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My socket/ratchet set spent about an hour submerged in petrol...

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Diesel Damo - 27 Dec 2007 06:44 GMT
Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
sorts.

So, apart from having to let it dry and then peel melted yellow
plastic off everything, would this have done anything adverse to the
ball-bearing ratchet? Is there a subtle amount of grease or oil in
there that would now be gone?

The brand is Sidchrome, if that matters.
Noddy - 27 Dec 2007 07:07 GMT
"Diesel Damo" <Diesel_4WD@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> So, apart from having to let it dry and then peel melted yellow
> plastic off everything, would this have done anything adverse to the
> ball-bearing ratchet? Is there a subtle amount of grease or oil in
> there that would now be gone?

Not that I've ever seen.

It won't hurt anything, and I usually run my spanners, sockets and ratchets
through the parts cleaner (which uses a mixture of petrol, kero, shellite
and thinners as the cleaning solvent) every now and then after a
particularly dirty job to clean them.

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Diesel Damo - 27 Dec 2007 07:59 GMT
> "Diesel Damo" <Diesel_...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>
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> and thinners as the cleaning solvent) every now and then after a
> particularly dirty job to clean them.

My gut feel would be that everything's fine, I just thought it was
worth getting a second opinion. So thanks :-)
Paul Saccani - 27 Dec 2007 09:41 GMT
>Not that I've ever seen.
>
>It won't hurt anything, and I usually run my spanners, sockets and ratchets
>through the parts cleaner (which uses a mixture of petrol, kero, shellite
>and thinners as the cleaning solvent) every now and then after a
>particularly dirty job to clean them.

Beat me to it.. ;)

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Klompmeester - 27 Dec 2007 09:27 GMT
> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The brand is Sidchrome, if that matters.

I've done something similar and have taken the ratchet apart to put a bit of
grease back in the ratcheting cog since it's generally pretty easy to do.

I doubt it will make much difference to longevity unless you are finding the
action tighter then normal so it's not essential.
James - 27 Dec 2007 10:41 GMT
> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> The brand is Sidchrome, if that matters.

You're doing well....I managed to lose a 13mm socket and extension yesterday
through my own stupidity. Putting together a bloody basketball ring. The
mounting holes for the backboard are conveniently punched, tapped and then
the whole thing powder-coated. I couldn't find a tap the right size so
needless to say I lost my cool trying to hold everything in position and do
the f*&king bolts up. Upon thowing the ratchet and it hitting the ground,
the socket and extension departed from the ratchet as with an explosive
force and re-located to the next door neighbours vegie garden.

James
Rheilly Phoull - 27 Dec 2007 11:03 GMT
>> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
>> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> James

Never work on British machinery :-)

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James - 27 Dec 2007 11:07 GMT
>>> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
>>> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>
> Never work on British machinery :-)

I have in the past. I must admit I was perhaps a little more patient then
though.

James
atec77 - 27 Dec 2007 11:48 GMT
>>> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
>>> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>>
> Never work on British machinery :-)

Why not ?
 all my 40 y/o whitworth and af fit fine .
hippo - 28 Dec 2007 01:14 GMT
atec77 <atec77@hotmaul.com> Dec 27, 2007 at 09:48 PM


>> "James" <dotatdot@TtpPigG.com.au> wrote in message
> news:47738164@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> "Diesel Damo" <Diesel_4WD@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

news:f6ec4d26-56ad-4e71-880b-bde724b0911e@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Sort of a long story of which I still don't quite understand myself
>>>> yet. Something to do with a mower being filled and then a big spill of
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>> tapped and then the whole thing powder-coated. I couldn't find a tap the
>>> right size so needless to say I lost my cool trying to hold everything
in
>>> position and do the f*&king bolts up. Upon thowing the ratchet and it

>>> hitting the ground, the socket and extension departed from the ratchet
as
>>> with an explosive force and re-located to the next door neighbours vegie
>>> garden.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Why not ?
>  all my 40 y/o whitworth and af fit fine .

