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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / March 2008Who can you trust as a tyre dealer.
Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work colleague picked her up and took her to work some 30 mins away. She asked if I would pick up the car for her and handle the details for her. About two hours later, I got a phone call from the tyre dealer rep stating she needed 4 tyres replaced as they were almost not legal and she would be wasting her time spending the $25 for the puncture repair. I asked for a quote and was told $115 per wheel fitted and balanced, plus $10 for tyre disposal. I then asked for a discount (I would dispose of the tyres myself) and as it would be a cash deal, considering there were 4 of them. He came back and said $99 each. I made the call to my friend and she said what did I think. As I didn't know the condition of her tyres, I told her she should be able to trust this particular company. When I got the call in the afternoon to pick up the car, I went to check the old tyres for wear, but couldn't find them. I then asked the assistant where were they. 5 mins later, 2 guys came out with the 4 tyres and put them in the boot. After I got home I went to check on the tyres to see if they would be good enough for my trailer as spares. I was somewhat amazed to notice how the punctured tyre had been repaired and all 4 had been painted to make them look good. There was still almost 40% tread on 2 of them and 30% left on the other 2. So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer manufacterers as they all seem to put second hand tyres on their new trailers which is another story again. Tricky situation. Roger. > So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose of > the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer manufacterers > as they all seem to put second hand tyres on their new trailers which is > another story again. Tricky situation. So you're not going to name names? It's a shame how liability has extended to the 'net, past radio and television. Bastards Inc will continue to live. Make up for it by telling all your friends and family, and name names. Good news travels fast, bad news travels faster. Might to prudent to mention the specific branch, as it might be the case that practice is localised to that branch alone.  SignatureLinux Registered User # 302622 <http://counter.li.org> >> So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose >> of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > mention the specific branch, as it might be the case that practice is > localised to that branch alone. It doesn't matter who the store was nationally. I guess it wouldn't be fair to mention the name as it could put aspertions on all their branches, and this newsgroup is read Australia wide. Certainly, the local fraternity are being told by word of mouth. The point of the exercise was to tell what happened in this particular case and for others to be aware that this practice does go on to the uninitiated, so be warned. I'd say it could be more common than what we all care to think. Roger >>> So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose >>> of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to mention the name as it could put aspertions on all their branches, and > this newsgroup is read Australia wide. Probably Bob Jane's. Signaturehttp://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg >>>> So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose >>>> of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Probably Bob Jane's. you know, that was the name floating around in the back of my head as well :-) Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg <snip> >>> It doesn't matter who the store was nationally. I guess it wouldn't be >>> fair to mention the name as it could put aspertions on all their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you know, that was the name floating around in the back of my head as well > :-) I still bear a grudge with Bob Jane in Nambour, over my 1984 Fairlane and the 12 slotters & 235's they were so confident "would fit no problems at all" and were ordered and purchased at their recommendation, which were also not legal in QLD (I'd just moved from the NT which is/was much more lenient and so trusted their suggestion). They totally lost interest once they had my money, of course. > I still bear a grudge with Bob Jane in Nambour, over my 1984 Fairlane and > the 12 slotters & 235's they were so confident "would fit no problems at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They totally lost interest once they had my money, of course. A certain tyre company who I won't name (it started with Bob and ended with what is usally a ladies name) told me that a set of 18s would fit my rx7 (supposedly only 10mm wider overall and same diameter). The tyres damaged both guards pretty soon after they were fitted. The suspension is standard so there was no issue there. I had to take a wheel off soon after getting them to do the brakes and spent a good deal of time doing my best not to scratch the wheels with the socket. When they did the next alignment they scratched the crap out of them. When i cracked it the guy told me he'd been doing this for 16 years and that I shouldn't tell him how to do his job. I asked him how come after 16 years he still doesn't know how to take a wheel off. He shut up after that but my wheels are still scratched. > I had to take a wheel off soon after getting them to do the brakes and spent > a good deal of time doing my best not to scratch the wheels with the socket. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > still doesn't know how to take a wheel off. He shut up after that but my > wheels are still scratched. Related ... Tyre monkeys don't know the f.ck what they are doing, or what tyres for what vehicle. I had to throw away a few $100 on new tyres "Olympic Overlander" that made my vehicle more than slightly dangerous. I watch them now, and they do exactly what I say, and use the products I say. I don't care if that gives them the shites. After all it's not their vehicle. >> I had to take a wheel off soon after getting them to do the brakes and >> spent a good deal of time doing my best not to scratch the wheels with [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > say. I don't care if that gives them the shites. After all it's not > their vehicle. I once had a set of tyres fitted by The Tyre f.ckers in Dandenong. After driving about a kilometre down the road the car started wobbling so I pulled over to see what was going on. I was horrified to see that every wheel nut on all four wheels was about to come off its stud! Most of the holes in the rims were also elongated which pretty much stuffed them. Anyway, I managed to sort it all out and drove the car home and then rang up the manager of the store who was very apologetic and asked me to come back and he'd get one his monkey's to have a look at the damage and fix it. I told him that the last thing I'd ever do would be to go back there and he replied, "fair enough, I understand, sorry mate!". Now I just make it my business to tell anyone and everyone to avoid the place like the plague, oh.. and I always check the wheel nuts whenever I leave a tyre fitters shop :) Signaturea9x5l a9x5l wrote:> > I once had a set of tyres fitted by The Tyre f.ckers in Dandenong. After > driving about a kilometre down the road the car started wobbling so I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > plague, oh.. and I always check the wheel nuts whenever I leave a tyre > fitters shop :) If the holes are elongated - they are stuffed IMO. I would never have any peace of mind driving on wheels like that, once they come loose they can also shear off the wheel studs (I've seen this happen). I would've taken up their offer, gone back and insisted they replace the wheels. > a9x5l wrote:> >> I once had a set of tyres fitted by The Tyre f.ckers in Dandenong. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > happen). I would've taken up their offer, gone back and insisted they > replace the wheels. Maybe in the heat of the moment I was a little hasty to make the decision not to take up the offer but luckily they were only cheap steel (volvo) rims so I wasn't too fussed about the wheels, my safety (and that of others) was what concerned me, and that was why I rang, to let him know what a stupid tool he had working for him. Signaturea9x5l > I had to take a wheel off soon after getting them to do the brakes and > spent a good deal of time doing my best not to scratch the wheels with the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > after 16 years he still doesn't know how to take a wheel off. He shut up > after that but my wheels are still scratched. Tyre fitting/front end alignment is the low end of vehicle maintenance, and most of the people who do it for a living are rock apes. I had a guy do a front end alignment for me once, and to correct the issue he straightened the left wheel, adjusted the misalignment out of the right and then removed and refitted the steering wheel so it was straight. When I told him I didn't want it done like that he gave me a similar response in that he said "Look mate, I've been doing this for 30 years", to which I replied "Well pal, you've been doing it wrong for all that time because you're a lazy c.nt". -- Regards, Noddy. > > I had to take a wheel off soon after getting them to do the brakes and > > spent a good deal of time doing my best not to scratch the wheels with the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > replied "Well pal, you've been doing it wrong for all that time because > you're a lazy c.nt". Similar experience years ago - condescending c.nts refused (I now think because they didn't know how to do it) to use alignment specs provided 'let us do it to our specs, trust me, and come back if you don't like it'. A few weeks later, outside 1 inch of tread down to the belts. They said 'not our fault, you drove it hard' (or words to that effect); Revenge was extracted, albeit the one tid bit missing was they never knew why it happened or from whom (but hey, only a fool would want to kiss freedom goodbye just for that small icing on the cake. There was then a place a mate and I got friendly with - and on a quiet weekend, for a small fee (we did buy tyres from them thereafter as well) if they were quiet, they'd let us on the wheel alignment machine, and let us fark around with it till we were happy with the result. Unfortunately the bloke got divorced and f.cked off the business as part of the manouevering. At which time i welded up a few tools and have done them myself ever since. SignatureJohn McKenzie tosspam@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@aol.com vice.president@whitehouse.gov president@whitehouse.gov sweep.day@accc.gov.au uce@ftc.gov admin@loopback abuse@iprimus.com.au $LOGIN@localhost world's #1 sardine whisperer root@mailloop.com $USER@$HOST $LOGNAME@localhost -h1024@localhost abuse@msn.com abuse@federalpolice.gov.au fraudinfo@psinet.com abuse@asio.gov.au $USER@localhost