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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / March 2008Camry Sticky clutch
early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it and followed the manual re adjustment but it's still sticking a little although drives very well and will idle ok in gear once it's in , so is there something which will help it release correctly not mentioned in the Hayes ? >early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it >and followed the manual re adjustment but it's still sticking a little >although drives very well and will idle ok in gear once it's in , so is >there something which will help it release correctly not mentioned in >the Hayes ? My old Triumph PI used to do that if it stood around for yonks in very humid weather (only one I've ever known to do it). The fix was simple (getting the initial release was the hardest part).... 1) Place front bumper bar against a soft immovable object (or chain the rear axle). 2) Engage first gear. 3) Start engine with clutch pedal depressed. 4) Slip the clutch against the load a couple of times (without overdoing it). Used to work for me every time (until the next bout of humid weather). The clutch was perfect (condition wise), musta been something to do with the friction material used.  SignatureJohn H On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:28:17 +1000, John_H blathered on in :aus.cars >>early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The clutch was perfect (condition wise), musta been something to do > with the friction material used. ummm, that was crank end-float you had there - the clutch pressure plate travel just couldn't cut it:-);-) >ummm, that was crank end-float you had there - the clutch pressure plate >travel just couldn't cut it:-);-) Nope... 4 thou end float on mine, though end float was a problem on some of the MkII Triumphs. I actually made up thrusts for my mother's car (2.5 TC) which had around 16 thou from factory IIRC (and no means of adjusting it). The end float problem was totally different... variation in the pedal's distance from the floor at which the clutch took up. Mine was a sticky driven plate (which never showed up until I moved to the tropics). Clutch plate simply wouldn't release from the flywheel after the car had been standing for a few weeks :) SignatureJohn H >> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The clutch was perfect (condition wise), musta been something to do > with the friction material used. I drove it up the street earlier with clutch 1/2 depressed and as it warmed up things improved.. but it's till sticky into first.. and I don't want to move the box out for a fiddle:( might just drive it a bit tonight and stomp up some hills . Humidity may well be a factor . >>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > might just drive it a bit tonight and stomp up some hills . > Humidity may well be a factor . Driving it may just free it up. My guess is the clutch plate is sticking on the spline and it may come good with a bit of use. Daryl > >early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > 4) Slip the clutch against the load a couple of times (without > overdoing it). Why the f.ck would you use first. Greater load and slip if you select a higher gear, no need for vehicle bondage sh.t. Anyway, he's prolabery just got a common hydraulic prolem or clutch centre stuck to spline by wust and/or other bad fings. Al SignatureLike Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >Why the f.ck would you use first. Greater load and slip if you select a >higher gear, no need for vehicle bondage sh.t. Mainly because it didn't have a 20kW starter motor. :) SignatureJohn H > >Why the f.ck would you use first. Greater load and slip if you select a > >higher gear, no need for vehicle bondage sh.t. > > Mainly because it didn't have a 20kW starter motor. :) He could get toad by a Lada :-) Al SignatureLike Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> >Why the f.ck would you use first. Greater load and slip if you select a >> >higher gear, no need for vehicle bondage sh.t. >> >> Mainly because it didn't have a 20kW starter motor. :) >> >He could get toad by a Lada :-) In which case the method would become.... 1) Attach Lada. 2) Block crankshaft. 3) Place in top gear (out of consideration for the Lada). 4) Depress clutch pedal. 5) Commence toading (if you can). SignatureJohn H > >> >Why the f.ck would you use first. Greater load and slip if you select a > >> >higher gear, no need for vehicle bondage sh.t. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > 4) Depress clutch pedal. > 5) Commence toading (if you can). I had to cane it when I toad a mates commodore. His brakes were smoking for some reason :-) Al SignatureLike Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Al there is no additional resistance to depressing the clutch which is why I though maybe the linings have gone sticky , a couple of laps of the block and it changes ferpectly when moving just wont release fully when stopped as detected by idle in and out of gear . > >>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > block and it changes ferpectly when moving just wont release fully when > stopped as detected by idle in and out of gear . The clutch centre can be stuck to the spline to cause just that. The pressure plate lifts clear but the flywheel drags the clutch plate with it. Sometimes, if the box is removed i's with great difficulty. It's not a floodie is it? Moly spray on the spline is pretty good at preventing it happening again... well that's what I used. Al SignatureLike Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Al floodie ? not a familiar term If it doesnt come good shortly it will be drag the box over a bit and spray away . > >>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Al > floodie ? not a familiar term Fully or partially submerged in H2O... possibly contaminated. Being a Camry it may have typhoid. Al >>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Fully or partially submerged in H2O... possibly contaminated. as I said it was standing a while > Being a Camry it may have typhoid. Similar to your all over-town arse ? > Al > >>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Similar to your all over-town arse ? So, $5 monopoly money I emailed you next Tuesday afternoon wasn't enough to keep quiet about my hot arse? Al SignatureI don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >>>>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>>>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > So, $5 monopoly money I emailed you next Tuesday afternoon wasn't enough > to keep quiet about my hot arse? Not when I saw you being done over big time by noddles , no way could I keep quite about that ( imagine recheing sounds) > Al > >>>>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >>>>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Not when I saw you being done over big time by noddles , no way could > I keep quite about that ( imagine recheing sounds) Who wooda thunk it, before the mating I ate baked beans, chillies and.. and onions. I insisted I was the man but he was just too strong :-) ..for a dwarf. Al SignatureLike Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >>>>>>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the >>>>>>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Al you are a sick individual , no wonder you live on the coast . > >>>>>>>>>>> early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > >>>>>>>>>>> clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Al > you are a sick individual , no wonder you live on the coast . Not as sick as Nod. He picked me up but made me walk the 1500 km back home. boom-tish Some persons may think all this is true.. probably Americans. Al > early 1990's model /csx 5 speed been sitting some months and now the > clutch tends to hang and is stopping engaging 1st off park , bleed it > and followed the manual re adjustment but it's still sticking a little > although drives very well and will idle ok in gear once it's in , so is > there something which will help it release correctly not mentioned in > the Hayes ? Just a guess, but is the throw-out lever travelling its full amount? FWIW, mines had a clutch job, and it seems to need every last bit of movement of the foot-pedal, or it wont fully disengage,..but OTOH, it takes up quite high. There are no hyd leaks from clutch master/slave. Jason |
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