Fair nuff but I think comment referred to patience! Can you imagine him
doing an 1800 clutch or a 63 Mini bypass hose without being attacked by a
returning thrown spanner? Heartfelt sympathy, but I'm sitting here with
concussion from smacking my skull on one of the tiltadoor locks and it's
still bloody funny picturing it! Cheers  

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James - 28 Dec 2007 02:41 GMT
> atec77 <atec77@hotmaul.com> Dec 27, 2007 at 09:48 PM
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Funny you should mention that...I used to own an 1800 :)
The engine came out that many times that it just became routine, and as for
the clutch....thats not something i care to remember. On more than one
occasion the end of the spring on the bendix drive starter snapped off
lodging itself in the clutch and instantly f.cking it!

James
Noddy - 27 Dec 2007 12:53 GMT
> You're doing well....I managed to lose a 13mm socket and extension
> yesterday through my own stupidity. Putting together a bloody basketball
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> with an explosive force and re-located to the next door neighbours vegie
> garden.

I would have paid a few bucks to see that :)

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George W. Frost - 27 Dec 2007 13:16 GMT
>> You're doing well....I managed to lose a 13mm socket and extension
>> yesterday through my own stupidity. Putting together a bloody basketball
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Regards,
> Noddy.

I would have taken your few bucks, give you half then sat and watched it
with you
Noddy - 27 Dec 2007 20:20 GMT
> I would have taken your few bucks, give you half then sat and watched it
> with you

Lol :)

It's not nice to laugh at other people's frustration with ridiculous things
like James had to endure, but *Jeez* it can be f.cking entertaining :)

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Klompmeester - 27 Dec 2007 21:43 GMT
>> I would have taken your few bucks, give you half then sat and watched it
>> with you
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> things like James had to endure, but *Jeez* it can be f.cking entertaining
> :)

Years ago I was working with a Pom called "Mick" (to protect his identity)
who could fly off the handle at a whim with admittedly amazingly
entertaining results.

One time a bloke came in to book his car in for a service. As I was speaking
to said bloke and getting his details out of nowhere Mick jumps in and
starts laying into this bloke and they are belting eachother up in the
reception area. It turns out this bloke who had no idea Mick worked there
and had been involved in a minor neighbourhood dispute with Mick. Mick
didn't like him very much apparantly.

Another time Mick's 10 year old son came in after school and was waiting for
his Dad to finish work. His kid was free spinning a front wheel on a car on
a hoist to see how fast he could get it to spin and was asked not to do that
by Mick. A few minutes later there was a loud yelp as his kid had managed to
get his finger caught between the backing plate and the wheel because he
hadn't listened when he was asked to stop. As it turns out there was some
blood but the cut was only minor and he was lucky but the kid was visibly
upset.

Mick says nothing and starts lowering the car, then when almost down picks
up a hammer and starts belting the f.ck out of the front guard on this
customers Valiant. Bad car, don't do it again...

Another time...

Some poor old bugger retired with not much to do used to come in all the
time for free advice. Friendly enough bloke but obviously took on things
that were beyond his skillset and he didn't have the ability to carry out.
Admittedly it got a bit old after a while because he started demanding that
we help him out so Mick said he would "fix" him next time.

As the old bugger rocked up in his van as usual and walked to the reception
area, Mick grabbed a tub of grease and smeared the contents all over the
windscreen of this his van. He never came back after that.

Having Mick around could be a little hazardous too though...

One day I was working under a car on stands when I heard a loud bang behind
my head. I looked back and I saw a big yellow handled screwdriver handle
sticking out of a 20L drum which was placed just behind my head. Evidently
Mick got a bit frustrated and had flung his screwdriver in a random
direction.

And Mick on customer relations...

