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Bye bye Rodeo
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Neil Fisher - 28 Mar 2008 05:08 GMT The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but seems it will be as per current series Rodeo with a new front face lift (American styling), possible tail light and surrounding area changes and a few other cosmetics. Still waiting for confirmation on the rest of the vehicle. The following model will have major changes as Holden distances itself further from Isuzu. Word is, Isuzu will take over distribution of the current series through a new Isuzu dealer network but they will not be using the Rodeo badging (not confirmed at the moment) --- Neil Fisher / Bob Young Thundercords personal opinion unless otherwise noted. Looking for spark plug leads? Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au
Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 05:17 GMT > The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new > name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > dealer network but they will not be using the Rodeo badging (not > confirmed at the moment) Why can't we have Au names instead of Spanish/American FFS.
Subaru did well with Brumby, and don't a lot of country folk wish you could still get them. Holden with their Jackaroo did OK.
To be honest an American name goes against the grain with me. It's a negative, not a positive.
Thoughts gentlemen, and Neil. :-P
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Dan--- - 28 Mar 2008 05:24 GMT > Why can't we have Au names instead of Spanish/American FFS. AU names are just as bad.
> Subaru did well with Brumby, and don't a lot of country folk wish you > could still get them. Holden with their Jackaroo did OK. Ok Jackaroo but it sounds too much like a masturbating Kangaroo to the new age masses. :-p
> To be honest an American name goes against the grain with me. It's a > negative, not a positive. And yet we call the outback "The Bush" and in America its run by an idiot called "Bush". :-p
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 05:55 GMT > AU names are just as bad. But at least they *are* Au.
> Ok Jackaroo but it sounds too much like a masturbating Kangaroo to the > new age masses. :-p Heritage mate, heritage.
> And yet we call the outback "The Bush" and in America its run by an idiot > called "Bush". :-p Ha ha.
Subaru has Outback covered, and pretty well IMO (good vehicle).
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Noddy - 28 Mar 2008 06:10 GMT > But at least they *are* Au. I'm kinda with ya', but I'm not *totally* willing to accept a name just because it's Australian.
Take Wandong for example. It's a small town about an hour North of Melbourne that's (relatively) famous for it's annual country music festival, but it's a *crap* sounding name. For a *long* time I thought it was something you could buy in a sex shop.
"Introducing the new Toyota Wandong".
Nah, it sounds like something your missus would strap on when you're away for the week-end :)
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Dan--- - 28 Mar 2008 06:26 GMT > "Introducing the new Toyota Wandong". > > Nah, it sounds like something your missus would strap on when you're > away for the week-end :) I would probably mistake it for a tool to peg the tent up with.
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 06:46 GMT >> "Introducing the new Toyota Wandong". >> >> Nah, it sounds like something your missus would strap on when you're >> away for the week-end :) > > I would probably mistake it for a tool to peg the tent up with. A Wide Area Network dongle? :-)
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Dan--- - 28 Mar 2008 07:04 GMT >> I would probably mistake it for a tool to peg the tent up with. >> > A Wide Area Network dongle? :-) Im not sure if I should put a dial up joke in there or not.
:-/
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 07:51 GMT >> A Wide Area Network dongle? :-) > > Im not sure if I should put a dial up joke in there or not. > :-/ I give up. How do you make "Wandong" into a dial-up joke?
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Scotty - 31 Mar 2008 07:14 GMT >>> A Wide Area Network dongle? :-) >> >> Im not sure if I should put a dial up joke in there or not. >> :-/ >> > I give up. How do you make "Wandong" into a dial-up joke? Hmm, I was just thinking that myself............... Dan, thats your Cue.....
Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 06:45 GMT >> But at least they *are* Au. > > I'm kinda with ya', but I'm not *totally* willing to accept a name just > because it's Australian. Goes without saying. They'd soon find out which names we liked, by sampling maybe.
