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Car Forum / Australian Car Forums / General Car Topics (Australian group) / March 2008Toyota Celsior vs Aristo
Anyone driven both and care to comment? I'm looking at Toyota's bargearse-sedans, and these two look the goods for the money IMHO. I'm expecting the twin turbo Aristo will have better acceleration, but the 4.0L V8 in the Celsior would be a pretty nice drive (and nicer trim), and several thousand bucks cheaper to boot - and I also spotted a blower kit to suit for $3300 locally. Thoughts? Cheers, Andy. > Anyone driven both and care to comment? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cheers, > Andy. http://tinyurl.com/2flnrv ;-P >> Anyone driven both and care to comment? >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ;-P that is just so wrong, on so many levels......  SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? >>> Anyone driven both and care to comment? >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > that is just so wrong, on so many levels...... Why?? It's low got wide wheels probably a V8/turbo 6 and a body kit 4 big exhausts isn't that what all SS and HSV, XR6/8 FPV vehicles are all about? Kev >>>> Anyone driven both and care to comment? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Kev well for a start its just plain ugly, and secondly it looks like it was riced by someone living in an 80's time loop. SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? >>>>> Anyone driven both and care to comment? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > well for a start its just plain ugly, and secondly it looks like it was > riced by someone living in an 80's time loop. What's rice about it see my first resonse Kev >>>>>> Anyone driven both and care to comment? >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Kev and I need to explain why I don't like a car and think is looks like a leggo abortion to you because??? Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg >> What's rice about it >> see my first response [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and I need to explain why I don't like a car and think is looks like a leggo > abortion to you because??? That was not my question you described it as rice what's rice about it? Kev In article <815286c4-0957-4d38-93e5-a2f519e1a7c0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, > > Anyone driven both and care to comment? > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > ;-P LOL. At least the bodykit actually *fits*. Even better this fine piece is currently for sale in Sydney: http://tinyurl.com/2vjsng Andy. > In article > <815286c4-0957-4d38-93e5-a2f519e1a7c0@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/2vjsng Without the added fibreglass crap... these are really nice cars IMO, and quite a bit cheaper than the Lexus equivalents (for no real good reason that I'm aware of). I prefer the V8 engine, despite the lower power output, so smooth and they have a great reputation for reliability. > > LOL. At least the bodykit actually *fits*. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that I'm aware of). I prefer the V8 engine, despite the lower power > output, so smooth and they have a great reputation for reliability. Yep. Upon researching it a bit further, I'll likely still be ahead by a few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any lack of power ;-) Cheers, Andy. >>> LOL. At least the bodykit actually *fits*. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any > lack of power ;-) Nice car/engine combo. I was considering one of these )Celsior or Lexus) and it was on my short-list, but went for the Skyline in the end (two very different cars, I know). Signaturehttp://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg > > Yep. Upon researching it a bit further, I'll likely still be ahead by a > > few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > short-list, but went for the Skyline in the end (two very different > cars, I know). Which Skyline did you end up buying? Gosh I feel dirty, actually talking about CARS in here ;-) A. >>> Yep. Upon researching it a bit further, I'll likely still be ahead by a >>> few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which Skyline did you end up buying? This one: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4845/medgallery4618123201529vn9.jpg > Gosh I feel dirty, actually talking about CARS in here ;-) Yeah, I know. It just feels... *wrong*! Signaturehttp://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg > >>> Yep. Upon researching it a bit further, I'll likely still be ahead by a > >>> few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > This one: > http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4845/medgallery4618123201529vn9.jpg Nice. I do like the look of those, but I really need 4 doors. Turbo? > > Gosh I feel dirty, actually talking about CARS in here ;-) > > Yeah, I know. It just feels... *wrong*! I'm sure there'll be another boring flamewar soon enough. In the meantime, this puts any wannabe 'drifter' to shame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlOnTm2W_4&fmt=18 Andy. >>>>> Yep. Upon researching it a bit further, I'll likely still be ahead by a >>>>> few grand if I go the Celsior route + blower which will make up for any [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nice. I do like the look of those, but I really need 4 doors. I was looking for a four door, but it proved impossible to find one with the specs I wanted. I've since come across two - one wasn't for sale anyway, and the one that was for sale had a fugly body kit, which would have had to be removed. > Turbo? Of course... now with a bigger turbo thanks to the boys at CRD. >>> Gosh I feel dirty, actually talking about CARS in here ;-) >> Yeah, I know. It just feels... *wrong*! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlOnTm2W_4&fmt=18 Fark, imagine being in the back of that... Signaturehttp://fun.drno.de/pics/english/rooftops.jpg > In the meantime, this puts any wannabe 'drifter' to shame: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVlOnTm2W_4&fmt=18 It's OK the tunnel wall straightened her up fine Kev On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:21:47 +1100, Andy blathered on in :aus.cars > Anyone driven both and care to comment? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cheers, > Andy. just in case.... Celsior+WankerBadges+Golf Club menbership = Lexus 400 Series. Aristo + Silly Badges = Lexus GS300. The Aristo is a much more nimble machine. Both use much the same technology IIRC, and so the ARISTO IS THE GO. There's one Aristo turbo AWD model floating about circa early 90's. Very interesting device indeed and in my opinion a bloody lovely car. > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:21:47 +1100, Andy blathered on in :aus.cars > > Anyone driven both and care to comment? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Celsior+WankerBadges+Golf Club menbership = Lexus 400 Series. > Aristo + Silly Badges = Lexus GS300. Yep, noted. Pathetically, whilst Celsiors are going for between $7K-$12K, owners of LS 400s of the same age are asking $20-$25K for almost exactly the same car. Oh, and I don't play golf... > The Aristo is a much more nimble machine. > Both use much the same technology IIRC, and so the ARISTO IS THE GO. > > There's one Aristo turbo AWD model floating about circa early 90's. > Very interesting device indeed and in my opinion a bloody lovely car. Sounds like I need to make a weekend of it and test drive a few. Factory twin turbo would be nice, but I could probably *still* get away cheaper with a Celsior+supercharger... I spotted a 4.0L V8 AWD Aristo online yesterday, just out of my price range though... Cheers, Andy. > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:21:47 +1100, Andy blathered on in :aus.cars >> Anyone driven both and care to comment? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Celsior+WankerBadges+Golf Club menbership = Lexus 400 Series. > Aristo + Silly Badges = Lexus GS300. Is the IS200 a Corolla as well? Kev On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:15:33 +1000, Kev blathered on in :aus.cars >> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:21:47 +1100, Andy blathered on in :aus.cars >>> Anyone driven both and care to comment? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Kev Is200 is a thing called Altezza in Japan - hence the term altezza lights - clear covers with coloured stuff activating when lit. Sort-of. IMHO while OK as executed by Toyota and as it happens by GMH recently, they're usually nothing short of an abomination when done by aftermarket shysters - with the design purpose of tail-lights at best ignored and at worse utterly mashed beyond all recognition as actual lights other drivers can actually discern as 'markers' of something or other. |
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