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Michael C - 04 May 2008 07:26 GMT Quick question, are these any good?
"Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio" http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Thanks, Michael
atec77 - 04 May 2008 07:37 GMT > Quick question, are these any good? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Michael you get what you pay for , they work
Michael C - 04 May 2008 07:53 GMT > you get what you pay for , they work Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one doesn't?
Michael
atec77 - 04 May 2008 08:37 GMT >> you get what you pay for , they work > > Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one > doesn't? > > Michael Better transmitted clarity but most importantly if your in a close situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more than me ( both have ham tickets though)
Scotty - 04 May 2008 09:14 GMT : >> you get what you pay for , they work : > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more : than me ( both have ham tickets though) Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios?
And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all?
atec77 - 04 May 2008 11:22 GMT > : >> you get what you pay for , they work > : > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios? I wont answer that and you should be ashamed in asking
> And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all? we are negotiating
Scotty - 04 May 2008 11:33 GMT : > : >> you get what you pay for , they work : > : > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : > Out of curiousity Atec, are Jew's allowed to use Ham radios? : I wont answer that and you should be ashamed in asking I dont shame easily ;o)
: > And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all? : we are negotiating Did you get a sample at all? If so is it any good for you?
atec77 - 04 May 2008 15:01 GMT > : > : >> you get what you pay for , they work > : > : > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I dont shame easily ;o) you should in this case at it was the jammiest of jokes
> : > And did you get hold of that place for the used oil at all? > : we are negotiating > > Did you get a sample at all? If so is it any good for you? It wont work well as is , need actual conversion to bio, bloody stuff has huge volumes of everything nasty from the cooking and the worst thing is it will be in the meat products when served I bought some 20 litre drums of cooking oil from Campbells at coopers plains . runs pretty well with the boost turned up and is cheaper than commercial fuel
Kev - 04 May 2008 11:01 GMT >>> you get what you pay for , they work >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > situation have better selectivity , ask kev as I think he uses them more > than me ( both have ham tickets though) Uniden don't think selectivity should be a feature of their new small radios so they leave it out in any high RF area(such as any city or mountain top) you will hear every signal in the UHF band, that includes all the data signals used by trunking systems and taxis etc. and you WON'T be able to squelch it out
their transmitted audio is also awful, usually very muffled and too harsh
GME radios are Australian made and have much better selectivity(though if you drive close enough to Optus TV Cables you can hear the audio of one of the channels on CB CH14)
get a GME first then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts as it will only last a few months) and as a very last resort get a Uniden the larger Uniden radios(UH088, UH100 and the newer I think UH095) are not so bad with selectivity but their audio is still crap
Kev
ReSiN8oR - 04 May 2008 15:15 GMT >>>> you get what you pay for , they work >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Kev Spot on.
atec77 - 04 May 2008 15:19 GMT >>>>> you get what you pay for , they work >>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> > Spot on. Uniden where an ok radio 30 years ago when 27 gigglenerrys was wide open , frankly I play with other bands these days
Michael C - 05 May 2008 02:54 GMT >> get a GME first >> then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts as [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> > Spot on. Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular model I should get?
Cheers, Michael
Klompmeester - 06 May 2008 23:25 GMT >>> get a GME first >>> then one of those crappy Icom 400PRO(but do not bump it up to 25 watts [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular > model I should get? As I said, this is the one I use with good results;
http://tinyurl.com/qxlm8
but look around the site to check out something that suits you.
Don't skimp on the antenna setup either, the better the antenna the better the results.
John_H - 06 May 2008 23:40 GMT >Thanks for the tips guys, I'll get myself a GME. Is there a particular model >I should get? TX4400 if you want squelch control... those without it are a pain in the arse in a lot of situations.
Here's where I bought the last one (can recommend the prompt service and the price).... http://www.prestigecom.net.au/
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Jason James - 05 May 2008 21:30 GMT > >>> you get what you pay for , they work > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > trunking systems and taxis etc. > and you WON'T be able to squelch it out In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at sufficient low-level, frequencies from sites such as TV and BCast transmitters getting thru your RX frontend and creating a myriad of crap in the first osc/mixer. Then you have the passive mixers where interfering frequencies are generated in a local tower, or someone's unfiltered TX PA stage for example, are spewed into the atmosphere right within your operating band/s. If I was operating on UHF CB in my car, I would install a cavity resonator between the aerial and TXRX with sufficient Q or bandpass, to handle the channels. They aren't cheap, but they work very well. Insertion loss is usually less than 2db. That'swhat we used at workforfrew multiplexing into one AE all our Txs, and similarly, the RXs. Quality double shielded co-ax is also a worthwhile addition if RFInterference is a major prob.