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the_dawggie - 29 Mar 2008 14:19 GMT > > But at least they *are* Au. > > I'm kinda with ya', but I'm not *totally* willing to accept a name just > because it's Australian. I'll let you stay in my apartment and drive my pickup truck then :-)
> Take Wandong for example. It's a small town about an hour North of Melbourne > that's (relatively) famous for it's annual country music festival, but it's > a *crap* sounding name. For a *long* time I thought it was something you > could buy in a sex shop. LOL! yeah some Australian terms/names are weird.
Associated with each other. Albury-Wodonga comes to mind.
> "Introducing the new Toyota Wandong".
> Nah, it sounds like something your missus would strap on when you're away > for the week-end :) I still need to work out the name Hilux. Never worked out the full story behind that, athough I have a rego plate that pretty much has most of the letters of the word in it.
Dan--- - 28 Mar 2008 06:51 GMT >> AU names are just as bad. > > But at least they *are* Au. Yeah although I still have a hard time stomaching the use of the word Monaro on the VT/VX based 2 door Commodore. And even if Holden re- releases the Torana name I would still have the picture of my LJ XU1 in my mind but not the new one. :-)
Want a car called the didgeridoo? or Boomerang? ;-)
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 07:50 GMT > Want a car called the didgeridoo? or Boomerang? ;-) Maybe Noddy wood. :-P
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Scotty - 31 Mar 2008 07:17 GMT >>> AU names are just as bad. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Want a car called the didgeridoo? or Boomerang? ;-) They already have the 380 Boomerang, thats the one where you have to keep taking it back for recalls and repairs.
And the 380 Digeredoo, thats the one that Sucks as much as it Blows!
Neil Fisher - 28 Mar 2008 05:49 GMT [...]
>Thoughts gentlemen, and Neil. :-P ;-) Thanks!
I'm a Caring, Understanding Nineties Type you know.
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 06:40 GMT > [...] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm a Caring, Understanding Nineties Type you know. I'm a Caring, Realistic, Understanding Nineties Type
So ambiguity man, where are your opinions on vehicle naming, for vehicles driven in Au? :-)
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Neil Fisher - 28 Mar 2008 07:21 GMT >> [...] >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >So ambiguity man, where are your opinions on vehicle naming, >for vehicles driven in Au? :-) Don't give a toss what they call them. Having said that, it seems there are plenty who do, in which case I don't think "Colorado" would be a good choice. How about the new Holden Abo. Any colour you like as long as it's black and windows optional.:-)))
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 07:57 GMT > Don't give a toss what they call them. Having said that, it seems > there are plenty who do, in which case I don't think "Colorado" would > be a good choice. > How about the new Holden Abo. > Any colour you like as long as it's black and windows optional.:-))) Like a dat night-rid'r fellas car, eh. 8-) Cums with Kit.
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Neil Fisher - 30 Mar 2008 22:13 GMT >> Don't give a toss what they call them. Having said that, it seems >> there are plenty who do, in which case I don't think "Colorado" would [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >Like a dat night-rid'r fellas car, eh. 8-) Cums with Kit. Yeah - environmentally friendly too: runs on ethanol. ;-)
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RogerM - 28 Mar 2008 07:51 GMT >> The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new >> name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thoughts gentlemen, and Neil. :-P I'm with you. That was the first thing that came to mind whilst reading the OP.
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Jeßus - 28 Mar 2008 09:23 GMT >> The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new >> name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thoughts gentlemen, and Neil. :-P Cant say I like these yank names either... OTOH many of the Aussie names ain't much better. How about something more neutral - i.e Landcruiser, Hilux etc.
And yeah... bring back the Brumby.
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John_H - 28 Mar 2008 22:54 GMT >Why can't we have Au names instead of Spanish/American FFS. With rodeo being a prime example (it's American)!
>Subaru did well with Brumby, and don't a lot of country folk >wish you could still get them. Holden with their Jackaroo did OK. Probably because most Australians don't know what a jackaroo is! (With the common misconception being that it's just another name for a stockman.)
>To be honest an American name goes against the grain with me. >It's a negative, not a positive.
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Feral Al - 28 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT > With rodeo being a prime example (it's American)! Derived from Spanish.