A very regular customer, Karl, came in to pick his car up and was walking
through the carpark where we happened to be pushing a car into the workshop.
This regular walked on by headed towards reception and Mick let rip with
"Why aren't you helping us push?". Karl replies with "I have had several
heart attacks, major heart surgery and would love to be in a position where
he could help push but it would probably kill me." to which Mick replied
"You're just f.cking lazy you Dutch c.nt" or words to that effect.

Karl didn't react, kept walking and paid his bill as usual. Ofcourse I
apoligised and I assured him that it wouldn't happen again, but he just said
"some people..."
Karl died on his morning walk about two months later from heart failure and
I made sure the fired over that incident Mick knew too...
Noddy - 27 Dec 2007 21:58 GMT
> Karl didn't react, kept walking and paid his bill as usual. Ofcourse I
> apoligised and I assured him that it wouldn't happen again, but he just
> said "some people..."
> Karl died on his morning walk about two months later from heart failure
> and I made sure the fired over that incident Mick knew too...

Sounds like the kind of bloke you could happily smack in the head with a
cricket bat until it looked like squashed water melon.

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Klompmeester - 28 Dec 2007 08:52 GMT
>> Karl didn't react, kept walking and paid his bill as usual. Ofcourse I
>> apoligised and I assured him that it wouldn't happen again, but he just
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Sounds like the kind of bloke you could happily smack in the head with a
> cricket bat until it looked like squashed water melon.

He could be funny and good spirited when in the mood but that didn't make up
for all the times he was a genuine c.nt.
Albm&ctd - 30 Dec 2007 03:58 GMT
> He could be funny and good spirited when in the mood but that didn't make up
> for all the times he was a genuine c.nt.

Maybe the petrol fumes were getting to him.

Al
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LSx-Australia - 27 Dec 2007 21:55 GMT
> It's not nice to laugh at other people's frustration with ridiculous
> things like James had to endure, but *Jeez* it can be f.cking
> entertaining :)

The mrs just has to watch me in the garage and she gets her kicks.
Deck chair and all.

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James - 28 Dec 2007 02:45 GMT
>> I would have taken your few bucks, give you half then sat and watched it
>> with you
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Well you'll all be pleased to know the thing is finished now. It took the
afternoon off work because it was quiet. Went and bought the right tap,
tapped out the powdercoating and had it put together using only two hands in
about 15mins. The socket and extension is still missing in action :)

James
Noddy - 28 Dec 2007 04:31 GMT
> Well you'll all be pleased to know the thing is finished now. It took the
> afternoon off work because it was quiet. Went and bought the right tap,
> tapped out the powdercoating and had it put together using only two hands
> in about 15mins. The socket and extension is still missing in action :)

They might turn up in a prisoner of war camp some time in the future :)

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Noddy.
Athol - 29 Dec 2007 02:20 GMT
> Well you'll all be pleased to know the thing is finished now. It took the
> afternoon off work because it was quiet. Went and bought the right tap,
> tapped out the powdercoating and had it put together using only two hands in
> about 15mins. The socket and extension is still missing in action :)

I've got a small job that I was going to do yesterday.  I set up an old
pentium 3 box with an outdoor security video camera so that I can have the
camera mounted on the front of my garage pointing up the driveway because
my relocated office doesn't have view of the drive...  Network computer
then streams the video to whichever computer I want to watch it on (in the
house or office).

Thursday, I popped the lid on the (borrowed) computer, wrote a list of all
the parts fitted when I got it, changed it around to install more memory,
a video capture card and a new network card, installed the software
(slackware 12 and mplayer), tested it all in the office and decided that I
would install it on Friday.

First, I need to clear some space on a couple of hammerlok shelving units
in the garage for the PC, monitor and UPS...

So the stuff on the shelves has to go somewhere else.

Time to find some space in the back garden shed.  Except that the grass
between the garage and shed is between knee and waist height...

So, spend a couple of hours with the line trimmer and a bit more time
with the rake.  Finally open up the shed...

Of course, there's no space to just chuck the stuff in.  I need to
seriously rearrange the back shed and get at least one, preferrably 3 or
more extra sets of hammerlock shelving...

