part of me wonders why I bought a new car only to completely trash its resale value in a couple of years, but the rest of me isn't that worried about it given that I plan to keep the car for a very long time. I think, though, that next time I buy a car, if I'm not after anything special then I'll be off to the ex-Govt auctions. If my wife's cunning plan to have a big family comes to fruition, I'll be low-km- used-Tarago man before you know it. > I have decided to have a look at the FUGLY as a replacement, because of 2 > things. One is, whilst Noddy and I are from different planets, (I know Noddy > wouldn't have a Jeep if he thought they were crap) I still appreciate his > comments (albeit rude) and the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring > out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still > dreaming about. (including Honda). There's a fair few other diesel SUVs around at the moment - Captiva and Santa Fe are two that come to mind immediately and there's probably others. Are you driving anything else, or just the Compass? Marco > Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. > What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. It ain't pretty, but pretty has never been a Jeep hallmark in my opnion. > Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual Turbo diesel for a test drive next week > as at least they have the sense to have a powertrain of this calibre. > Claiming 6 litres per 100klms is an exceptional claim even though it is > only a 2 litre powerplant. It is indeed. I'd be more than a little surprised if that figure was achievable in the real world. > As my CR-V will have the 30,000klms up (that's when I change my work > horse), I have decided to have a look at the FUGLY as a replacement, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Jeep had the sense to bring out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, > something the others are still dreaming about. (including Honda). I make no bones about *any* Jeep other than the Cherokee I own, as that's been good. I don't particularly like any of the others, and have no experience with any of them later than the '99 model I have now. I've only ever owned two Jeeps (the current Cherokee and a '43 Willys MB which is the only *real* jeep for mine), and as for the rest I couldn't care less one way or the other. I'm not a Jeep fan per se'. > I will post my experience next week with an honest unbiased opinion. Somehow, I don't think you will :) You're already behind the 8 ball with your feelings that the thing is "ugly" and "typical Jeep", and if you're going into an evaluation like that you're pretty unlikely to come away with anything positive unless the vehicle is sensational (and without knowing jack sh.t about them I'd be guessing that it won't be). If you want some free advice, then I'd get a Mazda Tribute or a Ford Territory and put it on gas. Either will sh.t on anything Jeep make, or most of the other "soft roaders" you're likely to find, and cost you less to run than a Hyundai Getz. Out of curiosity, why do you offload your vehicles at 30k km? -- Regards, Noddy. the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring > out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still > dreaming about. (including Honda). > DAVO Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. > Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 > and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. The XJ Cherokee was available as a turbo diesel for a long time as well, so I'm f.cked if I know what he's on about. For someone who is keen to criticize Jeeps he sure knows f.ck all about them :) -- Regards, Noddy. >> Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 >> and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. > > The XJ Cherokee was available as a turbo diesel for a long time as well, so > I'm f.cked if I know what he's on about. For someone who is keen to > criticize Jeeps he sure knows f.ck all about them :) The Cherokee is a real 4WD whereas the Compass appears to be a soft roader (no low range) so maybe thats what he meant? Daryl > The Cherokee is a real 4WD whereas the Compass appears to be a soft roader > (no low range) so maybe thats what he meant? Maybe. Why any c.nt would want a turbo diesel in a shitheap the size of the Compass is beyond me though. It might get very good mileage, but it's also probably as gutless as David Z. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 >> and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I trust your mechanical skills are much better than your f.cking pathetic English comprehension. "and the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still dreaming about. (including Honda)." Do you know what a f.cking "SUV" is you f.cking sh.t for brains??? DAVO > I trust your mechanical skills are much better than your f.cking pathetic > English comprehension. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Do you know what a f.cking "SUV" is you f.cking sh.t for brains??? It's apparently some w.nk term the Americans use to describe a whole host of vehicles, including those made by Jeep, and the fact that Jeep had been making a turbo diesel "SUV" for around 20 years was obviously something you were completely oblivious to :) -- Regards, Noddy. >>> Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 >>> and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Do you know what a f.cking "SUV" is you f.cking sh.t for brains??? I have never seen a decent definition of the term, if you have one please fill us in. IMO its a useless non descriptive term that means very little but if your definition is any good maybe I might change my mind:-) Daryl > the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Correction...Land Rover bought out the freelander in diesel form in 1998 > and it's still is in diesel form today (TD4), so Jeep aren't the first. Of course you are right, but at over $61,000 for the comparable TD4 2.2 HSE model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out of the question of comparison. DAVO >> the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >>> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > DAVO I wasn't really comparing pricing but only the fact that it did come out in diesel form from the start as your comment reflected. Arh..but the HSE is the top model..... $57,000 BTW and you can get the SE diesel for $51,000..still a expensive pile of sh.t. When the TD4 came out in 2001 they were selling for the same price as the Compass, it's only since the Freelander 2 came out that they've really over priced themselves. >>> the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >>>> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > since the Freelander 2 came out that they've really over priced > themselves. I understand what you are saying as I wasn't very clear in my statement of what I was referring to. By the time you add on the onroads, gov. charges etc etc. you will find the cost is up to the $61,000. Personally, I prefer the top model when buying as it saves making changes later and the trade in price would still be based on the base model despite fitting the extras. My CRV is the "top of the range" and I got it for less than $40,000 September last year. I am very satisfied with it despite being constantly "bagged" in here but this time I will consider the Compass for its value for money in a TD4. The Freelander whilst no doubt is an exceptional vehicle, is way way overpriced for what it is. DAVO >> the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >>> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out of the question of > comparison. Anyone who pays $61,000 for a Freelander is f.cking insane, that price is nuts. Landrovers used to be reasonably priced now they seem very much overpriced, its no wonder I see so few Freelanders on the road. Daryl > Anyone who pays $61,000 for a Freelander is f.cking insane, that price is > nuts. > Landrovers used to be reasonably priced now they seem very much overpriced, > its no wonder I see so few Freelanders on the road. You don't see them because they live in the garage. Remember that dude who bought one and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Then posted 6 months later saying it needed a new motor for some ludicrous amount of money. Fraser >> Anyone who pays $61,000 for a Freelander is f.cking insane, that price is >> nuts. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > bought one and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Then posted 6 > months later saying it needed a new motor for some ludicrous amount of money. That's part of the problem but AFAIK the later ones and especially the TD4's are a lot better but for $61,000 there are plenty of better vehicles that have some off road capability. Daryl > You don't see them because they live in the garage. Remember that dude > who bought one and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Then > posted 6 months later saying it needed a new motor for some ludicrous > amount of money. > > Fraser ROTFL...I remember that guy too....you w.nker. 1. It wasn't 6 months but 4 years 2. It didn't need a new motor, but was only looking into another motor as a alternative as it was going to be cheaper since LR parts are so bloody expensive. 3. It had nothing to do with the LR brand because the engine was 100% BMW 4. The thing that caused the problem was a seized injector (I mean the whole injector was seized within the cyl. head, not just the injector) which can happen to ANY common rail diesel due to the heat and pressures the injectors run...so basically a design fault.....a BMW design fault! 