abuse@sprint.com abuse@fbi.gov abuse@cia.gov >> I still bear a grudge with Bob Jane in Nambour, over my 1984 Fairlane and >> the 12 slotters & 235's they were so confident "would fit no problems at [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > still doesn't know how to take a wheel off. He shut up after that but my > wheels are still scratched. All to familiar story... I recently bought a new set of mags and tyres for my R34, no problem and good service etc. But they did tell me to ensure no-one ever goes near those wheels with a rattle gun - and I intend to ensure thats exactly what happens. [snip] Remember those? > I recently bought a new set of mags and tyres for my R34, no problem and > good service etc. But they did tell me to ensure no-one ever goes near > those wheels with a rattle gun - and I intend to ensure thats exactly what > happens. Anyone who goes nears wheel nuts with a rattle gun (other than to undo them) needs to be shot. > So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose of > the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer manufacterers > as they all seem to put second hand tyres on their new trailers which is > another story again. Tricky situation. Common practice I'm afraid, and especially where women are involved. Retailers have absolutely no obligation to prevent you from doing anything as far as "legal" goes, and while you didn't say they insisted on fitting new tyres "for legality" I've heard that claim so many times it's not funny. One interesting one happened some years ago. I had a regular private customer who was a retired guy that owned an XF Fairmont Ghia, and at the time the thing was 10 years old, only travelled 20 odd thousand genuine kays and was in immaculate condition. I serviced it regularly and was very familiar with the car. Anyway, one day while waiting for his wife at a shopping centre there was an exhaust & brake "specialist" nearby offering free safety inspections, and being bored he thought he'd take up the offer. While he sat in the waiting room enjoying a free cup of coffee, they whizzed his Falcon up onto a hoist and proceeded to busy themselves going over it. A few minutes later the "manager" comes in with the bad news, and claims it needs a new transmission as the entire underside of the car is covered in trans fluid, the front suspension needs complete reconditioning and it needed a steering box overhaul. The owner thanked them for their time, put down his cup and asked if he could have his car back so he could go pick up his wife. At this point the manager said he was sorry, but he couldn't do that. He informed the owner that because the car was in "such bad condition" it was actually illegal to give it back to him and let him use it like it was, in case he had an accident and injured or killed someone and they'd be liable. The owner pissed himself laughing, told them to stop f.cking around and get his car down as he was running late. The manager was serious. The owner then asked if he could use the phone, and called me to tell me the story. I jumped in my van and shot over there (it wasn't far from my shop) told the manager who I was and that the car belonged to a client of mine, and asked to see the faults that required such urgent attention. When he refused to show me I informed him that if the owners car wasn't on the ground in the next 3 seconds he would be himself, and I assured him he wouldn't f.cking enjoy the experience on little bit. The car was promptly let down and the owner on his way, and the company was reported to whoever took care of that sh.t (the owner made the call). -- Regards, Noddy. >> So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose >> of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I would have no hesitation in believing that story. There are some dodgy c.nts around alright and your client was very lucky to have you knowing what you did about their car. What was the outcome of all this? Did the specialist move on to another location? By the way, did you speak to him in "Noddy language"? I'll bet you f.cking did you nasty c.nt.............as would I have ;>) Roger > I would have no hesitation in believing that story. There are some dodgy > c.nts around alright and your client was very lucky to have you knowing > what you did about their car. What was the outcome of all this? Did the > specialist move on to another location? It was one of those brake & exhaust chains that have a number of stores all over the place, and while I don't know what happened with regard to this particular case I heard some nasty stories about that particular outlet and noticed that they'd closed and moved to another area not all that long after this happened. > By the way, did you speak to him in "Noddy language"? I'll bet you > f.cking did you nasty c.nt.............as would I have ;>) I certainly did. The guy was a prick, and just trying to prey on some old bloke who clearly wasn't interested and told them so. c.nts like that get all they deserve in my opinion. -- Regards, Noddy. >> So it now appears to me, this particular branch had intended to dispose >> of the tyres by reselling them........probably to local trailer [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > The car was promptly let down and the owner on his way, and the company > was reported to whoever took care of that sh.t (the owner made the call). **I got caught by one of those bastards once. The BP garage at Kingsgrove (no longer there) sent a mailer to my letter box, offering a good deal on oil changes and such. I decided to