After a few hours of cleaning up, I've got enough space to install one
more set of shelving.  Jump in the car and drive to Bunnings.  They don't
have any f.ck*ng shelving and it's after 7pm.

So I spent some time cleaning around the valving on the big LPG tank that
I bought the other week.  Not only can I not find any sign of the tank
being re-stamped (it's supposed to have been done 4 years ago), but the
date stamp on the relief valve (it should have been replaced at re-test)
appears to be original for the tank!  Not happy.

Saturday morning.  Ring around hardware shops.  I end up buying 3 sets of
shelving at a different Bunnings.  While I'm there, I pop in to JB Hifi
and grab a couple of new micro-stereo units.  Install one in the office.
Yay, now I have a radio in the office.  :-p

So now it's after 1pm Saturday.  I've gotta go and assemble at least one
hammerlok shelving unit in the shed and shift some stuff from the garage
to even think about starting on setting up the computer in the garage.

Of course, if I do it that way, I'll snooker myself and not have space to
further rearrange the shed, so I'm going to have to assemble one shelving
unit, rearrange a lot of the shed then assemble a 2nd shelving unit
before I move the stuff out of the garage...

Gotta go to the inlaws' place for dinner tonight.  That means I've only
got about 4 hours more today.

I figure that I'll get the computer set up in about a weeks time...

Aren't holidays great?  :-p

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Feral Al - 29 Dec 2007 02:26 GMT
> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

Sounds like an excellent time for a shed/garage/office/house
sale. What ya got?

:-)

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Athol - 29 Dec 2007 02:43 GMT
>> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

> Sounds like an excellent time for a shed/garage/office/house
> sale. What ya got?

> :-)

Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
glass is untinted (clear) and the other three are "antisun" tint,
which is a subtle green colour.  The antisun is rarer, as it was
an option (included with A/C option to reduce workload of A/C).

Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

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Feral Al - 29 Dec 2007 02:49 GMT
> Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
> windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
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>
> Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

Seemed you had more sh.t than that, from your ramblings.

Oh, I know: "I might just need that one day".

:-P

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Athol - 29 Dec 2007 12:46 GMT
>> Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
>> windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
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>>
>> Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

> Seemed you had more sh.t than that, from your ramblings.

I've got *way* more sh.t than just that.  That just happens to be a
bulky box that I had to move twice today.  Remove, rearrange shelves
then put back.  The shelf that it came off was 900mm high.  The one
that it went back onto was 1.8m high...  My back isn't happy right
now!

> Oh, I know: "I might just need that one day".

This one is more a case of "maybe if I break it I'll be able to get
rid of it because I won't get rid of it while it's intact!"

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Feral Al - 29 Dec 2007 19:30 GMT
> This one is more a case of "maybe if I break it I'll be able to get
> rid of it because I won't get rid of it while it's intact!"

For just a sec, I thought you meant, your back. ;-)

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Diesel Damo - 29 Dec 2007 06:01 GMT
> Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
> windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
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>
> Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

I don't suppose you have the doors to go with it?

I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
The driver side is unlocked, the window is up, but when I went to open
it the handle snapped off.

The interior handle is a lever type that you lift up (the same action
as a handbrake), but it's only once you get the handle past the 12
o'clock position that it actually opens the door, so all sorts of
tricks with wires and loops doesn't work.

In short I need a new door so I can smash the window of the current
door to get it open.
Kwyjibo - 29 Dec 2007 07:25 GMT
> I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
> is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> o'clock position that it actually opens the door, so all sorts of
> tricks with wires and loops doesn't work.

> In short I need a new door so I can smash the window of the current
> door to get it open.

Can't you use the old coat hanger/platic strap trick on the *passenger* door
lock to unlock it? Alternatively, if your window mechanism is a bit worn,
try forcing a window down with your hands.

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Diesel Damo - 29 Dec 2007 07:28 GMT
> > I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
> > is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Can't you use the old coat hanger/platic strap trick on
> the *passenger* door lock to unlock it?