Jason
> their transmitted audio is also awful, usually very muffled and too harsh > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kev Michael C - 05 May 2008 23:56 GMT > In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at > sufficient [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > is > also a worthwhile addition if RFInterference is a major prob. Exactly what I was going to say ;-)))) It all seems so simple when you put it like that ;-))
Michael
mathewm@sNOSPAMdf.lonestar.org - 07 May 2008 11:45 GMT > In very high RF fields, even a cavity resonator does not keep at sufficient > low-level, frequencies from sites such as TV and BCast transmitters getting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jason That's serious overkill for all but the most extreme QRM situations in a mobile install. I can't say I've ever experienced anything to justify those sorts of measures on CB, even in the Sydney CBD, but I use a radio with a pretty good receiver (Motorola ASTRO Digital Spectra.)
jonz - 04 May 2008 08:45 GMT >> you get what you pay for , they work > > Thanks for the reply. What would a more expensive model do that this one > doesn't? uniden is pretty good...handy package..go for it.
> Michael
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ReSiN8oR - 04 May 2008 15:17 GMT >>> you get what you pay for , they work >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Michael No. Read Kev's post. Uniden isn't very good. I own numerous uniden products, and bar two (maybe 3) of the scanners I own, most Uniden products make good doorstops and paperweights.
Go GME anytime over Uniden when it comes to CBs.
jonz - 05 May 2008 00:25 GMT >>>> you get what you pay for , they work >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > products, and bar two (maybe 3) of the scanners I own, most Uniden > products make good doorstops and paperweights. i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he got mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ??
> Go GME anytime over Uniden when it comes to CBs.
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Michael C - 05 May 2008 02:52 GMT > i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he got > mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ?? I think Dlink are absolute crap and would never even consider one of their products again. Unfortunately I have several of them still.
Michael
jonz - 05 May 2008 04:29 GMT >> i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he got >> mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ?? > > I think Dlink are absolute crap and would never even consider one of their > products again. Unfortunately I have several of them still. must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH.....
> Michael
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Michael C - 05 May 2008 04:49 GMT > must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH..... Well they are useful when they work. The problem is they have a really really really bad habit of just plain stopping working. Either the power supply drops dead or the unit itself drops dead. I had a customer whose dlink router died, I bought a linksys to replace it. When I was installing the linksys router I had to unplug their dlink wireless box from the wall. When I plugged the wireless back it it just didn't come back on. I had to charge them for a new wireless box as well and while they paid no worries it was very embaressing. I've had no end of dlink crap just stop working on me. Recently I had to unplug my dlink router from the wall and joked to my girlfriend that there was a 50:50 chance of it working when I plugged it back in. It didn't work and I had to run down to jaycar to get a new power supply. I reckon I've sold 30 dlink products and easily 15 would have died within the first 2 years. Most of them die outside of warranty.
I sold a dlink router to a guy who says he's got 14 remote locations which all need to have the same dlink router so they can talk to each other. With 14 locations he likes to keep 3 or 4 routers spare for when they pop. This happens every 4 to 8 weeks.
Then you've got the problem that when they don't die they don't always work that well. I don't use wireless at home very often but when I do I reckon there's less than a 50% chance of getting a connection and that's when I'm 5 feet from the box. I have to hard reset it and set everything up again because it keeps corupting its settings. Now my dlink crap router has stopped giving out IP addresses from time to time and needs to be turned off and on to get onto the internet.
Anyway, after all the ranting, my point is that it took a while to work out that dlink are crap because at first you think it's just standard failures. It takes a while to realise the eventually the vast majority of the stuff fails. What I'm trying to say is it's quite possible to have a lot of a certain brand of equipement and know it's crap. That makes them the most qualified to comment IMO :-)
>> Michael jonz - 05 May 2008 10:33 GMT >> must be *useful* absolute crap then ??? DOH..... > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > certain brand of equipement and know it's crap. That makes them the most > qualified to comment IMO :-) hmmm, well i use an *ancient* 504g router, works fine.......but then i dont feel the need to push the envelope........
>>> Michael
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ReSiN8oR - 05 May 2008 09:04 GMT > i own a couple, and find them ok...the bloke asked for OPINION, he > got mine...BTW,if Uniden is such crap....why do you have so much of it ?? The scanners are good, in fact all my scanners are Uniden, but both CBs, AM and UHF are quite mediocre compared to the competition, lots of splatter and intermod on the UHF anywhere near strong signals on adjacent frequencies, and thankfully were both bought second hand so not a great concern. Cordless phone seemed a bargain compared to similar models i looked at at the time... And the list goes on.
And Uniden have the worst customer service of any company i know. Good service department though.
I'm not saying they are bad products, I just know there are better products for the money compared to what I purchased in a lot of circumstances.
I'll be a bit more wary buying one of their products (scanners excluded) next time.
Cheers Adam
Klompmeester - 04 May 2008 08:51 GMT > Quick question, are these any good? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Michael I'm no expert but I used to sell Uniden ones and quite a few people who had some experience with CB's specifically _didn't_ want them.
