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Michael C - 04 May 2008 07:26 GMT
Quick question, are these any good?

"Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio"
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi
temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Thanks,
Michael
atec77 - 04 May 2008 07:37 GMT
> Quick question, are these any good?
>
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> Thanks,
> Michael

you get what you pay for , they work
Michael C - 04 May 2008 07:53 GMT
> you get what you pay for , they work

Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one
doesn't?

Michael
atec77 - 04 May 2008 08:37 GMT
>> you get what you pay for , they work
>
> Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one
> doesn't?
>
> Michael

Better transmitted clarity but most importantly if your in a close
situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more
than me ( both have ham tickets though)
Scotty - 04 May 2008 09:14 GMT
: >> you get what you pay for , they work
: >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more
: than me ( both have ham tickets though)

Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios?

And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all?
atec77 - 04 May 2008 11:22 GMT
> : >> you get what you pay for , they work
> : >
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>
> Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios?
 I wont answer that and you should be ashamed in asking

> And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all?
 we are negotiating
Scotty - 04 May 2008 11:33 GMT
: > : >> you get what you pay for , they work
: > : >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
: > Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios?
:  I wont answer that and you should be ashamed in asking

I dont shame easily ;o)

: > And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all?
:  we are negotiating

Did you get a sample at all? If so is it any good for you?
atec77 - 04 May 2008 15:01 GMT
> : > : >> you get what you pay for , they work
> : > : >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> I dont shame easily ;o)
 you should in this case at it was the jammiest of jokes

> : > And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all?
> :  we are negotiating
>
> Did you get a sample at all? If so is it any good for you?
 It wont work well as is , need actual conversion to bio, bloody stuff
has huge volumes of everything nasty from the cooking and the worst
thing is it will be in the meat products when served
 I bought some 20 litre drums of cooking oil from Campbells at coopers
plains . runs pretty well with the boost turned up and is cheaper than
commercial fuel
Kev - 04 May 2008 11:01 GMT
>>> you get what you pay for , they work
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more
> than me ( both have ham tickets though)

Uniden don't think selectivity should be a feature of their new small
radios so they leave it out
in any high RF area(such as any city or mountain top) you will hear
every signal in the UHF band, that includes all the data signals used by
trunking systems and taxis etc.
and you WON'T be able to squelch it out

their transmitted audio is also awful, usually very muffled and too harsh

GME radios are Australian made and have much better selectivity(though
if you drive close enough to Optus TV Cables you can hear the audio of
one of the channels on CB CH14)

get a GME first
then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts
as it will only last a few months)
and as a very last resort get a Uniden
the larger Uniden radios(UH088, UH100 and the newer I think UH095) are
not so bad with selectivity
but their audio is still crap

Kev
ReSiN8oR - 04 May 2008 15:15 GMT
>>>> you get what you pay for , they work
>>>
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>
> Kev

Spot on.
atec77 - 04 May 2008 15:19 GMT
>>>>> you get what you pay for , they work
>>>>
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>>
> Spot on.
Uniden where an ok radio 30 years ago when 27 gigglenerrys was wide open
 , frankly I play with other bands these days
Michael C - 05 May 2008 02:54 GMT
>> get a GME first
>> then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts as
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
> Spot on.

Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular model
I should get?

Cheers,
Michael
Klompmeester - 06 May 2008 23:25 GMT
>>> get a GME first
>>> then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular
> model I should get?

As I said, this is the one I use with good results;

http://tinyurl.com/qxlm8

but look around the site to check out something that suits you.

Don't skimp on the antenna setup either, the better the antenna the better
the results.
John_H - 06 May 2008 23:40 GMT
>Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular model
>I should get?

TX4400 if you want squelch control... those without it are a pain in
the arse in a lot of situations.

Here's where I bought the last one (can recommend the prompt service
and the price)....  http://www.prestigecom.net.au/

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Jason James - 05 May 2008 21:30 GMT
> >>> you get what you pay for , they work
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> trunking systems and taxis etc.
> and you WON'T be able to squelch it out

In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at sufficient
low-level, frequencies from sites such as TV and BCast transmitters getting
thru your RX frontend and creating a myriad of crap in the first osc/mixer.
Then you have the passive mixers where interfering frequencies are generated
in a local tower, or  someone's unfiltered TX PA stage for example, are
spewed into the atmosphere right within your operating band/s.
If I was operating on UHF CB in my car, I would install a cavity resonator
between the aerial and TXRX with sufficient Q or bandpass, to handle the
channels. They aren't cheap, but they work very well. Insertion loss is
usually less than 2db. That'swhat we used at workforfrew multiplexing into
one AE all our Txs, and similarly, the RXs. Quality double shielded co-ax is
also a worthwhile addition if RFInterference is a major prob.

Jason

> their transmitted audio is also awful, usually very muffled and too harsh
>
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>
> Kev
Michael C - 05 May 2008 23:56 GMT
> In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at
> sufficient
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> is
> also a worthwhile addition if RFInterference is a major prob.