Sorry, should have mentioned that the exterior handle on the passenger
door is also fecked.

> Alternatively, if your window mechanism is a bit worn,
> try forcing a window down with your hands.

Tried and failed :-(
Kwyjibo - 29 Dec 2007 07:39 GMT
On Dec 29, 6:25 pm, "Kwyjibo" <kwyj...@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
> "Diesel Damo" <Diesel_...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> Can't you use the old coat hanger/platic strap trick on
>> the *passenger* door lock to unlock it?

> Sorry, should have mentioned that the exterior handle on the passenger
> door is also fecked.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tried and failed :-(

Pop the rear window out (in??). Been a long time since I worked on a HQ ute,
but don't they have the molding that presses into the centre of the window
rubber to keep it in place? Pull the molding out and you should be able to
push the window into the cab.

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Diesel Damo - 29 Dec 2007 08:02 GMT
> On Dec 29, 6:25 pm, "Kwyjibo" <kwyj...@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
>
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> rubber to keep it in place? Pull the molding out and you should be able to
> push the window into the cab.

Interesting. I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Thanks.
Andy - 29 Dec 2007 09:53 GMT
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<13cea6cf-1450-4c1a-8aa6-c3ee39a00e76@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

> > > I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
> > > is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
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> Sorry, should have mentioned that the exterior handle on the passenger
> door is also fecked.

f.cking hell, are you sure it isn't a Falcon? :-)

Andy.
Paul Saccani - 31 Dec 2007 06:22 GMT
>> > I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
>> > is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
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>
>Tried and failed :-(

Try using the flat steel with hooks from a standard lock out kit, or
cut hooks into a 1 m steel rule.  Use that to push the door handle rod
down.  If you can get the window seal off, you might be able to deal
with it using something to hand.
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Noddy - 31 Dec 2007 08:42 GMT
> Try using the flat steel with hooks from a standard lock out kit, or
> cut hooks into a 1 m steel rule.  Use that to push the door handle rod
> down.  If you can get the window seal off, you might be able to deal
> with it using something to hand.

Try making one of these:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/100_3396.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/dasgib/100_3398.jpg

About a metre long, and made from one inch wide strapping steel that
transport companies use to secure goods. Very thin and fairly flexible, and
I haven't come across anything yet that I can't open with it.

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Feral Al - 31 Dec 2007 08:47 GMT
> About a metre long, and made from one inch wide strapping steel that
> transport companies use to secure goods. Very thin and fairly flexible, and
> I haven't come across anything yet that I can't open with it.

Straight from a Popeye cartoon. :-P

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Diesel Damo - 31 Dec 2007 09:08 GMT
> > Try using the flat steel with hooks from a standard lock out kit, or
> > cut hooks into a 1 m steel rule.  Use that to push the door handle rod
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> transport companies use to secure goods. Very thin and fairly flexible, and
> I haven't come across anything yet that I can't open with it.

Looks like a VERY handy tool indeed.

I still haven't gotten around to dealing with the ute yet as I'm too
busy making changes to the kitchen. Fkn "holidays". Ironically there
were a few times today when I felt like throwing a brick through a
window ;-)
atec77 - 31 Dec 2007 09:23 GMT
>>> Try using the flat steel with hooks from a standard lock out kit, or
>>> cut hooks into a 1 m steel rule.  Use that to push the door handle rod
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> were a few times today when I felt like throwing a brick through a
> window ;-)
So far in the last couple of days I have rebuilt several hard drives
owned by equally silly small biz people . Neither had backed up for
months..

 drunk a lot of hard whisky  , did some plonk mixing this morning and
discovered home made Quantro and Chocolate and Orange plonk mixed with a
little lemonaide tends to get all the female visitors really pissed :)

 far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later but
frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P
 Oh and youse can all get fugged
Andy - 31 Dec 2007 16:21 GMT
>   far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later but
> frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P

OK.  That explains all the spelling errors and typos then.