use them for my oil change and rego check. They did the service and rego check, but failed my car on the tyres. I walked the guy 'round my car and asked him to show me where the "4 bald tyres" were. He managed to point out two. I then showed him the spare, which was still legal. I told him that I was getting a new set anyway, would he sign the rego papers. No luck. Anyway, I drove down to Fred's Treds and asked for my Avon Steels (it was a long time ago). I told them that the wheel lock key was in the glove box. It wasn't there. The idiot at the BP garage had lost it. Bastard. Then there was the time I went to another BP garage and asked for my usual BP Corse+ oil. I could smell that they used the cheap crap. Sheesh! Do these guys think that people are complete idiots. BP Corse+ has a very distinct odour (as I'm sure you know) and colour. Arseholes. I made them drain the oil and refill with Corse+ twice. This was suggested by my mate who worked as an industrial chemist at Caltex. Corse+ should never be mixed with regular oils. Which brings me to another, unrelated story: My mate at Caltex told me how a guy delivered (on a trailer) his beloved Maserati, along with a demand for a huge engine rebuild bill. He claimed that the Castrol oil buggered his engine. They stripped the engine and found the problem. They asked the owner if he used any oil additives, like STP. "Yep" he answered. They explained that the STP clogged the oil filter and the oil bypass allowed contaminants to damage the engine. Trevor Wilson > My mate at Caltex told me how a guy delivered (on a trailer) his beloved > Maserati, along with a demand for a huge engine rebuild bill. He claimed > that the Castrol oil buggered his engine. They stripped the engine and > found the problem. They asked the owner if he used any oil additives, like > STP. "Yep" he answered. They explained that the STP clogged the oil filter > and the oil bypass allowed contaminants to damage the engine. Nasty :) Additives of any kind usually do very little other than lighten your wallet unfortunately, but some people still swear by them. Petrol "injector cleaners" and other "fuel treatments" are usually the worst, as there isn't a single one of them that's been scientifically proved to do jack other than make your car more expensive to fill, but people keep buying them. As far as the rogue traders go, in my experience it's been the "quickie" type speciality outlets that are the worst. Places like brake, exhaust and the odd transmission specialist are more often than not on the shonky side, and sadly they're the ones who give the honest general repairer a bad name. -- Regards, Noddy. >As far as the rogue traders go, in my experience it's been the "quickie" >type speciality outlets that are the worst. Places like brake, exhaust and >the odd transmission specialist are more often than not on the shonky side, >and sadly they're the ones who give the honest general repairer a bad name. How any repairer can operate in the motor trades, remain honest, and not consider the general public to be the scum of the Earth is way beyond me. My old man, who mostly chose his own customers, and they him, always reckoned the average motorist was his own worst enemy. Nothing I've ever experienced disproves the theory. In other words... a very large number of them get exactly the treatment they deserve! :) Had to laugh back when I worked for Govco. One of the staff, who would've sued if you'd called him a crook, told me how his Holden starter motor had quit so he took it to an auto electrician who lent him a spare while his own was being repaired. Of course he didn't go back to collect it and didn't intend to. I asked if he was aware that the auto electrician would have the last laugh. How come? Well he's got your original starter, that's never previously been touched, and you've got the one that he made up out of scrap parts that any other auto electrician will be able to spot from a mile off. Meanwhile the price to repair yours will be going up by 20% a week (if he hasn't already sold it to someone else). Stunned silence. Within the next couple of weeks... guess what? :))) SignatureJohn H > How any repairer can operate in the motor trades, remain honest, and > not consider the general public to be the scum of the Earth is way > beyond me. It can certainly test your patience, that's for sure. > My old man, who mostly chose his own customers, and they him, always > reckoned the average motorist was his own worst enemy. Nothing I've > ever experienced disproves the theory. Me either. > In other words... a very large number of them get exactly the > treatment they deserve! :) Yep :) > Had to laugh back when I worked for Govco. One of the staff, who > would've sued if you'd called him a crook, told me how his Holden [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Within the next couple of weeks... guess what? :))) Lol :) -- Regards, Noddy. > Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known > national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work colleague [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Roger. The moral of this sad tale is - take the time to know every detail of your vehicles health. >> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > The moral of this sad tale is - take the time to know every detail of > your vehicles health. Yes, of course you're right, but in this instance, I did not know the condition of her tyres. Don't worry, I do feel bad over it, as I told her she could trust this particular national tyre company. I mean we are talking about $400 worth of tyres (which probably equates to about $150 profit) not $4,000 worth. Then again, if this practice goes on every day for the unwary, that soon mounts up towards the manager's holiday bonus for increased sales for that particular month. I know how this works, just as it does with drug companies and doctors. I've done similar myself, just not with tyre or drug companies. Roger > <nofarken...