GME make a good UHF CB, the remote face unit I use http://tinyurl.com/qxlm8 works the best out of the three units I own, one of which is a (admittedly older model) Uniden.
Michael C - 04 May 2008 10:13 GMT > Quick question, are these any good? > > "Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio" > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem There's some not too bright people on ebay. This unit is going for $290 inc postage and is 2 years old.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-Radio-UH015sx-40ch-UHF-60ch-Scanner_W0QQitemZ12025 3981591QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
you can get the same thing for $308 inc postage which is brand new with receipt and 2 year warranty:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/UNIDEN-UH015SX-UHF-CB-WITH-BUILT-IN-SCANNER-NEW_W0QQitemZ 260235974755QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Michael
Jeßus - 05 May 2008 03:25 GMT > Quick question, are these any good? > > "Uniden UH015SX 5 Watts UHF Remote Head Radio" > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Uniden-UH015SX-5-Watts-UHF-Remote-Head-Radio-LATEST_W0QQi temZ200220693808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Depends on what your criteria is?
The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price?
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Michael C - 05 May 2008 04:50 GMT > Depends on what your criteria is? > > The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs > (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price? I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500.
Michael
Jeßus - 05 May 2008 05:09 GMT >> Depends on what your criteria is? >> >> The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs >> (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price? > > I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500. Many options at that price.
If you want something really robust and don't mind 2nd hand, you can get a Motorola Syntrx programmed for UHF CB. All the controls are located on the mic and the unit is tough as nails. The speaker is also external to the main body. You could probably drive over the radio and odds are it'll still work.
These are commercial quality and the specifications are much higher than any GME or Uniden... also designed to put out 5 times the power, which means at 5 watts (max. legal UHF CB power) they'll hardly break a sweat. Or - you could wind up the power of course...
On the negative side, they're getting on in years and cannot be bought new. For some people this is a problem, for others not so. I've owned a few (and still own one) over the past 18 years and they're very reliable.
They're also idiot-proof in terms of use and can be found on eBay for $80-$150. There are a few good regular sellers on there who specialise in these units.
Anyway, that is just one option.
Up to the $500 price range, you also have choices from Icom, Kenwood, Philips/Simoco etc etc.
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Kev - 08 May 2008 15:33 GMT >>> Depends on what your criteria is? >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Up to the $500 price range, you also have choices from Icom, Kenwood, > Philips/Simoco etc etc. The problem with the Syntrx is that when the mic cord gives up they are had to find(near impossible) a replacement or quite expensive to have repaired and you'd have to look at getting the Syntrx Plus for ease of programming and yes for $500 you can get hold of a good Kenwood TK860G or TK880G(or a TK830 up to 100 watts) Simoco 8038 or a Tait T2020(the Taits are very overpriced anywhere other than Brisbane, they sell for around $400 in Sydney etc but up here you can get them for $200) I've owned all of these(still have the 860G), the Taits are nothing special(WOW you can have words in the screen)but seem to be tough enough and have a remote head option as does the Simoco 80 series, the 8030 and 8038 Simoco can also have a full controller mic option not really sure of a good Icom, the IC-2010(limited channels) or maybe an IC-F410, the 400Pro is ok for a CB but it is not, as many first thought, Commercial quality(don't last set at 25 watts), but they have good selectivity and are cheap enough then there are Motorola radios plenty of models to choose from here, excellent quality but can be a bugger to program if you don't have the right software(what a nightmare this is if you've never used their software before) or cables
the thing to watch with Commercial radios is to make sure you get a radio with the freq band that CB operates on, plenty of radios on EBay that are no where near CB band, put there by people who bought them thinking that because it was a "Motorola UHF" that it was automatically a CB when in fact it was a low band UHF trunking radio or even 800Mhz
also bear in mid that all these commercial radios will be second hand, They normally sell for over $1000 new and some Motorola for a couple of thousand
GME also make a commercial(two actually) the TX3600(5watt) and the TX3800(25watt) both the same radio and software but one has more power and both are very small the TX3440 has the controller mic, everything is on the mic and the radio is hidden away under the dash or seat
Kev
Klompmeester - 05 May 2008 10:21 GMT >> Depends on what your criteria is? >> >> The best rig in terms of durability, flexibility/options, power, specs >> (IMO it is none of those). Or just good for the price? > > I just need it for 4WD weekends. I'm happy to spend up to $500. That should get you a GME unit.
ReSiN8oR - 05 May 2008 13:37 GMT >>> Depends on what your criteria is? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That should get you a GME unit. And a good quality antenna, base and coax are just as important
Klompmeester - 05 May 2008 23:01 GMT Klompmeester wrote:
>>> Depends on what your criteria is? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That should get you a GME unit. And a good quality antenna, base and coax are just as important
True.
Kev - 08 May 2008 17:15 GMT > Quick question, are these any good? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Michael here are two going cheap nice radios too http://www.vhq07.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293
Kev
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