> http://rodeo.about.com/od/faqs/f/faqrodeo.htm
> Probably because most Australians don't know what a jackaroo is! > (With the common misconception being that it's just another name for a > stockman.)
> http://www.jobguide.thegoodguides.com.au/occupation/view/992913A HTH
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John_H - 28 Mar 2008 23:58 GMT >> With rodeo being a prime example (it's American)! > >Derived from Spanish. > >> http://rodeo.about.com/od/faqs/f/faqrodeo.htm They're no doubt correct about the derivation, but the word itself is a direct import from America. Nor, I'd suspect, would a Spaniard know what it meant!
>> Probably because most Australians don't know what a jackaroo is! >> (With the common misconception being that it's just another name for a >> stockman.) > >> http://www.jobguide.thegoodguides.com.au/occupation/view/992913A So says the popular misconception!
I'd suggest Macquarie for the correct definition... which comes straight from the era of the landed gentry (which is right where it belongs). There are probably still places that engage real jackaroos, but they'd be getting harder to find. Most of those I've come across were the useless offspring of the city rich... such was the nature of the job.
The enduring (and basically correct) image is the jackaroo character in "My Brilliant Career" (for those who go back that far). :)
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Feral Al - 29 Mar 2008 00:19 GMT > They're no doubt correct about the derivation, but the word itself is > a direct import from America. Nor, I'd suspect, would a Spaniard know > what it meant! Exactly. :-)
> So says the popular misconception! Yep. And now you can go to school instead of doing the hard yards on the job. Where's the fun in that. ;-)
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John_H - 29 Mar 2008 01:01 GMT > http://www.jobguide.thegoodguides.com.au/occupation/view/992913A
>> So says the popular misconception!
>Yep. And now you can go to school instead of doing the hard >yards on the job. Where's the fun in that. ;-) Raises an interesting point... since *real* jackaroos weren't usually capable of either! :)
To comment further on the job description above... having spent much of my life in the bush I've _never_ heard a station owner use the term in that context. It's an area where the old terms and their meanings tend to stick even when they no longer apply (ie those who're directly involved haven't changed the job descriptions, and aren't likely to).
In station parlance a cowboy is still a cowboy (always has been and always will be).... He's the one who milks the house cow and looks after the vegie patch.
Pity no one's told jobguide (which makes one wonder what sort of fuckwits our own Govco employs)! :)
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Feral Al - 29 Mar 2008 01:07 GMT > Pity no one's told jobguide (which makes one wonder what sort of > fuckwits our own Govco employs)! :) Jacks and Jills that can't make the grade? :-P
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Klokmeester - 01 Apr 2008 00:21 GMT >> http://www.jobguide.thegoodguides.com.au/occupation/view/992913A > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Pity no one's told jobguide (which makes one wonder what sort of > fuckwits our own Govco employs)! :) A bunch of cowboys obviously.
vance - 29 Mar 2008 09:30 GMT >> The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new >> name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thoughts gentlemen, and Neil. :-P I agree with you, but I imagine Aussie car names are to Americans, what American car names are to Aussies :)
Feral Al - 29 Mar 2008 09:46 GMT > I agree with you, but I imagine Aussie car names are to Americans, what > American car names are to Aussies :) I expect there are more cars in Oz with yank names than there are Oz cars in the US with Oz names. Yeah?
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Noddy - 29 Mar 2008 11:57 GMT > I expect there are more cars in Oz with yank names than there are Oz cars > in the US with Oz names. Yeah? Actually, I can't think of too many Oz cars with Oz names.
Falcon, Fairmont, Fairlane and LTD are all yank terms, Commodore isn't specifically Australian, Calais is part of France, Statesman is any old arsehole on a junket after politics, Camry and Aurion mean absolutely f.ck nothing to anyone other than Toyota and 380 is Japanese code for "Failure".