Oh, wait....

;-P

Andy.
atec77 - 31 Dec 2007 20:34 GMT
>>   far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later but
>> frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P
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>
> Andy.
Or simply not giving a shite .
John McKenzie - 01 Jan 2008 00:01 GMT
> >   far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later but
> > frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P
>
> OK.  That explains all the spelling errors and typos then.

actually I found it one of his most easily decipherable posts. Maybe
he's like 'bender' from Futurama, that only fucntions well on the sauce.

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atec77 - 01 Jan 2008 00:58 GMT
>>>   far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later but
>>> frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P
>> OK.  That explains all the spelling errors and typos then.
>
> actually I found it one of his most easily decipherable posts. Maybe
> he's like 'bender' from Futurama, that only fucntions well on the sauce.

I guess if I could function in a normal day with a dozen rye's under the
belt , but I doubt it

 New years day and another business just rang in a panic.. hardware
failure again
 I lurv triple time .

 might go and look at it after lunch ( lamb roast BBAAAAA)
ant - 01 Jan 2008 00:24 GMT
>>   far better than nuvo cardboard . I am supposed to go party later
>> but frankly  I am just plain hammered and need a nap :P
>
> OK.  That explains all the spelling errors and typos then.

What, he's at the cask every day then?!

> Oh, wait....

Yeah.

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Noddy - 31 Dec 2007 11:00 GMT
"Diesel Damo" <Diesel_4WD@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Looks like a VERY handy tool indeed.

It is.

I made it years ago as I was forever having cars with alarms lock themselves
while I was working on them. A mate who was a locksmith traced a pattern on
a piece of paper for me from his "professional" one.

> I still haven't gotten around to dealing with the ute yet as I'm too
> busy making changes to the kitchen. Fkn "holidays". Ironically there
> were a few times today when I felt like throwing a brick through a
> window ;-)

I know that feeling well :)

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Paul Saccani - 01 Jan 2008 06:23 GMT
>> Try using the flat steel with hooks from a standard lock out kit, or
>> cut hooks into a 1 m steel rule.  Use that to push the door handle rod
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>transport companies use to secure goods. Very thin and fairly flexible, and
>I haven't come across anything yet that I can't open with it.

Nice piece of work there, Noddy.  
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Noddy - 01 Jan 2008 08:52 GMT
> Nice piece of work there, Noddy.

I can't take the credit for it.

A locksmith mate traced the pattern of his tool onto a piece of paper for me
and I just cut it into a bit of old strapping that was on a pallet of crap I
bought years ago. His tool was made of stainless, and while I can't remember
exactly how much it cost him to buy I know it was ridiculously expensive (as
most professional locksmith tools seem to be).

The local 2 dollar shop was selling similar things a couple of years ago for
(you guessed it) 2 bucks each, and they were packaged as "emergency vehicle
entry tools".

I bought one before they mysteriously disappeared off the shelves, but have
never used it.

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Athol - 29 Dec 2007 12:49 GMT
>> Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
>> windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
>> glass is untinted (clear) and the other three are "antisun" tint,
>> which is a subtle green colour.  The antisun is rarer, as it was
>> an option (included with A/C option to reduce workload of A/C).

>> Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

> I don't suppose you have the doors to go with it?

Err.  You want monaro doors?  You want rocking horse sh.t with that?  :-)

> I've got a bit of a situation with the HQ ute. The passenger side door
> is locked with the window up and the key doesn't work in that lock.
> The driver side is unlocked, the window is up, but when I went to open
> it the handle snapped off.

> The interior handle is a lever type that you lift up (the same action
> as a handbrake), but it's only once you get the handle past the 12
> o'clock position that it actually opens the door, so all sorts of
> tricks with wires and loops doesn't work.

> In short I need a new door so I can smash the window of the current
> door to get it open.