Exactly what I was going to say ;-)))) It all seems so simple when you put
it like that ;-))

Michael
mathewm@sNOSPAMdf.lonestar.org - 07 May 2008 11:45 GMT
> In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at sufficient
> low-level, frequencies from sites such as TV and BCast transmitters getting
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jason

That's serious overkill for all but the most extreme QRM situations in a
mobile install. I can't say I've ever experienced anything to justify
those sorts of measures on CB, even in the Sydney CBD, but I use a radio
with a pretty good receiver (Motorola ASTRO Digital Spectra.)
jonz - 04 May 2008 08:45 GMT
>> you get what you pay for , they work
>
> Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one
> doesn't?

  uniden is pretty good...handy package..go for it.

> Michael

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ReSiN8oR - 04 May 2008 15:17 GMT
>>> you get what you pay for , they work
>>
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>>
>> Michael

No. Read Kev's post. Uniden isn't very good. I own numerous uniden
products, and bar two (maybe 3) of the scanners I own, most Uniden
products make good doorstops and paperweights.

Go GME anytime over Uniden when it comes to CBs.
jonz - 05 May 2008 00:25 GMT
>>>> you get what you pay for , they work
>>>
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> products, and bar two (maybe 3) of the scanners I own, most Uniden
> products make good doorstops and paperweights.

    i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he
got mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ??

> Go GME anytime over Uniden when it comes to CBs.

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Michael C - 05 May 2008 02:52 GMT
>     i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he got
> mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ??

I think Dlink are absolute crap and would never even consider one of their
products again. Unfortunately I have several of them still.

Michael
jonz - 05 May 2008 04:29 GMT
>>     i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he got
>> mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ??
>
> I think Dlink are absolute crap and would never even consider one of their
> products again. Unfortunately I have several of them still.

   must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH.....

> Michael

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Michael C - 05 May 2008 04:49 GMT
>    must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH.....

Well they are useful when they work. The problem is they have a really
really really bad habit of just plain stopping working. Either the power
supply drops dead or the unit itself drops dead. I had a customer whose
dlink router died, I bought a linksys to replace it. When I was installing
the linksys router I had to unplug their dlink wireless box from the wall.
When I plugged the wireless back it it just didn't come back on. I had to
charge them for a new wireless box as well and while they paid no worries it
was very embaressing. I've had no end of dlink crap just stop working on me.
Recently I had to unplug my dlink router from the wall and joked to my
girlfriend that there was a 50:50 chance of it working when I plugged it
back in. It didn't work and I had to run down to jaycar to get a new power
supply. I reckon I've sold 30 dlink products and easily 15 would have died
within the first 2 years. Most of them die outside of warranty.

I sold a dlink router to a guy who says he's got 14 remote locations which
all need to have the same dlink router so they can talk to each other. With
14 locations he likes to keep 3 or 4 routers spare for when they pop. This
happens every 4 to 8 weeks.

Then you've got the problem that when they don't die they don't always work
that well. I don't use wireless at home very often but when I do I reckon
there's less than a 50% chance of getting a connection and that's when I'm 5
feet from the box. I have to hard reset it and set everything up again
because it keeps corupting its settings. Now my dlink crap router has
stopped giving out IP addresses from time to time and needs to be turned off
and on to get onto the internet.

Anyway, after all the ranting, my point is that it took a while to work out
that dlink are crap because at first you think it's just standard failures.
It takes a while to realise the eventually the vast majority of the stuff
fails. What I'm trying to say is it's quite possible to have a lot of a
certain brand of equipement and know it's crap. That makes them the most
qualified to comment IMO :-)

>> Michael
jonz - 05 May 2008 10:33 GMT
>>    must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH.....
>
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> certain brand of equipement and know it's crap. That makes them the most
> qualified to comment IMO :-)

   hmmm, well i use an *ancient* 504g router, works fine.......but then
i dont feel the need to push the envelope........

>>> Michael

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ReSiN8oR - 05 May 2008 09:04 GMT
>     i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he
> got mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ??

The scanners are good, in fact all my scanners are Uniden, but both CBs,
AM and UHF are quite mediocre compared to the competition, lots of
splatter and intermod on the UHF   anywhere near strong signals on
adjacent frequencies, and thankfully were both bought second hand so not
a great concern. Cordless phone seemed a bargain compared to similar
models i looked at at the time... And the list goes on.

And Uniden have the worst customer service of any company i know. Good
service department though.

I'm not saying they are bad products, I just know there are better
products for the money compared to what I purchased in a lot of
circumstances.

I'll be a bit more wary buying one of their products (scanners excluded)
next time.

Cheers
Adam
Klompmeester - 04 May 2008 08:51 GMT
> Quick question, are these any good?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Michael

I'm no expert but I used to sell Uniden ones and quite a few people who had
some experience with CB's specifically _didn't_ want them.

