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hi all my brother lost his license last november for 1) 25km/h over limit 2) 61km/h over limit 3)? and he is a red P plater... so all up he has lost it for 9 months. he is going to court because he hasnt paid for his #2. How much does court cost? fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h over in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? goto court again? bigger fine? thanks all for any info. Prison sounds like an option. obviously fines and suspension are not getting the message through. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info.  SignatureLook beyond the window, don't just focus on your own reflection. abuse@spamcop.net for all spam. > Prison sounds like an option. > obviously fines and suspension are not getting the message through. Sounds like a good option to me, odds are what will happen tho is he will get the drivers offenders program and a slap on the wrists scott > my brother lost his license last november for > 1) 25km/h over limit > 2) 61km/h over limit > and he is a red P plater... > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h over I bet he is still driving. -- Michael Culley > my brother lost his license last november for > 1) 25km/h over limit > 2) 61km/h over limit > 3)? > > and he is a red P plater... No he's not. He's "licence cancelled". > so all up he has lost it for 9 months. > he is going to court because he hasnt paid for his #2. > How much does court cost? Is he challenging it or has he simply not paid it? > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h > over in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen > to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? Time to get a lawyer. Seriously, get a lawyer. Obviously if he is found to have been driving the car in the december photograph, he will be charged with driving whilst disqualified, which is ugly. A lawyer (and no one less than a lawyer) can tell him if it is possible to avoid this. For example, it is concievable that: A) If he pays the december fine, he has declared himself to have been the driver of the car, resulting in a charge of driving whilst disqualified. but B) If he says he doesn't know who was driving the car at the time, they "deem" him to have been driving it, so he wears the fine and the points, but most importantly *has not been proven to have been physically driving the car* and therefore does not get charged with driving whilst disqualified. I AM NOT A LAWYER. I do not know if this is what happens. The likely consequences of getting this wrong and being charged with driving whilst disqualified are ugly and expensive. TELL HIM TO FIND A LAWYER. And tell him to ride his bicycle to the lawyer's office. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info. Well license suspensions are really helping, perhaps some time in prison will help! > my brother lost his license last november for > > 1) 25km/h over limit > 2) 61km/h over limit > 3)? ... > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h over > in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? A likely outcome is that he cons a soft hearted family member into claiming they were driving his car at the time. If he doesn't there is a good chance that he will go to jail for a few months and lose his licence for a few years. I don't have any statistics on the average penalty, and I don't even know what state you are in, but in NSW, driving while disqualified has a maximum penalty of 18 months in jail and a fine of $3300, as well as additional driving bans. Sounds like the world will be a safer place with him off the road. Luke > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > he is going to court because he hasnt paid for his #2. > How much does court cost? Well they tend to impose community service or weekend detention when people dont pay fines Little pointing fining them more when they dont pay fines... > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h over > in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? Well he can nominate someone else as the driver of his vehicle. As they can't be sure that it was him driving, they cant charge him with driving while disqualified. So it will just add to his suspension... Although if he admits to driving in the court room, then prosecuters might ask for driving while disqualified as well ? . Ask your Mum or Dad to get him a Lawyer, he WILL need one as he is in big trouble. Also find his car keys and throw them away. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info. Basically, he's stuffed, big time! The fact that the first two infringements were for significant infractions, then when disqualified he not only continued to drive, but to speed, no magistrate will do anything but throw the book at him. And nor should they... your brother is a dick. What sort of family lets him drive whilst disqualified??? He's a dick, sounds to me like the rest of you are irresponsible. KK > The fact that the first two infringements were for significant infractions, > then when disqualified he not only continued to drive, but to speed, no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > KK Well said. >> The fact that the first two infringements were for significant > infractions, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Well said. He drives a Magna LOL :-) > He drives a Magna LOL :-) Yeah, I do, big f.cking deal. Look at me everyone, I drive a 2000 TJ Magna. See Ron, no one gives a f.ck but you. I reckon you've written Magna more times than you have Jaguar in AUS.CARS. You and Pesty have so much in common......you should both go and rent a room. >> He drives a Magna LOL :-) > > Yeah, I do, big f.cking deal. Look at me everyone, I drive a 2000 TJ > Magna. See Ron, no one gives a f.ck but you. I reckon you've written > Magna more times than you have Jaguar in AUS.CARS. You and Pesty have > so much in common......you should both go and rent a room. No thank you! Sorry about the Magna :-) > Sorry about the Magna :-) No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a SBC to make 'em in to a real car. > > Sorry about the Magna :-) > > No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a SBC to > make 'em in to a real car. sadly that is untrue , the 8 tends to install to far back and destroys the natural handling of the Jag , mush better to add a blower or turbo and enjoy the ride > > > Sorry about the Magna :-) > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the natural handling of the Jag , mush better to add a blower or turbo > and enjoy the ride Shhhh, I'm stirring Ron here, I'm neither here nor there when it comes to a Jag 6 or SBC. "Ape Boy" <apesxxapes@yahoo.com.au> wrote in news:c0ag5r$qun$1 @gnamma.connect.com.au: >> Sorry about the Magna :-) > > No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a SBC to > make 'em in to a real car. Sorry the magna cannot take a SBC and make it a decent car. Guess you will just have to put up with a gutless engine and a lot of blue smoke. >> No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a SBC to >> make 'em in to a real car. > Sorry the magna cannot take a SBC and make it a decent car. Yeah, it needs a Toyota Crown chassis, Jag suspension front and rear _plus_ the SBC... Then, in spite of looking like a Magna, the NSW RTA will call it a 1967 Toyota Crown (chassis determines vehicle). SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. >>> No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a >>> SBC to make 'em in to a real car. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > _plus_ the SBC... Then, in spite of looking like a Magna, the NSW RTA > will call it a 1967 Toyota Crown (chassis determines vehicle). LOL. Athol, how did you get the Magna on a Tojo chassis? Cut the mono off it? Ron >> Yeah, it needs a Toyota Crown chassis, Jag suspension front and rear >> _plus_ the SBC... Then, in spite of looking like a Magna, the NSW RTA >> will call it a 1967 Toyota Crown (chassis determines vehicle). > Athol, how did you get the Magna on a Tojo chassis? > Cut the mono off it? Part of it have to be modified, but not as excessively as one might expect. You also need to realise that the chassis will have less ground clearance than a stock magna. The aim is to achieve the legal 100mm ground clearance while keeping the Magna at about stock ride height. I'm looking seriously at fitting airbag suspension to it. The XJ front end looks ideal for airbags - the bolt-in bottom plate under the coil spring makes things fairly easy. I've seen photos on the net of a Jag IRS with a single airbag per side - I don't like that, and would prefer to run 2 airbag-over-shocks per side to retain the load distribution within the suspension components. The airbags will allow me to have about 110mm ground clearance no matter how much load there is in the vehicle. Anybody know if any XJ series jags have been converted to airbag? SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > >> Yeah, it needs a Toyota Crown chassis, Jag suspension front and rear > >> _plus_ the SBC... Then, in spite of looking like a Magna, the NSW RTA [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > and would prefer to run 2 airbag-over-shocks per side to retain the > load distribution within the suspension components. Its been made very difficulty here in QLD re bags , none std cant be fitted into machines which didn't have the option so I suspect it might happen your way , do you think bags are better ?. > The airbags will allow me to have about 110mm ground clearance no > matter how much load there is in the vehicle. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Linux Registered User # 254000 > I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > Its been made very difficulty here in QLD re bags , none std cant be > fitted into machines which didn't have the option so I suspect it might > happen your way , do you think bags are better ?. I know exactly why airbags have been banned. I've seen bodgy airbag systems, complete with manual controls that allow the ride height to be set to anywhere you want. I've only certified one airbag car, and that was with airbag struts in the front and cylinders in the rear that directly replaced stock springs and retained dampers in the original locations. The car also had ride-height sensors that forced it up to legal height when the ignition was switched on. Obviously, the latter would only take a small change or two in the wiring to disable, and that is where the problem exists. I'd be proposing to QLD (or the RTA here if they tried the same stunt) that airbags be permitted provided that their height is controlled by a ride-height control valve as per all truck airbag systems. The ride-height control valve _always_ controls the air bag height, except for "traction dump" valves used with lazy axles, where the lazy axle's airbags can be dumped to increase load on the drive axle. Traction dumps are operated from a momentary action switch in the cabin, and releasing the button immediately returns the airbags to normal loadshare mode. The compressor should probably be required to operate automatically whenever the engine is running... I've also seen a Mercedes Benz truck with ride-height control valves with 3 positions electrically selectable from the cabin - that's what I'd like to use. The most impressive airbag installation I've ever seen is in the new "Varley" fire trucks (made at Tomago), which have 4 airbags, with a ride-height control valve at each bag. They are virtually a race car chassis with a fire truck on top - nothing like a conventional truck chassis! SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. athol <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:c0eehn$16gobh$1@ID-215292.news.uni- berlin.de: >>> Yeah, it needs a Toyota Crown chassis, Jag suspension front and rear >>> _plus_ the SBC... Then, in spite of looking like a Magna, the NSW RTA [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Anybody know if any XJ series jags have been converted to airbag? Athol, the XJ40 series had an airbag rear end, the current XJ350 has air all round. Yes, the older XJ rear ends that I have, have four springs for balance, with the shocks inside. They give a very good ride as is. As long as you mount the Jaguar front and rear suspension on with the rubber mounts, you will have a smooth quiet ride :-) Ron > Athol, the XJ40 series had an airbag rear end, the current XJ350 has air > all round. I'm specifically interested in the older XJs... > Yes, the older XJ rear ends that I have, have four springs for balance, > with the shocks inside. They give a very good ride as is. As long as > you mount the Jaguar front and rear suspension on with the rubber mounts, > you will have a smooth quiet ride :-) My concern is that I have to set up the chassis height at about 110mm, and the rule says "at any condition of loading". With air, I can set it up at 110 and know that it will always be there. With steel springs, I have to set up at about 130 or 140 to get 110 fully laden... It is a wagon, after all. SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. >> Athol, the XJ40 series had an airbag rear end, the current XJ350 has >> air all round. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > springs, I have to set up at about 130 or 140 to get 110 fully > laden... It is a wagon, after all. Athol, that is not a worry :-) The spring/shocky combo will adjust the height. i.e. a 420G has higher spring/skock than an XJ6 and has the same rear end. I'm sur you could even make an adjusting device between the lower bolt mount and the s/shock. Ron > Sorry the magna cannot take a SBC and make it a decent car. > Guess you will just have to put up with a gutless engine and a lot of blue > smoke. Incorrect on the smoke part and I have no interest in 'doing up' a daily driver. It's just a Magna that I use to get from here to there, not a poser machine that I want everyone to notice......and I paid a rock bottom price for it at the time. I don't choose cars according to what others may think, that's why Commodores were 5 to 7 grand more expensive at the time for basically the same thing. I'd rather spend that money on booze and women. >> Sorry the magna cannot take a SBC and make it a decent car. >> Guess you will just have to put up with a gutless engine and a lot of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > expensive at the time for basically the same thing. I'd rather spend > that money on booze and women. Well, that makes sense :-) >>> Sorry the magna cannot take a SBC and make it a decent car. >>> Guess you will just have to put up with a gutless engine and a lot of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Well, that makes sense :-) Certainly does Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. <snip>I'd rather spend > > that money on booze and women. I can understand a Magna could drive you to drink, but how do you get women with one? (sorry! Coudn't resist that one! LOL!) CKL ><snip>I'd rather spend >> > that money on booze and women. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >(sorry! Coudn't resist that one! LOL!) >CKL Hmmm smart women don't go for a guy because of his car...ya only need a job to get a car loan. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > I can understand a Magna could drive you to drink, but how do you get women > with one? > (sorry! Coudn't resist that one! LOL!) > CKL That actually made me laugh :-) One point for CKL. >That actually made me laugh :-) One point for CKL. Hey Apeman...how do you pull a bird with a pushbike? Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >> Sorry about the Magna :-) > No need to be. It's the Jags that need to be transplanted with a SBC to > make 'em in to a real car. Bzzt. The Magna needs that transplant too. :-) SignatureAthol <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000 I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss. > Bzzt. The Magna needs that transplant too. :-) Nah, I've taken mine to 180. Still had plenty left in it too. That's way more than enough for a daily driver. But if you wanna talk about the Torana I'll eventually build.....well..... >> He drives a Magna LOL :-) > > Yeah, I do, big f.cking deal. Look at me everyone, I drive a 2000 TJ > Magna. See Ron, no one gives a f.ck but you. I reckon you've written > Magna more times than you have Jaguar in AUS.CARS. You and Pesty have > so much in common......you should both go and rent a room. Oh and another thing, we would all leave the Magna alone if Serialpest stopped bagging Holdens all the time. Don't you find that annoying too? If you owned a Commodore, you probably would! Yes he bags Jaguars too, so what. Ron > Don't you find that annoying too? Not as much as the fact that you actually take the bait. Why do you think he bags Commodores all the time? Don't even give that turd the time of the day. He doesn't contribute to a good conversation, which I know YOU ARE capable of. Different opinion maybe but good conversation. Don't go to Pesty's level, he feeds on sh.t. >> Don't you find that annoying too? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I know YOU ARE capable of. Different opinion maybe but good > conversation. Don't go to Pesty's level, he feeds on sh.t. Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. >You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. About bloody time. I'm a little tired of you constant bagging of a car because it doesn't drop as much oil, or use as much petrol or break down as often as Jaguars. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >>You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >drop as much oil, or use as much petrol or break down as often as >Jaguars. Or rip up road surfaces with it's claws. Al 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. > You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. Or Commodore or Jaguar bashing from pesty either unless someone bloody replies to him. :-) -- Regards Dan. 00 VX SS beast. 93 VP Exec V6 project car, Dan--- <V8@v8.com.fakeaddress.com> wrote in news:4029C0E9.911CE3E3 @v8.com.fakeaddress.com: >> Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. >> You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 00 VX SS beast. > 93 VP Exec V6 project car, Yep :-) > >> Don't you find that annoying too? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. Hehe.. if people only got the diseases they deserved, serial would never have made it past embryo. It's worrying that two people actually set out to conceive him. oh well, they couldn't have known.... KK >> >> Don't you find that annoying too? >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > KK That is indeed true :-) Thank god none of my kids are like him. Ron >Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. >You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. Magna - Jagna - what's the difference? Al :-) 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > >Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. > >You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. > > Magna - Jagna - what's the difference? > > Al :-) quite a bit idiot , ones driven from the right end , the other the front. bloody 4wd dicjheads ... no fecking idea.. > 2004 insult page awaits your contribution > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > bloody 4wd dicjheads ... no fecking idea.. True!! Al 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >>bloody 4wd dicjheads ... no fecking idea.. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 2004 insult page awaits your contribution > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html Very. >>Never mind, I have killfiled him since the cancer remark. >>You won't hear much about Magna's from me again. > >Magna - Jagna - what's the difference? > >Al :-) Magnas keep running! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. >Magnas keep running! Possibly lack of Lucas electrics. I do like the bodies on the Jags, always have. Pity about the rest. Al 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html . Different opinion maybe but good conversation. Don't go to > Pesty's level, he feeds on sh.t. I guess most of us regulars including me subconsciously went to pesty's level. Hopefully aus.cars will pick up again with less bullshit trolling. :-) -- Regards Dan. 00 VX SS beast. 