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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / January 2008

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Radiator core cooling fins rotted-out

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Jason James - 09 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT
They say this is due to electrolysis which occurs due to constant
re-circulation of coolant by the pump. The voltage then circulates thru the
tank and core causing destruction of the emitter or -ve electrode. Large
areas of the rear side of the core had cooling-fin destruction. They just
fell out like dirt.

I had seen a Falcon radiator do this, only worse. That vehicle was stationed
at a light house. Probably direct corrosian due the salty air.

Jason
Daryl Walford - 10 Jan 2008 01:36 GMT
> They say this is due to electrolysis which occurs due to constant
> re-circulation of coolant by the pump. The voltage then circulates thru the
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> I had seen a Falcon radiator do this, only worse. That vehicle was stationed
> at a light house. Probably direct corrosian due the salty air.

Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
"expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
changed jobs.

Daryl
Noddy - 10 Jan 2008 01:56 GMT
> Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
> "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
> changed jobs.

It generally does.

You can test for electrolysis by measuring voltage in the coolant with a
multi-meter. Earth the ground probe and stick the positive probe into the
coolant in the radiator. If you get a positive voltage reading, you should
earth the radiator.

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Regards,
Noddy.
Scotty - 10 Jan 2008 02:33 GMT
>> Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
>> "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Unless its very clean distilled water. The water needs to have some form of
impurity to conduct electricity well. Salts good for adding but kinda
defeats the exersise somewhat.  ;o)
Noddy - 10 Jan 2008 03:10 GMT
> Unless its very clean distilled water. The water needs to have some form
> of impurity to conduct electricity well. Salts good for adding but kinda
> defeats the exersise somewhat.  ;o)

You'd go a long way to finding non conductive fluid in your average car's
cooling system :)

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Regards,
Noddy.
Scotty - 10 Jan 2008 05:38 GMT
>> Unless its very clean distilled water. The water needs to have some form
>> of impurity to conduct electricity well. Salts good for adding but kinda
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> Regards,
> Noddy.

I only post that as my old next door neighbour used to flush every last
morsel out of the system and fill with distilled water, dunno why, siolly
old buggar never ran coolant either, mond you he was only driving an old 1.0
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Jason James - 10 Jan 2008 05:22 GMT
> >> Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
> >> "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> impurity to conduct electricity well. Salts good for adding but kinda
> defeats the exersise somewhat.  ;o)

This rad came outa the Camry which has been a coutry car. I was shocked to
see the hidden damage. Only became apparent after removing it due a split
top-tank (plastic).
While previous owner's maint is a mystery, its only had proper coolant last
4 years.
Jason
Albm&ctd - 10 Jan 2008 04:20 GMT
> > Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
> > "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> coolant in the radiator. If you get a positive voltage reading, you should
> earth the radiator.

Electrolysis? He was talking about cooling fin corrosion, common in
coastal areas.

Al
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Jason James - 10 Jan 2008 05:16 GMT
> > > Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and some
> > > "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it worked as I
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> Electrolysis? He was talking about cooling fin corrosion, common in
> coastal areas.

I meant both. The Camry has been country and the Falcon was coastal.

Jason
Albm&ctd - 10 Jan 2008 05:55 GMT
> I meant both.

thaddedbefukkenright

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Noddy - 10 Jan 2008 05:39 GMT
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> Electrolysis? He was talking about cooling fin corrosion, common in
> coastal areas.

Common all over the place. Especially if you radiator's got an A/C condenser
stuck in front of it.

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Noddy.
Toby Ponsenby - 10 Jan 2008 09:59 GMT
>> > Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and
>> > some "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it
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>
> Al

Which reminds me - as told to me by a Fraser Island frequent visitor.
"Cure" appears to be to spray neat diesel on the thing while it's
relatively new.
Apparently the film remaining is enough to defeat the problem - whether
the fins are copper or aluminium doesn't seem to matter.
Suggest calibrating oil if the smell of diesel is a bother:-)

I wasn't told whether whether doing that later in the devices life is
successful, 'cause I didn't ask,I guess.


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Klompmeester - 10 Jan 2008 19:45 GMT
>>> > Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and
>>> > some "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it
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> I wasn't told whether whether doing that later in the devices life is
> successful, 'cause I didn't ask,I guess.

Ofcourse thermal cycling will ultimately take it's toll regardless on those
cores.
Albm&ctd - 11 Jan 2008 02:59 GMT
> >> > Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and
> >> > some "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it
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> successful, 'cause I didn't ask,I guess.
>  
The Nivas radiator is pretty good in that respect, but then I've followed
a few smoking GC magnas along the foreshore roads.  
Not allowed on the beach with your private 4WD here unlike further North.
Not allowed to even wash it with town water and hose off salt spray.
Imagine that still holds true with our overflowing local dam.
We thought it was bad in Communist countries?

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Patrick - 11 Jan 2008 06:05 GMT
>>>>> Isuzu truck I used to drive suffered cooling system corrosion and
>>>>> some "expert" suggested earthing the radiator, I don't know if it
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>
> Al

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"Droughts and floods at the same time" he said, and people said he was
going mad. Well who's laughing now???   Not the Qld'ers who are
forbidden to hose floodwater off their cars because of the drought.
 
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