GME make a good UHF CB, the remote face unit I use http://tinyurl.com/qxlm8 
works the best out of the three units I own, one of which is a (admittedly
older model) Uniden.
Michael C - 04 May 2008 10:13 GMT
> Quick question, are these any good?
>
> "Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio"
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi
temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There's some not too bright people on ebay. This unit is going for $290 inc
postage and is 2 years old.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-Radio-UH015sx-40ch-UHF-60ch-Scanner_W0QQitemZ12025
3981591QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


you can get the same thing for $308 inc postage which is brand new with
receipt and 2 year warranty:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/UNIDEN-UH015SX-UHF-CB-WITH-BUILT-IN-SCANNER-NEW_W0QQitemZ
260235974755QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Michael
Jeßus - 05 May 2008 03:25 GMT
> Quick question, are these any good?
>
> "Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio"
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi
temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Depends on what your criteria is?

The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs
(IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price?

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Michael C - 05 May 2008 04:50 GMT
> Depends on what your criteria is?
>
> The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs
> (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price?

I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500.

Michael
Jeßus - 05 May 2008 05:09 GMT
>> Depends on what your criteria is?
>>
>> The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs
>> (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price?
>
> I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500.

Many options at that price.

If you want something really robust and don't mind 2nd hand, you can get
a Motorola Syntrx programmed for UHF CB. All the controls are located on
the mic and the unit is tough as nails. The speaker is also external to
the main body. You could probably drive over the radio and odds are
it'll still work.

These are commercial quality and the specifications are much higher than
any GME or Uniden... also designed to put out 5 times the power, which
means at 5 watts (max. legal UHF CB power) they'll hardly break a sweat.
Or - you could wind up the power of course...

On the negative side, they're getting on in years and cannot be bought
new. For some people this is a problem, for others not so.
I've owned a few (and still own one) over the past 18 years and they're
very reliable.

They're also idiot-proof in terms of use and can be found on eBay for
$80-$150. There are a few good regular sellers on there who specialise
in these units.

Anyway, that is just one option.

Up to the $500 price range, you also have choices from Icom, Kenwood,
Philips/Simoco etc etc.

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Kev - 08 May 2008 15:33 GMT
>>> Depends on what your criteria is?
>>>
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> Up to the $500 price range, you also have choices from Icom, Kenwood,
> Philips/Simoco etc etc.

The problem with the Syntrx is that when the mic cord gives up they are
had to find(near impossible) a replacement or quite expensive to have
repaired and you'd have to look at getting the Syntrx Plus for ease of
programming
and yes for $500 you can get hold of a good Kenwood TK860G or TK880G(or
a TK830 up to 100 watts)
Simoco 8038 or a Tait T2020(the Taits are very overpriced anywhere other
than Brisbane, they sell for around $400 in Sydney etc but up here you
can get them for $200) I've owned all of these(still have the 860G), the
Taits are nothing special(WOW you can have words in the screen)but seem
to be tough enough and have a remote head option as does the Simoco 80
series, the 8030 and 8038 Simoco can also have a full controller mic option
not really sure of a good Icom, the IC-2010(limited channels) or maybe
an IC-F410, the 400Pro is ok for a CB but it is not, as many first
thought, Commercial quality(don't last set at 25 watts), but they have
good selectivity and are cheap enough
then there are Motorola radios
plenty of models to choose from here, excellent quality but can be a
bugger to program if you don't have the right software(what a nightmare
this is if you've never used their software before) or cables

the thing to watch with Commercial radios is to make sure you get a
radio with the freq band that CB operates on, plenty of radios on EBay
that are no where near CB band, put there by people who bought them
thinking that because it was a "Motorola UHF" that it was automatically
a CB when in fact it was a low band UHF trunking radio or even 800Mhz

also bear in mid that all these commercial radios will be second hand,
They normally sell for over $1000 new and some Motorola for a couple of
thousand

GME also make a commercial(two actually) the TX3600(5watt) and the
TX3800(25watt) both the same radio and software but one has more power
and both are very small
the TX3440 has the controller mic, everything is on the mic and the
radio is hidden away under the dash or seat

Kev
Klompmeester - 05 May 2008 10:21 GMT
>> Depends on what your criteria is?
>>
>> The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs
>> (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price?
>
> I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500.

That should get you a GME unit.
ReSiN8oR - 05 May 2008 13:37 GMT
>>> Depends on what your criteria is?
>>>
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>
> That should get you a GME unit.

And a good quality antenna, base and coax are just as important
Klompmeester - 05 May 2008 23:01 GMT
Klompmeester wrote:
>>> Depends on what your criteria is?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That should get you a GME unit.

And a good quality antenna, base and coax are just as important

True.
Kev - 08 May 2008 17:15 GMT
> Quick question, are these any good?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Michael

here are two going cheap
nice radios too
http://www.vhq07.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293

Kev
 
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