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David Z - 29 Mar 2008 19:19 GMT >> I expect there are more cars in Oz with yank names than there are Oz cars >> in the US with Oz names. Yeah? > > Actually, I can't think of too many Oz cars with Oz names. > > Falcon, Fairmont, Fairlane and LTD are all yank terms, Caprice is also American...
Dan--- - 30 Mar 2008 06:42 GMT > Falcon, Fairmont, Fairlane and LTD are all yank terms, Commodore isn't > specifically Australian, Calais is part of France, Statesman is any old > arsehole on a junket after politics, Camry and Aurion mean absolutely > f.ck nothing to anyone other than Toyota and 380 is Japanese code for > "Failure". Maybe 380 was the actual target number of audience for the car.
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Scotty - 31 Mar 2008 08:09 GMT >> I expect there are more cars in Oz with yank names than there are Oz cars >> in the US with Oz names. Yeah? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. I dont care what the new models are called either, as long as they bring a V8 Hilux/Tacoma or they dont give em gay or obscure names. I mean how about:
The Mitsubishi - Durda? The Hyundai - Kuna? Range Rover - Ettamogah? Ford - Kunchi? Or the Falcon - Rtakuwima Thipi?
Or to be serious maybe these dont sound that fantastic for model names eh?
Holden - Mutta Mutta (Thunder) Ute Ford - Yarramalong (Mustang)
Just doesnt sound right eh
Any more suggestions?
How about the "Big Fat Aussie Slacker" for the Taxi pack Falcon?
Or the "kantspekunglush" Econovan?
Maybe the "arogntfuka" Landcruiser?
"Tospot" Porshe?
David Z - 28 Mar 2008 09:15 GMT I dunno, somehow "One Tonne Colorado... there goes another One Tonne Coloradoooo" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
> The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new > name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Looking for spark plug leads? > Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au Jeßus - 28 Mar 2008 22:33 GMT > I dunno, somehow "One Tonne Colorado... there goes another One Tonne > Coloradoooo" just doesn't have the same ring to it. I suppose it would be in much the same (mud)vein for you as a human's vs. dog's ring, right dave?
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Klokmeester - 28 Mar 2008 10:31 GMT > The Holden Rodeo is no more. As from the middle of this year the new > name will be Colorado. Exact specs not available at the moment but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > dealer network but they will not be using the Rodeo badging (not > confirmed at the moment) New to me.
zonie - 29 Mar 2008 16:52 GMT Isuzu is getting out of the small truck businees here in the states also. The word is that they want to concentrate on their heavier trucks. For the last many years the Isuzu small truck has bee a re-badged Chevy S-10 called the Hombre. Since '04 when Chevy changed to the Colorado the Isuzu was callled the "Canyon". To be honest with you our Colorado looks to have a lot of your Rodeo in its looks, but we do not get the engines you do as we get no diesel or v-6 in the Colorado. We get a 2.9 I4 or a 3.7 I5 both these engines are based on the 4.2 I6 that comes in the Chevy Trailblazer and the Hummer H3. Before I retired from the Chevy garage in '05 as I was looking at the parts books to learn more about these engines I was not surprised to see the words " Isuzu Motor Co." at the bottom of the page. I work for an AC-Delco parts warehouse now and we have 9 Colorado's , they are '05, '06 and '07s. They are all 4cyl autos w/ac . The '05 trucks are all in the 175,000 to 225,000km range, I have an '07 that I got new in Oct 06 which now done almost 106,000km all city and urban expressway. I have to admit even though I myself prefer Toyota truck by far that this Colorado has been trouble free so far . I am the only driver for this truck and am not an abusive driver. The only repairs have been to replace the Crappy Continental-General tyres that came on it and the rear brake shoes were worn out at 80,000km even though the front pads are still good. The biggest complaint I have is that the interior is too plain and looks cheap but seems to function okay. Petrol usage is about 21-23 mpg . (sorry , I dont know an easy formula to convert to litre/100km ). I will be interested to see what they do as far as engines for use there. If you get a diesel maybe that it will mean one for us also. Hope this pst is useful to any of you that likes the Rodeo and Isuzu trucks. Scott
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