5.It was the useless LR mechanics not knowing what they were doing that really completely stuffed the injector, I suspect they did it purposely so to get the money out of me as I already had taken it to another diesel specialist who tried to remove it and ended up breaking their tools instead but the injector was still working fine, 24 hrs at a LR workshop and they destroyed the injector, then were asking for 13G to fix it. 6. As per usual for here the facts have been so distorted and dramatised that it's funny. > 6. As per usual for here the facts have been so distorted and dramatised > that it's funny. You forgot to mention that Land Rovers are great vehicles when they're going and c.nts of things when they're not, and one of their major problems (apart from being as dear as poison to repair) is that they're *not* going a hell of a lot just like any other English made car. You can try to justify it any way you wish, but looking at a new engine for the sake of *one* stuck injector is a problem you'd never have with a Japanese vehicle. -- Regards, Noddy. >> You don't see them because they live in the garage. Remember that dude who >> bought one and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Then [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > 6. As per usual for here the facts have been so distorted and dramatised that > it's funny. I thought it was you but wasn't 100% sure. So what became of the piece of sh.t? I hope you burnt it so no other poor sap every had to experience one. Fraser >>> the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >>>> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Anyone who pays $61,000 for a Freelander is f.cking insane, that price is > nuts. I agree, considering the RRP for the Freelander 2 diesel is in fact, $51,990. >>>> the other is the fact Jeep had the sense to bring >>>>> out their first SUV in Turbo diesel form, something the others are [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I agree, considering the RRP for the Freelander 2 diesel is in fact, > $51,990. Another one who doesn't f.cking read the posts properly. http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/prices.php?key=LAND07CP&new=1 And then add $3,500+ "on roads" and you get over $61,000. DAVO > Of course you are right, but at over $61,000 for the comparable TD4 2.2 > HSE model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out of the > question of comparison. Not to mention the fact that being a Land Rover you wouldn't go anywhere near one unless you enjoy getting your fingers burnt. -- Regards, Noddy. >> Of course you are right, but at over $61,000 for the comparable TD4 >> 2.2 HSE model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out of >> the question of comparison. > > Not to mention the fact that being a Land Rover you wouldn't go > anywhere near one unless you enjoy getting your fingers burnt. And for god's sake don't take it offroad, or into anything difficult. Took hours to dig some guy's stupid Disco out of the Guthega carpark... it basically needed a hard, flat road before it could get out. Meanwhile my "toy" 4WD just jumped out of the same carpark, without any digging. Which was just as well as I'd had enough of that.  SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer >>> Of course you are right, but at over $61,000 for the comparable TD4 >>> 2.2 HSE model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > "toy" 4WD just jumped out of the same carpark, without any digging. Which > was just as well as I'd had enough of that. It must have had bald tyres and an incompetent driver or a major mechanical failure or all of the above, LR Discoveries are very competent off road. Not sure that I would want to own one but they are great to drive. Your little Vitara is so small if it got stuck you could just pick it up and carry it:-) Daryl >>>> Of course you are right, but at over $61,000 for the comparable TD4 >>>> 2.2 HSE model, making it almost $20,000 more expensive, it is out [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Your little Vitara is so small if it got stuck you could just pick it > up and carry it:-) It had the road tyres on that they seem to sell them with these days. Wide, too. Driver was undoubtedly a clown, buzzing and revving the wheels... when you're bumper-deep in anything, what idiot does that? So we dug him out, but when we had dug what we thought was enough, the top-heavy monster still struggled around. We had to dig it a little road back to the ploughed part. Vitey just sprang out of his spot, onto the snow. When you've been digging though, the minute you get into the car the whole thing fogs up, so that was annoying, driving with my head stuck out the side window. SignatureDon't try to reply to my email addy: I'm borrowing that of the latest scammer/spammer > Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. > What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual Turbo [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > dreaming about. (including Honda). > I will post my experience next week with an honest unbiased opinion. Thats actually quite funny, did you know Noddy hates diesels at least as much as he hates CRV's and I doubt that being a Jeep changes things much:-) 6lts/100klms is very impressive for a vehicle of that size and weight, its worth looking at it for that alone. Daryl The Compass is a rebadged Dodge Caliber, but costs nearly $10,000 more. Caliber 2.0D = $28,990, Compass 2.0D = $36,490! Fuel consumption is only 25% less than the petrol, and at $4,000 more than the petrol model, it would take you something like 6 years just to break even. I would look at the new Dodge Nitro instead - it's much better looking and costs only a little more at $36,990. > Why they never called this a FUGLY instead of a COMPASS is typical Jeep. > What an ugly looking piece of sh.t. Anyway, I'm taking the 6-sp manual [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > DAVO |
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