93 VP Exec V6 project car, > . Different opinion maybe but good conversation. Don't go to >> Pesty's level, he feeds on sh.t. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 00 VX SS beast. > 93 VP Exec V6 project car, Yep, I'm out of there :-) Serial who? Ron 74 XJ6 70 420G 74 DS420 Project car 74 XJ6L Parts car 85 Suzi tool box 85 Mazda A-round-tuit for Daughter 02 Falcon SR Wifes car 97 MTD SP Mower 54 Austral Villiers Roller Mower plus two XJ6 motors H'm how many plugs in that lot! > 74 XJ6 > 70 420G > 74 DS420 Project car > 74 XJ6L Parts car > plus two XJ6 motors Jesus! Now, there's someone who loves to inflict pain on themselves and their family :) Regards, Noddy. > > 74 XJ6 > > 70 420G [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jesus! Yes ? > Now, there's someone who loves to inflict pain on themselves and their > family :) your clue less. > Regards, > Noddy. >> 74 XJ6 >> 70 420G [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Now, there's someone who loves to inflict pain on themselves and their >family :) Was thinking along the lines that he could make some sort of mechanical horror movie. Titles: Jags, Return of the Jags, Revenge of the Jags, A Jag took my baby, Son of Jagenstien's monster, Jagwaah but now it's better since I name it Catwaah. My mick was Jagged once by a man with a spiked cock. It doesn't make sense to me either, if it does to you please explain it to me. Actually that last one probably wasn't the best title for a horror movie. Al 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html > My mick was Jagged once by a man with a spiked cock. MM I always knew you were a very sick boy , and don't bother telling us about how or why you sat on one of those. > 2004 insult page awaits your contribution > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> My mick was Jagged once by a man with a spiked cock. > >MM I always knew you were a very sick boy , and don't bother telling us >about how or why you sat on one of those. Nabbed that from an old joke told to me about 30 years ago. Al :-) 2004 insult page awaits your contribution http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html >> 74 XJ6 >> 70 420G [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. Only me :-) However the wife loves driving the Jags. my brother is a dick. we are not irresponsible. we did all we could to stop him from driving - but in the end it was his choice to keep driving. how could we stop him if a $1500 fine didnt stop him? > > hi all > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > KK > my brother is a dick. > > we are not irresponsible. we did all we could to stop him from driving - but > in the end it was his choice to keep driving. > > how could we stop him if a $1500 fine didnt stop him? Take his keys, if that fails, report him to the police. From the offences he's committed, and disregard for the punishments handed out to him, he's probably an unsafe or even dangerous driver. What do you prefer? That he's pissed off at you for a while, or that he's potentially dead through his own stupidity, or worse, has killed someone else? It may seem harsh, but he's quite clearly the sort of driver we don't need on our roads. KK | my brother is a dick. A Mr. Thick, I'd say. | we are not irresponsible. we did all we could to stop him from driving - but | in the end it was his choice to keep driving. | | how could we stop him if a $1500 fine didnt stop him? He hadn't even paid the $1500 fine before he committed a further offence, this time with a disqualified license. The fine didn't register in Mr. Thick's brain so he continued to behave badly. The NSW police can impound your car for doing a burnout. Why can't they confiscate the cars of people like Mr. Thick ? Fritz | > > hi all | > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] | > | > KK > The NSW police can impound your car for doing a burnout. > Why can't they confiscate the cars of people like Mr. Thick ? Don't be silly, there aren't any votes in that :-) -- Michael Culley You hear about this sort of twit on the police radio every day. Driving while unlicensed leads to further suspensions, and further suspensions and further........ (you get the idea). And fines. In the end, they don't even bother trying to get their license back. They just keep on driving. Heard one this week where the guy was pulled over for something, and was unlicensed. He could have gotten his license back a couple of years ago, but had not bothered because he just thought he would loose it again. There have been several this week where a car fails to pull over, leading to a short pursuit, followed by the driver 'decamping'. Both unlicensed drivers, driving cars registered to themselves!!!! One policeman summed it up nicely. 