Urk.  Umm.  It's a 1-tonner, isn't it?  Peel the rear window out of its
seal, get in then reinstall the rear window.  Or break and replace the
rear window.  It's less work than changing a door window!

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Patrick - 02 Jan 2008 04:02 GMT
>> Well, one thing that I could do with unloading is a set of side
>> windows for an HQ-HX Monaro coupe.  Unfortunately, the left door
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> In short I need a new door so I can smash the window of the current
> door to get it open.

I had no problem unlocking a HQ from the outside without a key. You just
slide in something past the rubber window seal and poke around near the
lock until it clicks.

Anyone who has had the lock apart previously would know exactly where to
poke.
Noddy - 02 Jan 2008 04:42 GMT
"Patrick" <doctorpat@spiced-luncheon-meat-bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> I had no problem unlocking a HQ from the outside without a key. You just
> slide in something past the rubber window seal and poke around near the
> lock until it clicks.

Easiest trick in the world to unlocking a car with the old round lock
buttons like a HQ is to use a length of flat plastic strapping material.

Get a 2 foot long bit of that plastic strapping material that people use to
wrap packages, and fold it in half ensuring you put a nice sold crease in
the fold. Push the folded end in between the doorseal and the body, and once
in manipulate the two lengths sticking out to open the "loop" where you made
the fold. Wiggle the loop over the lock button and pull the loop tight
around it, and then lift the button up and you're done.

Takes less than ten seconds.

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Andy - 02 Jan 2008 06:48 GMT
> I had no problem unlocking a HQ from the outside without a key. You just
> slide in something past the rubber window seal and poke around near the
> lock until it clicks.
>
> Anyone who has had the lock apart previously would know exactly where to
> poke.

Hell, most HQs have such knackered locks that they just require a
'key-like-object' and a bit of wiggling :-)

Andy.
Noddy - 29 Dec 2007 10:12 GMT
> Unfortunately, not being a matched set f.cks the value entirely.

Whip them down to your local tinter and get the lot covered in film. With
the glass out of the car it'll cost f.ck nothing, and no potential buyer
will ever know the difference :)

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the_dawggie - 29 Dec 2007 06:03 GMT
> So, spend a couple of hours with the line trimmer and a bit more time
> with the rake.  Finally open up the shed...

Farm needs some serious lin timming.

> After a few hours of cleaning up, I've got enough space to install one
> more set of shelving.  Jump in the car and drive to Bunnings.  They don't
> have any f.ck*ng shelving and it's after 7pm.

Alex bought some good stuff from them. They have small units easy
to assemble.

> Saturday morning.  Ring around hardware shops.  I end up buying 3 sets of
> shelving at a different Bunnings.  While I'm there, I pop in to JB Hifi
> and grab a couple of new micro-stereo units.  Install one in the office.
> Yay, now I have a radio in the office.  :-p

Yay you :-)

> Of course, if I do it that way, I'll snooker myself and not have space to
> further rearrange the shed, so I'm going to have to assemble one shelving
> unit, rearrange a lot of the shed then assemble a 2nd shelving unit
> before I move the stuff out of the garage...

Blech.

> Gotta go to the inlaws' place for dinner tonight.  That means I've only
> got about 4 hours more today.

Blech.

> I figure that I'll get the computer set up in about a weeks time...
>
> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

Undecided.

I want to go down to the pool this arvo. Weather has
turned nasty.

1,100 km drive tomorrow I'm not looking forward to being a part
of. Stormy now on Gold Coast.
Noddy - 29 Dec 2007 10:10 GMT
> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

They are :)

Mind you, I'd rather be doing what you're doing than knocking down bricks
and shovelling dirt like I was in 46 degree heat today.

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Albm&ctd - 30 Dec 2007 04:38 GMT
> > Aren't holidays great?  :-p
>
> They are :)
>
> Mind you, I'd rather be doing what you're doing than knocking down bricks
> and shovelling dirt like I was in 46 degree heat today.

Locked out of Toytown again?