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:a8dc58c4-f131-4894-b94a-b8d4d5d9ba0c@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > > >> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known It does go on . But for those in WA I have only good things to say about Beurepairs In Geraldton (both Branches) and Dalwalinu . The other side of the coin same national company and two branches I know of in Perth "tried it on" on something similar only using wheel alignment as the scam Both those locations now have new Franchisees :) Took awhile on one but the other one got nailed by Tax and took a powder (eventually) > Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known > national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work colleague [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Roger. Well if your friend had picked up the car she wouldn't know any better. At 30% tread they're probably unsafe in the wet anyway soat least 2 tyres were ready to replace, and if they can resell them rather than dump them, who cares, what happens to a tyre you don't want anymore? >> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > were ready to replace, and if they can resell them rather than dump them, > who cares, what happens to a tyre you don't want anymore? f.ck, where do you work? The point was, the quote stated $10 for tyre disposal, not f.cking reselling. I s'pose you wouldn't complain then if the same happened to you then? On checking the tyres, they were not even down to the "legal" depth indicator and the 30% and 40% were approximates only. Remember, I took them on their word of honesty and if you think that is honesty, good luck to your future. Roger >>> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >>> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Roger Well f.ck (seeing that word is one of your requirements for communication), if the legal tead indicatator is the measure of safeness on a tyre then, so be it, yeah they charged to dispose of them and probably do throw most out, but if the the average yuppie wants their old tyres to take home they can, yeah I heard of people saving $40 by spending 4 hours cutting 4 tires up with a hacksaw to put in the wheelire bin too because they won't pay the dump $10 direct either. Yeah well they probably were better saying only 2 tyres were due for replacement and others later, but if you don't have a clue as to the condition of your cars attachment points to the road, perhaps a driver should take an interest if they do care that much. If they don't care that much, this is what happens. You got your good trailer tires and she has good grip to the road again and at $99 each they got to be cheap & nasty too, but you get what you pay for, I hope you paid her for them seeing they had 30-40% tread still, I figure you owe her at least $140 :P >>>> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >>>> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > too, but you get what you pay for, I hope you paid her for them seeing > they had 30-40% tread still, I figure you owe her at least $140 :P You would have to be a complete idiot. The fact that 95% (you're the 5%) of those who responded to the OP could understand, says more about you than me. Roger >>>>> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >>>>> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Roger Don't hold back there if you're really just here for the thrills of insulting people from behind the pretense of talking cars just say so. The fact 95% of respondents could do so with out resorting to insults says a lot about you too. You're plonked anyway w.nker. >> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work colleague [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > 30% tread they're probably unsafe in the wet anyway soat least 2 tyres were > ready to replace, and if they can resell them rather than dump them, But they were going to charge her 10 bucks to dispose of them AS WELL AS reselling them.!! who > cares, what happens to a tyre you don't want anymore? >>> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >>> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > who >> cares, what happens to a tyre you don't want anymore? Glad you can see the point....sh.t, I remember years ago, tyre companies used to give trade ins for your old tyres. Roger > Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known > national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work colleague [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Roger. and of course the main problem is that SHE didn't know the condition of her tyres so SHE is to blame for being ripped off by not knowing as mush as the guys at the tyre dealers are for ripping her off how hard is it to look at the tyres once a week what's the condition of the rest of her car does she even know where the engine oil dipstick and radiator cap is??? Kev >> Yesterday a female friend of mine had to take her car to a well known >> national large tyre dealer to have a puncture repaired. Her work [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Kev f.ck, so there are 2 deadbeat c.nts in