'Let's tow his car back to the station, and he can come and ask for it back!' BTW, in Victoria, there seems to be a law about failing to follow directions given by a police officer. This is what they charge you with if you don't stop when told to pull over. Rob. > my brother is a dick. > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > KK > my brother is a dick. > > we are not irresponsible. we did all we could to stop him from driving - but > in the end it was his choice to keep driving. > > how could we stop him if a $1500 fine didnt stop him? Try kneecapping the fool or break both his arms. > > hi all > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > disqualified??? He's a dick, sounds to me like the rest of you are > irresponsible. Thats a bit harsh, what are they supposed to do, physically restrain him and risk getting charged with assault? Its all down to the brother, its wrong to blame anyone else. Daryl >> > hi all >> > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >and risk getting charged with assault? >Its all down to the brother, its wrong to blame anyone else. I rekon the nazi prolly already had his mother locked up. Hopefully a custodial sentence where he is Bubba's Baitch and he learns to behave on the road. People like this end up killing others through stupidity... Can your parents collar him & talk some sense or is this genetic? Jock | hi all | [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] | | thanks all for any info. > he is going to court because he hasnt paid for his #2. > How much does court cost? $61 (NSW) - if pleading guilty. > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at 15km/h over > in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? Drive while license suspended == *VERY* big trouble with *VERY* bad juju. He will need some very good character references, and some very good legal representation.I don't think anyone would expect a magistrate to give a good behaviour bond with that though. Somewhere in his travels, around when he lost his license, he missed out on the "learning" part. > my brother lost his license last november for > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? Tell him that Big Bubba's dick isn't as big as they say it is. It's really only 8" long. and just as wide... SignatureRegards, Renegade > > my brother lost his license last november for > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Tell him that Big Bubba's dick isn't as big as they say it is. It's really > only 8" long. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info. Apart from the bleeding obvious defect in his genetics I suspect the only option he has is to surrender his permit to the judge. Speak to a lawyer and read up on the implications of a volutnary surrender. It is a pretty good way to have the case terminated. > hi all > my brother lost his license last november for > 1) 25km/h over limit > 2) 61km/h over limit > 3)? > and he is a red P plater... This _has_ to be a TROLL folks!! Give him a Medal and a drive in the Young Lions. HSV could use his talents. He's toast and going to weekend detention with Renee. You never know, they could become best of 'cell' m8's and end up as his Chauffeur!! NEXT! HTH elZee > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > thanks all for any info. I reckon ya mum should have put down the whole litter. SignatureRegards ........ Rheilly Phoull >hi all > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >thanks all for any info. Tell him to take a toothbrush when he goes to court..Weekend detention is a good way to save money. Oh and a tube of lube might ease him thru! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. > Tell him to take a toothbrush when he goes to court..Weekend detention > is a good way to save money. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Just lots of lube :) They might like a new soap buddy :) scott > Just lots of lube :) They might like a new soap buddy :) Perhaps he's afraid to come out of the closet, and this was the plan all along. > my brother lost his license last november for > 1) 25km/h over limit > 2) 61km/h over limit [...] > fine number #4 has arrived in the mail which is from a camera at > 15km/h over in december -- while his license is suspended... They did us all a favour by suspending his licence. It sounds like he's an incredibly slow learner, too. J. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > and he is a red P plater... No, he is unlicenced > so all up he has lost it for 9 months. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in december -- while his license is suspended... what will happen to this? > goto court again? bigger fine? He'd better get a lawyer, son. He'd better get a good one. -- Conehead > > and he is a red P plater... > No, he is unlicenced Incorrect. He has a provisional licence. It's not legal to drive on public roads if you're unlicenced. J. > hi all > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > and he is a red P plater... <snip> What is a red P plater? I've seen green P Plates from NSW around and never knew the difference. Only ever seen red ones here in Vic, and in Perth. CKL > What is a red P plater? I've seen green P Plates from NSW around and never > knew the difference. Only ever seen red ones here in Vic, and in Perth. > CKL http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/novice_driver_l_and_p_plates.html |
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