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the_dawggie - 31 Dec 2007 00:42 GMT
>> Well you'll all be pleased to know the thing is finished now. It took the
>> afternoon off work because it was quiet. Went and bought the right tap,
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

I've been on holidays for the last 6 months :-)

As from this morning doing the remote-post thing again from
the farm.

Fecking forgot the solar panel. Have to use the 'lux to
charge water pump batteries, recharge cell 'phone, and
laptop. Good thing diesel engines don't use much fuel
at idle :-)

12V -> 240V invertors are not that efficient, though :-(

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And I have to go back to work next monday :-(
Athol - 31 Dec 2007 06:40 GMT
>> I figure that I'll get the computer set up in about a weeks time...

Amazingly, I managed to get it done late yesterday.

Still lots of other sh.t to be done around the place, and somehow we
have to go to the inlaws' place again tonight, so another evening
stuffed...

>> Aren't holidays great?  :-p

> I've been on holidays for the last 6 months :-)

That's one way to describe it.

> Fecking forgot the solar panel. Have to use the 'lux to
> charge water pump batteries, recharge cell 'phone, and
> laptop. Good thing diesel engines don't use much fuel
> at idle :-)

> 12V -> 240V invertors are not that efficient, though :-(

Forgot the generator as well?

> And I have to go back to work next monday :-(

So which day are you dropping in to collect the nokia bits?

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the_dawggie - 31 Dec 2007 10:37 GMT
>>> I figure that I'll get the computer set up in about a weeks time...
>
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>
> That's one way to describe it.

It was required. I just got so sick of it, it was
causing me very real problems. I Don't know what will
happen when I go back.

>> Fecking forgot the solar panel. Have to use the 'lux to
>> charge water pump batteries, recharge cell 'phone, and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Forgot the generator as well?

Alex gave it to next door neighbour, Harry, as he owed him
for some work he did. It's not really required. As you saw,
noisy thing that chews fuel, and only required to run 3 globes
and a TV or stereo. It also needs some work - took to overrevving
on start up. Not good. Took out one of the compact flouros and
an old sh.t box TV.

I think today I have sorted how to do things. One battery in the
shed for 12 V lights (not tryed the 240V ones on the inverter
yet). One for the water pump (that would be best on the solar
panel though). T'other battery fine in the shed for the 12V
flouros.

Both though can be easily charged by letting the 'lux just
idle away with jumper leads to the battery to be charged.

>> And I have to go back to work next monday :-(

> So which day are you dropping in to collect the nokia bits?

I might ask you to post them. I'll be leaving here Saturday or
Sunday. The distance is over 700 km in total any way I take it.
I'd like to drop in and vist, however think I may have to make
it a separate visit (which I suspect would result in a shorter
and faster driving distance on the expressway from Shiteney).
Dividing Range thing is totally in the way :-(

Could do something for the Australia day long weekend, or
another weekend as have to go to Galston to pick up my
dirt bike at some point soon.
Athol - 31 Dec 2007 11:46 GMT
>> So which day are you dropping in to collect the nokia bits?

> I might ask you to post them. I'll be leaving here Saturday or
> Sunday. The distance is over 700 km in total any way I take it.
> I'd like to drop in and vist, however think I may have to make
> it a separate visit (which I suspect would result in a shorter
> and faster driving distance on the expressway from Shiteney).
> Dividing Range thing is totally in the way :-(

Well, you could leave there Saturday, go out for dinner in Newcastle
on Saturday night, sleep on the futon in the side room Saturday
night (the mattress has been replaced with a better one recently)
and drive back to Sydney on Sunday.  I don't remember if our new
bathroom was done last time you were here.

I can assure you that the run along the Bylong Valley Way will make
you not want to do Bell's Line ever again.  :-)

> Could do something for the Australia day long weekend, or
> another weekend as have to go to Galston to pick up my
> dirt bike at some point soon.

I'll be in Canberra from Friday through Monday of the Australia day
weekend.

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