this post now. Are the two of you so f.cking stupid and lopsided that that's what you contribute in here. Even Noddy had the common sense to understand what the post was about and did not resort to childish sh.t like you and that other fuckwit lambrain Rainbow Warrior. They f.cking lied pal, pure and f.cking simple and took my friend down in the process after I told her she could trust them. To say she had to pay for "disposal" was a ripoff if not a lie and the fact the punctured tyre was repaired and along with the others were freshly "tyre blacked" and put in the tyres for sale rack, proves they also f.cking lied. If you're too stupid (which you have already proven you are) to understand that, then GAGF. By the way, do you work at Beaurepairs, Bob Jane or Bridgestone? Roger > f.ck, so there are 2 deadbeat c.nts in this post now. Are the two of you so > f.cking stupid and lopsided that that's what you contribute in here. Even [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Roger so you don't understand what I said IF she had known the condition of the tyres when you called her she would have been able to tell you that they were full of sh.t, it's that simple, them telling lies is just a result of her ignorance to the state of her car and the subject of tyre disposal wouldn't even be an issue would it Like someone else said car owners are their own worst enemy Kev >> f.ck, so there are 2 deadbeat c.nts in this post now. Are the two of you >> so f.cking stupid and lopsided that that's what you contribute in here. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Kev Just plonk the clown, he's just a pissed off overaggro small dicked w.nker who couldn't get a root in a brothel with a gold mastercard because he talks like this to everyone and can't work out why everyone charges him an extra dilbit loser sockrooter tax and he loves being plnked too, it's his idea of sex :P >>> f.ck, so there are 2 deadbeat c.nts in this post now. Are the two of you >>> so f.cking stupid and lopsided that that's what you contribute in here. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > an extra dilbit loser sockrooter tax and he loves being plnked too, it's > his idea of sex :P That's convincing. Congratulations, you've just been moved to the top of the list of deadshits who wouldn't know sh.t from rain. Roger >> f.ck, so there are 2 deadbeat c.nts in this post now. Are the two of you >> so f.cking stupid and lopsided that that's what you contribute in here. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > when you called her she would have been able to tell you that they were > full of sh.t, it's that simple, No it's not. When they tell you that 69,000klm out of a set of 14" Yokohamas is way beyond a tyre mileage (particularly for a FWD vehicle) of course she is going to believe them. Most people don't even know about the "inbuilt tyre gauge" put into the treads. them telling lies is just a result of > her ignorance to the state of her car > and the subject of tyre disposal wouldn't even be an issue would it > > Like someone else said car owners are their own worst enemy No Kev, it's people like you who stick up for these pricks who take the honesty out of "a" transaction that allows this to happen. So ignorance on the part of a female car owner is a good excuse to be "taken for a ride" in your vocabulary is it? Un-f.cking-believable! Roger By the way, do you work at Beaurepairs, Bob Jane or Bridgestone? >>> Roger >> so you don't understand what I said [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is going to believe them. Most people don't even know about the "inbuilt > tyre gauge" put into the treads. > them telling lies is just a result of >> her ignorance to the state of her car [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the part of a female car owner is a good excuse to be "taken for a ride" in > your vocabulary is it? Un-f.cking-believable! at what stage was I sticking up for these people my point was that she just aided their scam by not knowing the condition of her tyres maybe you could be proactive and educate her so she doesn't get ripped off again Kev > By the way, do you work at Beaurepairs, Bob Jane or Bridgestone? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > maybe you could be proactive and educate her so she doesn't get ripped off > again I know what you mean Kev, but, really how many women would argue with a reputable tyre company after telling her she was very fortunate to have almost 70,000klms out of her set of tyres. Roger > I know what you mean Kev, but, really how many women would argue with a > reputable tyre company after telling her she was very fortunate to have > almost 70,000klms out of her set of tyres. Her fault for being an ignorant idiot. -- Regards, Noddy. >> I know what you mean Kev, but, really how many women would argue with a >> reputable tyre company after telling her she was very fortunate to have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. That's about the childish response I'd expect from a fucktard. Roger > That's about the childish response I'd expect from a fucktard. What a gentleman you are :) -- Regards, Noddy. > I know what you mean Kev, but, really how many women would argue with a > reputable tyre company after telling her she was very fortunate to have > almost 70,000klms out of her set of tyres. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Did she know that she in fact got 70,000 km's off her set of tyres? -- Don't.need.expert.knowledge.to.know.about.that. |
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