I'm sure some of us can remember when these shopper dockets first started.
Fuel was around 65c litre and if you spent $30 in the one transaction, you'd
get a 4cents litre saving, if you spent $60 in the one transaction, the
discount was 10cents litre. It appears those 10cents have disappeared for
good.
Now if 4 cents litre back then represented 6.1% then shouldn't, if the
margin was to be maintained the $1.50 litre should be carrying a discount of
9cents per litre. We are being ripped off again.
These Supermarkets have achieved what they set out to do and that was to
bury the small guy and then move into the Mr Bigs, Coles, Shell and Woolies,
Caltex.
Roger
Jeßus - 29 May 2008 05:46 GMT
> I'm sure some of us can remember when these shopper dockets first started.
> Fuel was around 65c litre and if you spent $30 in the one transaction, you'd
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> bury the small guy and then move into the Mr Bigs, Coles, Shell and Woolies,
> Caltex.
They were always a rort from what I could tell - at least in the case of
the Woolies/Caltex station, they were always amongst the dearest in the
area.
Besides, more often than not those stations have line-ups of people
waiting to fuel up, while the BP down the road has available bowsers.
I couldn't be f.cked waiting in a queue just for the sake of saving a
couple of bucks...
As you say - that 4 cents represents jack-sh.t these days.
the_dawggie - 29 May 2008 06:01 GMT
> > I'm sure some of us can remember when these shopper dockets first started.
> > Fuel was around 65c litre and if you spent $30 in the one transaction, you'd
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>
> As you say - that 4 cents represents jack-sh.t these days.
Exactly. Fuel today is $1.82.9 diesel and $1.63.9 petrol.
The four cents changed in the last week alone. Re-index
the saving to the fuel price otherwise you are not saving
a couple of bucks.
Just JT - 29 May 2008 09:31 GMT
> These Supermarkets have achieved what they set out to do and that was to
> bury the small guy and then move into the Mr Bigs, Coles, Shell and
> Woolies, Caltex.
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We don't shop at Coles or Woolsworths anymore. We shop at Franklin's for
groceries and at weekend markets for everything else.
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Coles.and.Woolies=expensive.
Klompmeester - 29 May 2008 10:45 GMT
> I'm sure some of us can remember when these shopper dockets first started.
> Fuel was around 65c litre and if you spent $30 in the one transaction,
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> bury the small guy and then move into the Mr Bigs, Coles, Shell and
> Woolies, Caltex.
The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if you
haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
Just JT - 29 May 2008 11:10 GMT
> The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if you
> haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
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Not necessarily. The Caltex close to where I live has about the same price
as Shell or the independent servo. However if I shop at Woolies, it's a
guarantee that I'll be ripped off.
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The.grocery.is.where.the.ripoff.happens.
Jeßus - 29 May 2008 11:19 GMT
>> The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if you
>> haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
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> as Shell or the independent servo. However if I shop at Woolies, it's a
> guarantee that I'll be ripped off.
I guess that depends on how you regard food.
Klompmeester - 29 May 2008 11:24 GMT
>>> The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if
>>> you haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
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>
> I guess that depends on how you regard food.
Foraging for insects is cheaper I suppose.
Jeßus - 29 May 2008 11:29 GMT
>>>> The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if
>>>> you haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
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>
> Foraging for insects is cheaper I suppose.
Or enjoying a nice Black & Gold 'gourmet' coffee... or whatever.
Klompmeester - 31 May 2008 05:07 GMT
>>>>> The dockets are a scam. If you have a docket you pay normal price, if
>>>>> you haven't you get ripped off by another 4c a litre.
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>
> Or enjoying a nice Black & Gold 'gourmet' coffee... or whatever.
LOL yeah, that too.
ChrisR1 - 29 May 2008 13:18 GMT
> I'm sure some of us can remember when these shopper dockets first started.
> Fuel was around 65c litre and if you spent $30 in the one transaction,
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>
> Roger
Off topic here....
I used to work in Category Management for a large australian food
manufacturer and dealt with Woolies and Coles buyers. I left that 5 years
ago and won't go back. The general public has no idea to what extent they
abuse their market power. Between them they have almost 80% of the grocery
market - no other grocery market in the world has this level of domination
by only 2 players.
On some lines their margin is well over 70%, and even on some staples they
don't like to go below 30-35%. Reality is they aim to make money off their
customers and their suppliers, and in doing so they will push prices up as
much as they can get away with, and squeeze manufacturers mercilessly.
Look at Woolies - despite claims of small margins they continue to announce
record profits. All that matters to them is their share price.
My advice, buy your staples at Aldi (they were very fair to deal with when I
was in the game, aim to support mid-tier producers that Woolies and Coles
squeeze and benchmark their products to market leading brands which they
then source from very reputable local sources), fruit and veg at markets and
only the speciality lines you need from the majors.
Chris