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I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The current petrol 4 cyl is less than expected and has more that a couple of problems. Doing well for 1960 model, I have to admit. A quick check with the tape measure comes up plausible. Anyone done? Yes, there are a lot of things to consider doing this, however looks doable. > I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, there are a lot of things to consider doing this, however > looks doable. Common conversion is the old holden 6 but an easy one is the holden v6. and of course several of the medium sized jap v6's which cost more. Anything is possible! What are those 2l-t's in the surfs like? Any good? Do many miles? Considering buying one but not sure if it'll have the balls i desire. I'm used of driving a 2.2L petrol 4runner so overtaking can be quite a challenge, i don't want to spend $10k on a car and have the same kind of problems!! Thanks >I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, there are a lot of things to consider doing this, however > looks doable. "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4267aa14-dddc-4b9f-8f65- > Anyone done? No. > Yes, there are a lot of things to consider doing this, however > looks doable. Maybe, but why would you *want* to? Why wouldn't you just either stick with the Smurf, or dump the mechanicals into an old Hilux ute? Either way you'd have a *much* better vehicle. Old Landys don't just have terrible mechanicals. Everything about them is rotten to the core :) -- Regards, Noddy. > "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Old Landys don't just have terrible mechanicals. Everything about them is > rotten to the core :) I know this, and will be the person doing the rewiring (like I did on his other Landrover) unless I can get out of it. This one is quite impressive. On the firewall junction box is a cable held connected with a wooden clothes peg. I'm not sure I've seen that before, or want to know, or at this point in time know what it does. The mate has a spare 2L-T and his Smurf has not shat itself yet, however he needed a pickup, so bought the Landie. The 2.25 litre in it is kinda um, and broken in a subtle way in that it leakes coolant into the rear spark plug hole. This causes the obvious condition the the rear spark plug goes to around 30K ohms once the water gets into it. It no longer works. He loves his Smurf and wants the spare engine he has into the Landie. Will have to get tranny/xfer which should be fairly cheap. It kinda weird the diff on the front axle would line up with the 'lux stuff, might need some drive shaft engineering, however I'm thinking doable. > I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The > current petrol 4 cyl is less than expected and has more > that a couple of problems. Doing well for 1960 model, > I have to admit. A quick check with the tape measure > comes up plausible. Did you also measure across the spring saddles to compare the mounts on the diffs? If you're going to make a landrover slower by fitting a diesel slug, you may as well fit the matching diffs and brakes. That way, when someone subsequently fits a commode V6 using the kit intended for a hilux, the diffs and brakes are up to the job... :-)  SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > > I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Did you also measure across the spring saddles to compare the mounts > on the diffs? Yes. > If you're going to make a landrover slower by fitting a diesel slug, > you may as well fit the matching diffs and brakes. The 2L-T kinda is a slug, however it's better than the "2 and a quarter" litre petrol sh.tter currently in there. > That way, when someone subsequently fits a commode V6 using the kit > intended for a hilux, the diffs and brakes are up to the job... :-) I'm not intending to fit a Commode V6 to anything, neither is Alex, who bought said vehicle. The way the front live axle from factory looks close to an older Hilux. Meybe close enough. >> I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's >> tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > That way, when someone subsequently fits a commode V6 using the kit > intended for a hilux, the diffs and brakes are up to the job... :-) The 2L-T has about 200 hp more than the Landy 4 cyl petrol(then again so does a whipper snipper engine) it will be a lot quicker than it ever was and it will be no slower than putting a red six into it, but use about half as much fuel doing it the only thing to watch with the 2L-T is the cooling. over heating them does the heads no good(as with any 2L or 2L-T) not sure about the diff ratios though it's be revving over 3000rpm at 90(even with the 5 speed) which is almost past the power band of the 2L-T(2400-3200rpm) fitting taller tyres should fix that though but the best option is to leave the Surf engine in the surf and sell the landy to the metal merchants, the ally in it would be worth more as scrap than the whole car Kev > >> I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > >> tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > landy to the metal merchants, the ally in it would be worth more as > scrap than the whole car The Smurf is working and staying intact as his daily driver, although first gear slips out under load. He collects stuff though including two L/Rovers and a spare 2L-T (which, yep, needs a new head). I think the Landy would be best to go as scrap, however the 2L-T looks like it might be an interesting thing to fit in it. Smurf stuff is cheap, so a tranny and transfer for the spare 2L-T could be got. > The Smurf is working and staying intact as his daily > driver, although first gear slips out under load. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Smurf stuff is cheap, so a tranny and transfer for the > spare 2L-T could be got. One thing to be aware of the Surf 2L-T had two different versions the change over was around mid 1985 the early engines used the 2L head and those after used the 3L head and they are not interchangeable my engine sitting out the back waiting for a place to work is the early model so make sure you check it out first Kev >I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, there are a lot of things to consider doing this, however > looks doable. Just about anything can be shoe horned into a Landrover, I seen a Ford 351 in one. Just remember to replace the diffs fron and read with MQ patrol units because they were only just strong enough for factory motor output and you're going to want brakes. :) The factory diffs are 4.7:1 so you'd lose some top speed as well. You must be a Landrover nut or at least have all the bits for free to even consider this :) > >I could get a ToyCo Smurf 2L-T diesel with it's > > tranny/xfer into a Series 2 Landrover 4x4 pickup. The [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > You must be a Landrover nut or at least have all the bits for free to even > consider this :) I'm not a L/R nut, my friend likes his Smurf however wants this done. Looks doable. My take on it is the diffs will need looked at. Brakes, yes. He knows places of Smurf and L/R bits. "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e28c349c-46d5-4f2b-a5c5- > I'm not a L/R nut, my friend likes his Smurf however > wants this done. Looks doable. My take on it is the diffs > will need looked at. Brakes, yes. He knows places of Smurf > and L/R bits. Diff, brakes, steering, wiring, seats, instruments, heating/cooling, wipers, lights. Not much of the Landy left worth worrying about if you change all of that sh.t :) -- Regards, Noddy. >> I'm not a L/R nut, my friend likes his Smurf however >> wants this done. Looks doable. My take on it is the diffs >> will need looked at. Brakes, yes. He knows places of Smurf >> and L/R bits. > Diff, brakes, steering, wiring, seats, instruments, heating/cooling, wipers, > lights. > Not much of the Landy left worth worrying about if you change all of that > sh.t :) Technically, there is a make/model and year model. That can be quite significant when it comes to modifying vehicles. Of course, putting in a little stinker makes that point irrelevant. May as well just stick the whole lot in a boring hilux. :-) SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > Technically, there is a make/model and year model. That can be quite > significant when it comes to modifying vehicles. Of course, putting in > a little stinker makes that point irrelevant. May as well just stick > the whole lot in a boring hilux. :-) Save a shitload of work, and still wouldn't be as ugly. Well, not quite anyway :) -- Regards, Noddy. > >> I'm not a L/R nut, my friend likes his Smurf however > >> wants this done. Looks doable. My take on it is the diffs [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a little stinker makes that point irrelevant. May as well just stick > the whole lot in a boring hilux. :-) Neither him nor me are willing to go near SI engines (of any fuel type, and especially not petrol). Been there, done that, and I quite honestly can say I don't know why folk put up with them. The increase of availability of diesel vehicles on the new car market says a lot about that. His larger Landy he has a Isuzu diesel sitting on a hoist for. That will replace the 3.5 petrol V8 sh.tter. This smaller Landy he has the 2L-T for. That will replace the 2.25 litre petrol 4 cylinder sh.tter. Now ... time to getting a round tuit. Not that I'm into Landies in any way. He meybe needs looked at over that.... And they smell - the interior of all of them have the same smell. It's not good or bad, but still smells. "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8fb58d12-de85-4c1d-b5d5- > Neither him nor me are willing to go near SI engines (of any > fuel type, and especially not petrol). Been there, done that, and > I quite honestly can say I don't know why folk put up with them. So you keep telling us, and as we keep telling you because they work, and work *well* :) > The increase of availability of diesel vehicles on the new car > market says a lot about that. The increase in diesel engines in the new car market has absolutely f.ck nothing to do with the type of engine itself, but the desire for better fuel economy which, incidentally, a lot of is "false" economy. The number of small petrol cars on the market that get remarkable economy is amazing, and what's more amazing is their price. On the other hand, finding a cheap diesel powered small car is quite difficult as there is nowhere near the range. The "premium" price you pay for an equivalent diesel model seems to far outweigh the benefits in running costs, and that's unlikely to change unless diesel suddenly becomes much cheaper or diesel powered cars are offered at the same price as petrol models. Two things which are highly unlikely to happen any time real soon. > Not that I'm into Landies in any way. He meybe needs looked > at over that.... And they smell - the interior of all of them have > the same smell. It's not good or bad, but still smells. They all stink. In every way :) -- Regards, Noddy. |
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